stinit
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:rolleys:
Dylan
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the most primordial? the one that the flinstones cam had for sure? Let's talk about milling 2.5 axes. we cut a profile with a tool radius 10. after we want to take the corners with a radius 4. how/what would you like to add to module 2.5 axes (I would say unchanged since 1996 do I think???????? ? ? ?
This is a primordial detail. One of those who's in the business knows you need. Shall we push ourselves a little further? wouldn't it be convenient to have a function (comoda,fast,intuitionable) to orientate the tool axis for 3+2 machining? here we have to create the tarts using the zpr or rotations of the views and, if you do not carefully, go out with absurd angles when an ordered and clean job would require, when possible, whole corners. Let's not get sped up like that in order to integrate the tool machine into the cam as the competitors do (topsolid,worknc,tebis, etc.) so as to see at least the head. .
I'll throw you another one? Do you know how a level strategy works? the levels are always normal to the tool axis. that implies that, if you do not pass with the tool and you have to tilt, or make the famous sign of the cross, calculate the z procedure and run with the head rotated or senno, you take the milling with a trend not consistent with the milling performed by z. It would be convenient in short a strategy "for levels" where the level plan was editable. I don't know. But with a practical example, I'm sure you'd understand what I'm saying...
Then there are all the other things already mentioned that I do not dilute myself to repeat. . .
What do you say, dear stinit??
dylan
stinit
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therefore. . .the most primordial? the one that the flinstones cam had for sure? Let's talk about milling 2.5 axes. we cut a profile with a tool radius 10. after we want to take the corners with a radius 4. how/what would you like to add to module 2.5 axes (I would say unchanged since 1996 do I think???????? ? ? ?
This is a primordial detail. One of those who's in the business knows you need. Shall we push ourselves a little further? wouldn't it be convenient to have a function (comoda,fast,intuitionable) to orientate the tool axis for 3+2 machining? here we have to create the tarts using the zpr or rotations of the views and, if you do not carefully, go out with absurd angles when an ordered and clean job would require, when possible, whole corners. Let's not get sped up like that in order to integrate the tool machine into the cam as the competitors do (topsolid,worknc,tebis, etc.) so as to see at least the head. .
I'll throw you another one? Do you know how a level strategy works? the levels are always normal to the tool axis. that implies that, if you do not pass with the tool and you have to tilt, or make the famous sign of the cross, calculate the z procedure and run with the head rotated or senno, you take the milling with a trend not consistent with the milling performed by z. It would be convenient in short a strategy "for levels" where the level plan was editable. I don't know. But with a practical example, I'm sure you'd understand what I'm saying...
Then there are all the other things already mentioned that I do not dilute myself to repeat. . .
What do you say, dear stinit??
dylan
for 2.5 axes... Effectively there are no major improvements from it...to say the truth having a discreet (
) experience in the milling machine on board with the selca the way to approach is conceptually similar. . .in the 3x milling there are still some gaps/efficiency:
1) in the roughing (q) a command to be able to tick to minimize the lifts quickly...in the 9 they added a parameter that keeps the tool low between one sitter and the other according to a distance set but if there are no external input points to the piece so it is worth carrying out the ramp at the point of end landing..no? :wink:
2)a somewhat more modern management of ramp revenue...other programs make you set everything and more...
3)Improving management of side increments, attacks and stains...sometimes even if you define an attack point the system begins where you want to... :frown:
4) in the finishing (q) which manages both the floors and the walls can not set the split angle between working floors and working walls above 70°...More
5)in the finish for levels (traditional) on the fittings between walls and floors sometimes the system generates a sympathetic sawdust movement...(they say it is the fault of the tolerance of triangolarization in the calculation phase),, sometimes it does it also with the finishings q
6) have not yet managed to give the possibility to set negative offsets to cylindrical cutters...(sometimes needed.. . )
7)Biblical computation workpieces with conical tools (the classic bulini)
etc.
Dylan
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hi stinit, removed ke we are grazing out topic with tacit consent of mod, it is a little of days I would like to answer but are always running.. I will answer from in front of the cuffs of the pc and nn from the keyboard of the nokia.. and point x point . I hope x other ke ki of duty fills our "consicles". At the bottom of us both those who make the trucile, those of the profession, our needs must be if not resolved at least considered.. I'd all benefit. us and them.. See you soon. I renew the invitation to spit out considerations, news, comments on the new version to whom I know! Hi.
