that 3d choose?

[cacciatorino]

I invite everyone to stay on the technician and to avoid "spiritous" or irrident comments.

Otherwise I have to close the discussion as I have to attend a working meeting.

Say hi.

 

[Parametric_Ozzy]

apart from that I don't understand why you show a sample of version 7 if it's now 11, but as an example I think it's pretty weak, eh...
In the meantime, you should explain from what the extradox and intradox profiles of each section are driven, because from that 2d you can see two quotas on the cross and (but I might be wrong because the resolution of the image is insufficient) the edge of attack is to live edge which has no relevance with the reality of a secular wing.
and the perimeter line that connects the various profiles of the shovel, and that in reality is not on a plane, how is it used by model 3d?

I would also like to see the analysis of the curvature of that profile.:smile:
how are curves handled in the profile?
Do you import the coordinates of the points from external programs or write about the parametric equations inside?
How can I optimize them? Is there a best fittings procedure to get the best curves according to the calculation of polynomial regression of the desired order? If you like?
the realization of the connection between concave and convex profile how is performed?

greetings

 

[maxopus]

I would also like to see the analysis of the curvature of that profile.:smile:
how are curves handled in the profile?
Do you import the coordinates of the points from external programs or write about the parametric equations inside?
How can I optimize them? Is there a best fittings procedure to get the best curves according to the calculation of polynomial regression of the desired order? If you like?
the realization of the connection between concave and convex profile how is performed?

greetings

that's a propeller, when you've pulled over a few sections, you're fine, that's what transitions are between one section and the other, or if there are flex points between sections.
Is it true, exa, that it will never be a propeller, five minutes, and it comes up on its own.
and then the truncated terminal part is fantastic, it seems output from the manual of the young marmots.
It's time for the kids to get rid of... it's okay, but after a while, patience runs away.

 

[Parametric_Ozzy]

that's a propeller, when you've pulled over a few sections, you're fine, that's what transitions are between one section and the other, or if there are flex points between sections.
Is it true, exa, that it will never be a propeller, five minutes, and it comes up on its own.
and then the truncated terminal part is fantastic, it seems output from the manual of the young marmots.
It's time for the kids to get rid of... it's okay, but after a while, patience runs away.

I speak in general, turbine blades...

 

[cacciatorino]

that's a propeller, when you've pulled over a few sections, you're fine, that's what transitions are between one section and the other, or if there are flex points between sections.
.

I speak in general, turbine blades...

Is a low-resolution image enough to understand that model is hurt because the cad is unable to generate it?

You should at least use a doubtful formula, since there is no evidence to say if that pattern is done well or bad.

for now I close the discussion, I reopen it in the afternoon.

 

[MauroM]

But nobody breaks a spear for inventor? to what I have drawn from the various posts, all tendentially indicate me sw... why, probably why inventor is not so known? ....

I think we will eventually choose sw...

but did you choose sw only because no one intervened in favor of inv?

 

[Enzolog]

I would like to resume this discussion, because I personally care.
I would like to make the boss understand here in the company that our type of work with an autocad mech 2009 obviously is no longer as competitive as it once is as time of realization, as well as as quality of the work itself.
I would come immediately to the therefore:

- provided that I have not had any training in this regard and all I have learned, I have learned it alone with trial versions and partly here by you reading often;

- premise the fact that 18 years of three-dimensional also pushed to entire plants with unmanageable files from the dimensions of 50-60 mb... with autocad (from r13) help a little to draw more or less sliding with the parametrics:

I would like to better understand how these software behaves
(catea, nx, pro-e/creo...) in my specific case, because until the single piece/i modeled/i or small/i together/i we are, but with whole plants I do not know how to manage everything since we build everything: from the single machine to the supporting structure, which often counts at least 4 floors.
if you want to place a layout of a plant to analyze it.
for now place the simplest element:
The filter...

 

[Parametric_Ozzy]

I would like to resume this discussion, because I personally care.
I would like to make the boss understand here in the company that our type of work with an autocad mech 2009 obviously is no longer as competitive as it once is as time of realization, as well as as quality of the work itself.
I would come immediately to the therefore:

- provided that I have not had any training in this regard and all I have learned, I have learned it alone with trial versions and partly here by you reading often;

- premise the fact that 18 years of three-dimensional also pushed to entire plants with unmanageable files from the dimensions of 50-60 mb... with autocad (from r13) help a little to draw more or less sliding with the parametrics:

I would like to better understand how these software behaves
(catea, nx, pro-e/creo...) in my specific case, because until the single piece/i modeled/i or small/i together/i we are, but with whole plants I do not know how to manage everything since we build everything: from the single machine to the supporting structure, which often counts at least 4 floors.
if you want to place a layout of a plant to analyze it.
for now place the simplest element:
The filter...

autocad forget and approach methodology because if you go to the parameters (any of these mentioned) is completely different, especially in plants similar to that posted.
here in addition to a good cad it takes a good construction methodology and a clean management through skeletons that automates all your changes in the interface components, otherwise you should retouch each time the components one by one even if you have a parametric.
is the top/down mode!

