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array rettangolare

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hello to all

I noticed that in multibody modeling nx7.5 does not create repetitions (arrays), for example an extrusion, it does only in boolean mode of union or subtraction, but if you try to make an array of an extrusion in "no" mode, the array fails despite preview it seems that the software accepts
input.
I have tried various situations but always repeats the same inconvenience.
I wanted to know if it's normal and how you can possibly remedy this.

Thank you.
 
alex64 said:
hello to all

I noticed that in multibody modeling nx7.5 does not create repetitions (arrays), for example an extrusion, it does only in boolean mode of union or subtraction, but if you try to make an array of an extrusion in "no" mode, the array fails despite preview it seems that the software accepts
input.
I have tried various situations but always repeats the same inconvenience.
I wanted to know if it's normal and how you can possibly remedy this.

Thank you.
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you have already answered yourself: it does only in Boolean mode.
 
Hello

I would not want to create a controversy with the historical users of nx, but known a certain redundancy of similar commands in the various menus, see precisely the various arrays, replica geometry, transforms etc.
In my opinion it would be perhaps more right to maintain and develop commands of greater use and practicality by eliminating those that generate non-complete results, such as the rectangular or polar array.
not that this disorders particularly, being able to choose which to use, but it would only be to streamline and reorder the software.
 
I think it's a matter of " habit"
who is accustomed to using a command hardly accepts of good degree to pass to the higher release if this has disappeared in favor of a new more performing version, there are numerous testimonies of technical studies that still use on nx8 the drilling command preceding nx5.
I think that having many commands, sometimes redundant as alex says, it's better than having them.
rather, with a clever use of roules a user configures the system as best he believes for his use leaving the desk colleague the possibility to work with other icons.
I don't think there's much to scandalize one uses the old command and in the meantime learns the new one.

Obviously this is my deduction, I do not know exactly in siemens if they use a different motivation to leave them, however to me they have never bothered.
 
IPdesign said:
I think it's a matter of " habit"
who is accustomed to using a command hardly accepts of good degree to pass to the higher release if this has disappeared in favor of a new more performing version, there are numerous testimonies of technical studies that still use on nx8 the drilling command preceding nx5.
I think that having many commands, sometimes redundant as alex says, it's better than having them.
rather, with a clever use of roules a user configures the system as best he believes for his use leaving the desk colleague the possibility to work with other icons.
I don't think there's much to scandalize one uses the old command and in the meantime learns the new one.

Obviously this is my deduction, I do not know exactly in siemens if they use a different motivation to leave them, however to me they have never bothered.
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That's what I'm talking about.
 
you can do the array without using the boolean only:
example:
- create a block
- select the "block" feature from the part navigator, press button dx mouse selections "feature group"
- and then do your array

Good job:
 
I also add that for me it is a more convenient way to use this type of solution because I can add other operations such as fittings, shapes, bevels etc...
 
alex64 said:
hello to all

I noticed that in multibody modeling nx7.5 does not create repetitions (arrays), for example an extrusion, it does only in boolean mode of union or subtraction, but if you try to make an array of an extrusion in "no" mode, the array fails despite preview it seems that the software accepts
input.
I have tried various situations but always repeats the same inconvenience.
I wanted to know if it's normal and how you can possibly remedy this.

Thank you.
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there is also "instance geometry" which is cute.
 
alex64 said:
Hello

I would not want to create a controversy with the historical users of nx, but known a certain redundancy of similar commands in the various menus, see precisely the various arrays, replica geometry, transforms etc.
In my opinion it would be perhaps more right to maintain and develop commands of greater use and practicality by eliminating those that generate non-complete results, such as the rectangular or polar array.
not that this disorders particularly, being able to choose which to use, but it would only be to streamline and reorder the software.
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the reason is the following.
when siemens plm decides to implement a new feature, see the new holes of nx5 or the new repetitions of nx8, maintains their visibility and therefore use, for some releases, no more than 2,, to give so, under the advice of the assistance, to get used to using the new commands.
the face pattern, more performing, intuitive and dynamic than the arrays, is born with st, but nx leaves them visible both, to give way to users to get used to.
with nx8, these are gone, replaced by the fantastic 'pattern feature'.
sincere I prefer new holes and new patterns.
 
alex64 said:
Hello

I would not want to create a controversy with the historical users of nx, but known a certain redundancy of similar commands in the various menus, see precisely the various arrays, replica geometry, transforms etc.
In my opinion it would be perhaps more right to maintain and develop commands of greater use and practicality by eliminating those that generate non-complete results, such as the rectangular or polar array.
not that this disorders particularly, being able to choose which to use, but it would only be to streamline and reorder the software.
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Bye to all,

I find very interesting the topic posted by alex64. yesterday I discussed it with users and almost put our hands on us (of course:smile:).
the reason for the contest was in general about the use of the commands of the copy associative menu and in particular the 'old' array, the mirror features and the face pattern.
in the images that place are highlighted some aspects that I would like to discuss:

image 2 key arrays of a pad, in that position it is not possible to replicate it with the face pattern (I have other examples of more serious things in which you are in that situation).
3 mirror features image: the result is antisymmetrical (logical for how nx works but not intuitive for those who apply it).