. I hope x other ke ki of duty fills our "consicles". At the bottom of us both those who make the trucile, those of the profession, our needs must be if not resolved at least considered.. I'd all benefit. us and them.. See you soon. I renew the invitation to spit out considerations, news, comments on the new version to whom I know! Hi.stinit
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I don't know if these are...http://www.eng.tau.ac.il/~graphlab/html/cimatron/cimatron.htmhi stinit, removed ke we are grazing out topic with tacit consent of mod, it is a little of days I would like to answer but are always running.. I will answer from in front of the cuffs of the pc and nn from the keyboard of the nokia.. and point x point
o questi...
http://80.70.129.243/group/homepagegroup.aspx?folderid=3009〈=en
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Teto71
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on a Chinese site I found this pdf that seems a little more detailed about the news of the v10
greetings
greetings
stinit
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:finger:
...the "mid curve" was on top of it...then as by magic it disappeared in the elite and then reappear in the shoe express package.. .
...for the rest not bad...even if I expected to +...
monster
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Well we are always at the usual with the dropper!!!!
nothing more than others has less:frown:
stinit
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today I spoke with a technician of the summit... from us the release of version 10 is previewed for July/September (+ September that July... )
cimaguy
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...toh! to me the other yesterday they said:" in May".
Who's ready to bet?
Who's ready to bet?
stinit
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we say that the release date is also "strategic"...in the sense that in the perspective of switching to other software you have to communicate the end of the service contract 3/4 months before the end of the year...publicize new functions already 7-8 months before and release the version out of time useful to withdraw from the auction contract is a way like so many others to make your own industrial policy. . .especially if this relates to the big numbers (since the toptron is branched all over the world...and is also listed at nasdaq)
http://it.advfn.com/quotazioni/nasdaq/cimatron-limited-mm-cimt.html...we mean...they're just assumptions. . .
cimaguy
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Then.
yesterday I was at the fair in parma and I saw the 10.speaking with technicians
They told me that the release will be in July.
so wait for us in September
yesterday I was at the fair in parma and I saw the 10.speaking with technicians
They told me that the release will be in July.
so wait for us in September
stinit
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they make it suspirate this new version
Dylan
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... after 13 years, a summary of licenses and maintenances of about 75 thousand euros, comes out to me the new version with cam 2d identical to that of 13 years ago... from
stinit
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Leave it alone
... came to me to find a technician from the company who provides us the software...and we've talked a lot about...the point is that toptron is a system that integrates various tools...modelling. ..management assemblies. .. put on the table...cam etc. and at each update make small steps forward in all the tools that it has...but if the updates you consider them environment for certain environment is that they are a bit miserable...it is because the user type of toptron to have maximum benefits (both in terms of speed of execution of a given job both in terms of reduction of machine times) and fully appreciate the updates that developers put on the field to every relase as possible in tutte le sue parti...
It is clear that a software house that develops only the cam devotes all its efforts only to them...idem for those who develop only cad... :mixed:
Dylan
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...caro stinit... the speech does not hold, indeed it is very expensive.. Meanwhile, not everyone has all the packages. I think few have all but just all the packages (which would cost proportionally higher..). the company develops in israele, uses and russia. In short, it is a colossus that, as you said, is also listed nasdaq. wide shoulders, not 3 programmers in a cellar.. That said.. in 1998 there were repentum 100mhz,win98 and startacs. today win7, quadcore, iphone and galaxytab. the progress make them all.. and I still use the same cam 2d 13 years ago... I understand 2,3,4,5 years but 13 (or perhaps even more) excuse but it is not acceptable.. and it is not that there are no things to improve.. Sometimes I lose hours and to make a profile I have to copy the same curve 5 or 6 times trying all sorts of x command to make you manage to brake decently... What does the "global, local" command say to you in the management of antillision? prehistoric, dangerous. . .
ilmuffo
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By reading you, I think you both have different needs, and you both are right!
I think that who has to do only, or in a large way, cam, it is more appropriate that it does not turn to toptron, but to a more "vertical" product.
For example I have been using mastercams for some time (poco) and I find it really powerful, as well as being quite easy and intuitive for those who put our hands first.
I think that who has to do only, or in a large way, cam, it is more appropriate that it does not turn to toptron, but to a more "vertical" product.
For example I have been using mastercams for some time (poco) and I find it really powerful, as well as being quite easy and intuitive for those who put our hands first.
monster
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...mmmhh... I have some doubts....when I got a chance to try it I couldn't do a blessed "cioffa."...I'll be fined...boohh
ilmuffo
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for my experience, I can tell you that at the very first impact it may seem ostic, but then, just those 2 or 3 essential straights, a good customization (disposition) of the commands, and you have to ship!
great among other things the calculation of the paths in the background! :finger:
stinit
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I know it...it's a great cam...the only mole of that cam is that even in the x4 is anchored to a cad that knows about "ancient" and with which you must have to deal to manage surfaces,bords etc...even if you only walk...
regarding the calculation of the paths in the background summit 10 will be provided...the point is that to take seriously advantage of the possible calculation you will have to equip yourself with a w7 64bit... minimum mother card quadcore....and 8 g ram...