 

[re_solidworks]

autocad forget and approach methodology because if you go to the parameters (any of these mentioned) is completely different, especially in plants similar to that posted.
here in addition to a good cad it takes a good construction methodology and a clean management through skeletons that automates all your changes in the interface components, otherwise you should retouch each time the components one by one even if you have a parametric.
is the top/down mode!

quoto ozzy. This means that, regardless of the cad you choose, you need a lot of familiarity in model management and to get it you need training and practice.
other point: I have seen that among the various you have also cited catia. Do you know that at cost is a higher aptitude than proes? What budget do you have? How many licenses?

 

[Enzolog]

quoto ozzy. This means that, regardless of the cad you choose, you need a lot of familiarity in model management and to get it you need training and practice.
other point: I have seen that among the various you have also cited catia. Do you know that at cost is a higher aptitude than proes? What budget do you have? How many licenses?

I realize the costs of a catia or nx and I am aware of it (I looked at wiki where there is a standard license on 15000euro), but as I am the only designer here and therefore a single license, I would like something really powerful both on the 3d, and on the management of the tide of files that now are all subdivided into folders from me and I am really tired of redesigning all the pieces and their respective 6 views
I don't know the budget that my owner has or better know that in this period of crisis he won't want to pay a euro, but I want to start stepping up anyway.

 

[maxopus]

with less than 15000 euros, to list 12780 - substantial discount for new customers, take also the advanced assembly of creo and go as a purple

 

[ShareMind]

gifted... .I find it nice that a moderator makes a real commercial offer in the forum that moderates, addressing a user who asks for technical advice on products.
that a post like this filled 16 pages, mostly occupied by various hungry operators in the industry, disguised as eager modelling enthusiasts to provide Disinterested tips.
only the order form is missing.
that bitterness. these things happened in Bulgarian at the time of the regime.

greetings, author of topic. you are in good hands, indeed excuse, griffia.

 

[Enzolog]

gifted... .I find it nice that a moderator makes a real commercial offer in the forum that moderates, addressing a user who asks for technical advice on products.
that a post like this filled 16 pages, mostly occupied by various hungry operators in the industry, disguised as eager modelling enthusiasts to provide Disinterested tips.
only the order form is missing.
that bitterness. these things happened in Bulgarian at the time of the regime.

greetings, author of topic. you are in good hands, indeed excuse, griffia.

No, but I took this subject in my hand 4 posts just to not open another equal, then with max we had already heard about it so no problem :finger:
As for a practical example, do we want to try on a system already made?

 

[re_solidworks]

I realize the costs of a catia or nx and I am aware of it (I looked at wiki where there is a standard license on 15000euro), but as I am the only designer here and therefore a single license, I would like something really powerful both on the 3d, and on the management of the tide of files that now are all subdivided into folders from me and I am really tired of redesigning all the pieces and their respective 6 views
I don't know the budget that my owner has or better know that in this period of crisis he won't want to pay a euro, but I want to start stepping up anyway.

I don't know about ne catia ne nx, surely proe is very light in resource management, while swx is the lightest among the mid albeit a little heavier than creo.
whatever the cad you will choose what will count more than anything to manage your plants will be the working method that will guarantee you project management.
no cad lets you easily open and move an asm of 300,000 pieces, but an account is open and another is manage it.
here you need to get involved in various issues including modeling as simple as possible and managing simplified axiemic configurations.
These two words are the summary of a methodical that assimilates in a lot of time.
For example I have seen people plant swx with asm of 1000 components, while I turned axioms of 10,000 already with a repentum 3 in 2001.
use method, with swx, with proes, with all the cads you want.
try to choose the tool well, the dealer who will train you and keep you in the training budget, because otherwise you will find yourself having to justify the owner that you can't get to it.

 

[re_solidworks]

gifted... .I find it nice that a moderator makes a real commercial offer in the forum that moderates, addressing a user who asks for technical advice on products.
that a post like this filled 16 pages, mostly occupied by various hungry operators in the industry, disguised as eager modelling enthusiasts to provide Disinterested tips.
only the order form is missing.
that bitterness. these things happened in Bulgarian at the time of the regime.

greetings, author of topic. you are in good hands, indeed excuse, griffia.

as I have already said I do design and not sales, the same does maxopus. we both know the costs of the solutions we use as we have regularly purchased them and are updated on the lists. For example, yesterday I treated the purchase of another 2 licenses, so I know the prices.
If that doesn't convince you... we'll have a reason, you gave your opinion and now we're all happy to be informed.

compliments for the surgery.

 

[Enzolog]

I don't know about ne catia ne nx, surely proe is very light in resource management, while swx is the lightest among the mid albeit a little heavier than creo.
whatever the cad you will choose what will count more than anything to manage your plants will be the working method that will guarantee you project management.
no cad lets you easily open and move an asm of 300,000 pieces, but an account is open and another is manage it.
here you need to get involved in various issues including modeling as simple as possible and managing simplified axiemic configurations.
These two words are the summary of a methodical that assimilates in a lot of time.
For example I have seen people plant swx with asm of 1000 components, while I turned axioms of 10,000 already with a repentum 3 in 2001.
use method, with swx, with proes, with all the cads you want.
try to choose the tool well, the dealer who will train you and keep you in the training budget, because otherwise you will find yourself having to justify the owner that you can't get to it.