Utente NX said:
the reason is the following.
when siemens plm decides to implement a new feature, see the new holes of nx5 or the new repetitions of nx8, maintains their visibility and therefore use, for some releases, no more than 2,, to give so, under the advice of the assistance, to get used to using the new commands.
the face pattern, more performing, intuitive and dynamic than the arrays, is born with st, but nx leaves them visible both, to give way to users to get used to.
with nx8, these are gone, replaced by the fantastic 'pattern feature'.
sincere I prefer new holes and new patterns.
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the face pattern is one of the oldest commands of nx, in image 1 you can see the nx4 screen.
I have not yet used the 'pattern feature' of 8, if you have used it which, according to you, are the strengths of this command?

Hello everyone
 

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ceschi1959 said:
Bye to all,

I find very interesting the topic posted by alex64. yesterday I discussed it with users and almost put our hands on us (of course:smile:).
the reason for the contest was in general about the use of the commands of the copy associative menu and in particular the 'old' array, the mirror features and the face pattern.
in the images that place are highlighted some aspects that I would like to discuss:

image 2 key arrays of a pad, in that position it is not possible to replicate it with the face pattern (I have other examples of more serious things in which you are in that situation).
3 mirror features image: the result is antisymmetrical (logical for how nx works but not intuitive for those who apply it).




the face pattern is one of the oldest commands of nx, in image 1 you can see the nx4 screen.
I have not yet used the 'pattern feature' of 8, if you have used it which, according to you, are the strengths of this command?

Hello everyone
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Also the hole command is old, but has nothing to do with the pre-nx5.
the fact that it is called the same way, does not mean that at the software level it is the same.
the pattern is part of the st development module.

the new feature pattern has nothing to do with all the pregress of nx8.
It's been rewritten and I haven't found any limits at the moment.
the limits you think you have in nx7.5, with the 8 will only be a bad memory.

the neo of 8 is that they did not make the component pattern official in the environment together.

was present as a command in the beta, I asked why it didn't work and they told me that involuntarily the command remained visible, but that it was in phase of completion of development and testing and that with so much probability it would not be made available with the 8, but with 8.5.
 
Utente NX said:
Also the hole command is old, but has nothing to do with the pre-nx5.
the fact that it is called the same way, does not mean that at the software level it is the same.
the pattern is part of the st development module.

the new feature pattern has nothing to do with all the pregress of nx8.
It's been rewritten and I haven't found any limits at the moment.
the limits you think you have in nx7.5, with the 8 will only be a bad memory.

the neo of 8 is that they did not make the component pattern official in the environment together.

was present as a command in the beta, I asked why it didn't work and they told me that involuntarily the command remained visible, but that it was in phase of completion of development and testing and that with so much probability it would not be made available with the 8, but with 8.5.
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So, 8.5?
I was hoping for 8.0.1. :frown:
 
Utente NX said:
I was told by major release and I wrote 8.5.

I was hoping too. .
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it happened that some news, present in the betas, have been moved to the mr...
so, by memory:
- dynamic extrusion
- the new holes
- synchronous technology v1

... we also hope for component arrays... even if they told you "major", major will be...
Who told you? JB?
 
Utente NX said:
And... his...
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today I have made a call with the pm of modeling and assembly for other issues and asked specific question. . .
the component patterning was in the beta with forecast to be entered in the 8.0.1 end of January.
instead it will probably be moved forward (from voice I think that 8.5 is a hope... Probably 9).
There's a huge assembly project that I think sucked all the resources.
confirmed instead in nx8.0.1 the part module. I don't know if you tried it in the beta, if there was...
 
I press that the new array, my opinion, is a great command that allows you to satisfy the most demanding people.
I did a test and:
- I created an extrusion with a sketch inside it (e.g. I did a rectangle)
-pattern feature and I choose the simplest function i.e. repeating axis x n times and same thing per axis y
-published again the feature pattern command and choose to change one of the many repetitions by changing the dimensional value of the sketch to obtain dimensional variables between the repetitions starting from a "source"
- recurred to change again the size of the rectangle modified previously and here I found a little problem because there is no way to change the values.
I also tried, go into expressions and change to "eat" the value but nienete to do.
Can someone tell me if he found the problem and solved it or can you tell me where I'm wrong?

for the rest it seemed quite stable and especially powerful
 

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