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help... horror interface creo 1.0

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Hello everyone, I hope not to open a post of a discussion already dealt with... I don't think so.

I'm evaluating the new creo 1.0, but I got a hit... :eek: I hate these new microsoft office style menus for the last generations and I see that even the ptc have made beautiful puppets.

Is there any way to get it to the classic interface?
 
I have no idea if I create has the possibility to change the icons in classical style (a bit like it happens on autocad), but by now all the softwarehouses that use microsoft gui are forced to adapt to this new style.

I on solid edge are 3 years now that I use it, just take a few days and then it becomes all natural as before.

only flaw is that they steal much more space on the work area
 
I haven't been able to play a lot yet, but I don't think we can go back to the old style.
But for what little I've tried I'm good, I have to believe myself, you can personalize them really at will.
a tip:

you can put them as small icons and hide the command label, you will see that you will make less km with the mouse from now on.
 
I do not use microsoft leashes:-) .... is an adaptation to fashions, which I do not like too.
 
maxopus said:
I do not use microsoft leashes:-) .... is an adaptation to fashions, which I do not like too.
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By the way. .
However it is only habit, the market now asks this.
when there were the menus (and pro/e was spartan) and it passed to the icons it was not okay, when from the icons you go to the ribbons (proe is back) and it is not okay. .
I mean, we're never happy. :-)
 
Parametric_Ozzy said:
By the way. .
However it is only habit, the market now asks this.
when there were the menus (and pro/e was spartan) and it passed to the icons it was not okay, when from the icons you go to the ribbons (proe is back) and it is not okay. .
I mean, we're never happy. :-)
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... and I who want it (the ribbon) in nx don't put it on me... :frown:
 
I can't believe it. it will also matter of habit but I stayed on the old photoshop just for this reason. Crazy. even rhinoceros that is much more modaiolo adopted these ribbons. Besides the screens grow in width and the menus grow in height instead?
 
user interface speech is complex.
...and it should be distinguished between middle-end and high end cad.
He's the one high end they make sense because they allow to automate processes... automating means "developing" of parametric templates that incorporate the knowledge of designers.
for this activity it is not important to the user interface, as the robustness of the parametric structures that you set up and that they must limit to the maximum the "manual intervention".

i "mid range" instead, iho, are absolutely interactive systems 100%: for these systems should be sent to have a simple and efficient user interface.
simple and efficient has a meaning that, according to me, transcends the aesthetics of the menu itself.
but why does interactivity have to be so complex? and search for the command and select the inputs... all uselessly complicated.
how it should be is a little complex to explain.
the only cad I saw very attentive to the user interface is space claim.
 
Delysid said:
I can't believe it. it will also matter of habit but I stayed on the old photoshop just for this reason. Crazy. even rhinoceros that is much more modaiolo adopted these ribbons. Besides the screens grow in width and the menus grow in height instead?
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you know the earth is not quite round but slightly crushed to the poles.. It will be for that which widen the screens and do not raise them:biggrin: But apart from the joke, it's just a matter of getting used to it. the important thing is that the program will work properly then for the controls some work bear and everything is resolved. ;)
 
In fact, it doesn't bother so much and it's true that you get used to it soon.
we say that ptc has a tendency to maintain equal interfaces for many years.
from wf2 to wf4, let's talk about at least 4 years, very few changes (what secondary menu a little less spread and more immediate).

with the wf5 integrated the ribbons in the drawing section and modified the interface of the settings menu.
They had already understood that the ribbon speech would be extended to everything else, and so it was.

at the end of the fair I care that the program maintains the stability, lightness and efficiency that has always distinguished it and until they stay away from the bookcases these problems should not have them.

a little sacrifice to adapt to the new interface you can endure.
 
they also make the restylings of the programs while maintaining the same functionality, a bit like cars, changing frames, setups but the motor at the end is that... in short they create work and reason to sell the new versions:biggrin:
 
cacciatorino said:
I have no doubt about it, but what's the need to change if the functionality is the same?
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I think they did it to organize all the commands on the top toolbar.
I think you do "less road" on the screen to reach the command.
When you are modeling, click on the ribbon and have all the features available.
before you had to go to the menu insert each time you had to access specific functions ... unless you customised the bar.
but you had to customize all the bars and you would be found with 100 buttons on the screen.

It's true that you could solve everything with keyboard macros.

I will give you a judgement when I use I create intensively, for the moment I installed it but I still go to wf5 and wf4.
 
cacciatorino said:
I have no doubt about it, but what's the need to change if the functionality is the same?
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hunting content everyone is not possible.
However, it is true that there are fewer kilometres with the mouse, some very specific tests have been carried out.
idem for the command bar and status bar (where messages appear), now it is not lower because even the view tends more towards that area and then you get tired less and at least you read the messages when there are errors, which before... Well, I don't know how many times I've been repeating it in the courses I've held.
 
Parametric_Ozzy said:
However, it is true that there are fewer kilometres with the mouse, some very specific tests have been carried out.
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Then we can see that the solid edge ribbon is very bad, the specific tests said otherwise. or that the precasing interface was exceptionally good (proposing for this).

However, I believe the ribbon interfaces are imposed by microsoft to have certifications on its operating systems, because instead, from the point of view of usability, they displease 95% of users (they admit that they get used to it, but still it was better before).

I personally find it absurd, as already pointed out, that in times of screens at 16/9 we dare to put the menus above instead of on the side, we do not all cartiers or laminators! ! ! !
 
16/9 screens, in my opinion, are not suitable for cad. I use 16/10 with resolution 1920x1200 and this is a good resolution to work with cad 16/10 screens are good for watching movies.
the upper ribbon at the end does not occupy much space and does not greatly reduce the visual area.
I used to, with office, prefer the old style, but now that I got used to, I wouldn't go back.
The only one with whom I find myself badly ribbon is autocad.
 
re_solidworks said:
16/9 screens, in my opinion, are not suitable for cad. I use 16/10 with resolution 1920x1200 and this is a good resolution to work with cad 16/10 screens are good for watching movies.
the upper ribbon at the end does not occupy much space and does not greatly reduce the visual area.
I used to, with office, prefer the old style, but now that I got used to, I wouldn't go back.
The only one with whom I find myself badly ribbon is autocad.
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I don't know what version of autocad you have, but on the 2009 lt I have the possibility to return to the old interface, on the lower right there is a gear-shaped command (passage from one work area to another) and I have the option to choose whether to use the ribbon version or the classic.
 
re_solidworks said:
the upper ribbon at the end does not occupy much space and does not greatly reduce the visual area.
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you have the ribbon of solidworks, which is a ribbon very well masked by old menu.

You can make it so small that it's like old menus. I'd show you the solid edge ribbon on a 1280x1024 screen, which is perfectly suitable for swx.
 

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