I tell you in full.
regarding the management of the file I could hold a file of 50-60mb (a whole plant) in autocad 2000 imagines.. .
Unlike, I, instead, among the three listed, do not know only pro-e, used both catia and nx in 2 design studies one of which was an internship in flipper (year 2000). . .

the difference was in the fact of having to draw a single piece (like a mirror, a bumper) and not many pieces that had to form a set (at least that was my job).
already the fact of drawing a piece of 3d sheet metal, from which I could with few movements put on the table the various views and extrapolate me the dxf, would be paradisiac, let alone this method reported to an entire plant. . .
Because what I see is no more than the classic folders, right?

 

[maxopus]

gifted... .I find it nice that a moderator makes a real commercial offer in the forum that moderates, addressing a user who asks for technical advice on products.
that a post like this filled 16 pages, mostly occupied by various hungry operators in the industry, disguised as eager modelling enthusiasts to provide Disinterested tips.
only the order form is missing.
that bitterness. these things happened in Bulgarian at the time of the regime.

greetings, author of topic. you are in good hands, indeed excuse, griffia.

dictated by you this thing makes you laugh for several reasons and your malafede and disinformation is inversely proportional to your sympathy.

1) you are a dealer and you are only here to sell your products;
2) I am not a dealer, I have never procacciato the sale of one and only one license, the only thing I did last month (after almost 6 years) was to put in contact a company with my var for updating a maintenance and in front of this I do not take money, I simply have a good relationship with my software provider. If I know that a company needs a product demo, I'll give him the contact, if he knows that a company needs a design studio, please return.
3) I feel like recommending I create people simply because I found myself very well and I feel it a great tool for working for so many industrial areas, this is one of those and the fact that I know the price is the secret of flea, half of the users of this forum know the prices of most existing mcads on the market.

the problem if anything is another and it is better to survive in this place.
Do me a courtesy, as you are as nice as I am for you, try to avoid me, I have no intention of opening discussions or polemics with people of your "caliber".

 

[re_solidworks]

I tell you in full.
regarding the management of the file I could hold a file of 50-60mb (a whole plant) in autocad 2000 imagines.. .
Unlike, I, instead, among the three listed, do not know only pro-e, used both catia and nx in 2 design studies one of which was an internship in flipper (year 2000). . .

the difference was in the fact of having to draw a single piece (like a mirror, a bumper) and not many pieces that had to form a set (at least that was my job).
already the fact of drawing a piece of 3d sheet metal, from which I could with few movements put on the table the various views and extrapolate me the dxf, would be paradisiac, let alone this method reported to an entire plant. . .
Because what I see is no more than the classic folders, right?

depends on how you want to set the job. apart from catia that in v6 version should have deleted classical storage in files, with other cad you can manage files on disk or vault depending on the solutions and depending on whether or not you implement a pdm/plm.
said this if you make big plants and want not to spend more time in creating manual (not always right) a pdm would help you and would ease you in archiving.
what you need is not as much as storing files, but how to model quickly and lightly for the cad.

 

[Enzolog]

depends on how you want to set the job. apart from catia that in v6 version should have deleted classical storage in files, with other cad you can manage files on disk or vault depending on the solutions and depending on whether or not you implement a pdm/plm.
said this if you make big plants and want not to spend more time in creating manual (not always right) a pdm would help you and would ease you in archiving.
what you need is not as much as storing files, but how to model quickly and lightly for the cad.

I don't know if it's right, but I'm just the user.
- three-dimensional demonstration of all parts, in order to have a direct control over interference (the opposite of what I do now that the 3d I do after the 2d);
-take the single part in 3d and develop the table setting by assigning it the coding and quating;
-take the single part in 3d and extract the dxf automatically without having to redesign in 2d through measurements avoiding errors;
-take the dxf and develop the table of the same;
-create assembly of the individual machines and develop me at the table;
-create assembly of more machines to develop pipe fittings and hoppers.
-explore me so the various fittings and create the relative parts with table setting.

if I change a part I can automatically update the boards and dxfs?
big way and in crude words this

 

[sampom]

...if I change a part I can automatically update the boards and dxfs?

The boards yes, the dxf no!
Here, but is this the passage that I do not understand; why go compulsory to the dxf?? What do you need? I (but I think a little everyone) converts to vector 2d only to send the "sagomes" to laser cutting.
2d constructive tables quoted and "finished to perfection" you do them directly from cad 3d in a absolutely parametric way.
the beauty of these programs is that the 2d "classic" you forget it.. if I have to remake it all is time and money lost unnecessarily, not to count the cerebral agrovigliamento that pursues it.

greetings
Mar