year 2013

[Anchorage]

as from title I open this discussion
for any future indiscretions and comments ....

(of course always that maya did not take us!
and maybe autodesk in prey to a pessimistic moment
decided in advance not to work on it even above:smile

Hi.

 

[Tristan]

no pessimism...just for a few months I've been testing the beta

 

[Erikilrosso]

tristan, is it worth investing 1100 € + VAT for upgrade? with the little or no work around there is to reflect. What do you think?:frown:

 

[Tristan]

1100 is the renewal of the sub of the bds if I do not err... I would make this reasoning: If I do not renew the sub and maybe next year jumps out the pussy I absolutely need, I have to pay the beauty of 5000 euros to upgrade. ..mhm... and 1100 euros to maintain 10 software (100 euros each) does not seem to me great figure. at least for me, I use autocad, rac, 3ds max design, showcase and sketchbook. If you only use autocad and rac then maybe you're wrong to switch to bds.
Anyway, in revit 2013 there are some nice news of which a wait for years!

 

[diki]

so you die of curiosity. . .

 

[roberto 2011]

...however, in revit 2013 there are some nice news of which a wait for years!

have given the possibility to consolidate the phases?

have finally given body to the stairs and it is finally possible to make the stairs to snail?

Now it is possible to have the ground as Christ commands... ?

Finally the joints, pillars and beams do not blaspheme anymore?

now the press is very fast and you no longer need to pass for pdf?

I die from curiosity!!! :tongue::biggrin:

 

[Tristan]

have given the possibility to consolidate the phases?

What do you mean "consolidate"?

have finally given body to the stairs and it is finally possible to make the stairs to snail?

Fire! Fire! Fire!

Now it is possible to have the ground as Christ commands... ?

this imo will never...at least until civil3d exists

Finally the joints, pillars and beams do not blaspheme anymore?

for this there is structure (roberto do not send me to that country!)

now the press is very fast and you no longer need to pass for pdf?

Well, here's the hardware. is not a problem only of revit

 

[roberto 2011]

What do you mean "consolidate"?

we country burini geometrellis have most of the times to do with single buildings, some call them cottages :biggrin: which undergo various construction procedures, type 1) condense; 2) restructuring; 3) extension; 4) variant on enlargement..... with revit I must always take behind all the building from the initial point 1. It would be appropriate, however, that at point 4 it only has the building of point 3 (and ovviamnente of the same last point 4).

for this there is structure (roberto do not send me to that country!)

no, I do not want to send anyone to that country, but no one can claim that the work of a poor professional free Christ, = self-employed worker without a caxxo of guardians and exposed to all the intemperies of the planet: give all your gain to a softhouse for 10 kaiser programs.

of the series: if 1000 euros of sub for autocad and revit seem still few....

for the necessary hardware I insert an image to which I add the picture video card 1.800 (which costs as much as a whole pc).

what else should we buy to pull out a print 60 cm high and 200 cm long???

 

[alpearchitetto]

Dearest Tristan I feel sad at the thought of paying 1100 euros again when most "colleges" use crakatte and working versions and tell me that I am a pirla to pay autodesk
I go to public offices and what do I hear? but we don't have money and use pi-ra-ta-te versions?
I just hope it's worth it rac 2013 :frown:

 

[Tristan]

carissimo tristan I feel sad at the thought of paying even 1100 euros when most "colleges" uses crakatte versions. . .

http://www.autodesk.it/adsk/servlet/index?siteid=457036&id=10167796

:mixed:

 

[alpearchitetto]

thanks tristan....but what I put to make rhombus:wink: However, I will keep in mind.

 

[Tristan]

Well, if I regularly pay the licenses (and taxes :biggrin and I knew of a colleague, who might even be on my balls, who with software not fired makes me competition would turn me vortexously! Not you? ?

 

[Tristan]

...that then said among us could also be unfair competition and so you could ask for damages to those who use illegal software.

 

[gfrank]

... already, as well as when a sw contains bugs and what else, should answer the producer... .
instead, who knows why, the producer does not answer, in any case....


... not to mention the crashes...


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[roberto 2011]

understandable.

we are in a field that if you give little, a small possibility of damages would arise millions of causes.. .

It is a word to establish responsibility for any damages!

If I were the s.h. I would do the same. On the other hand if you do not want to take risks you can always use the old tecnigraph with the drawing table....:tongue:

the problem is only that for them the crisis does not exist. Most invoices 30-50% less but self-desk gentlemen can't care less...

the other day I had news that in Tuscany it is all closed. there is no shadow of a customer in the accommodation activities. stuff to make your skin happen as they worked so far... .

Mah, hopefully... I'm fine without revit!

 

[gfrank]

....
Mah, hopefully... I'm fine without revit!

... I was not referring to revit in particular, but to all sh ....

 

[Anchorage]

I opened a post for revit news 2013
but it was not my intention to create questions
economic, legal, financial or ethical: eek: ....

if you feel it appropriate, change the title as well

p.s. thanks to tristan for what he could have guessed

 

[Tristan]

janfranco, you're totally right! and you're told by someone who works for a software house (as if I bought a panda and the fiat made me sign a card that takes it from all responsibility in case the steering doesn't work!) but otherwise, as the good roberto says, we're just the tecnigraph.

 

[diki]

my good portable tecnigraph ... the beauty of a beautiful hand design is an timeless charm

 

[diki]

yesterday I was with the cell and writing a lot was complicated.

is mainly the autodesk policy that is going to me a little on the ....

the study where I work to buy revit not in subs, however with regular license, as well as 2 autocad 2007 that they carry behind from a while...

already the fact of having a regular license and not downloading updates available in subs like italian content pack etc... It just pisses me off. .

as if bought windows seven, microsoft tells me to access windows update pay me in canone..... I would answer..... ok istallo ubuntu

then this fashion of a new version every year... but you can buy a license (with what costs) and find it already old 1 year later.

to study not wanting sw pirate and forbidden taxally to install anything, we went to almost all free software libreoffice, gimp, etc... only father primus and mother autodesk.

personally I disagree, but they are evaluating zwcad, then send an email file and they answer you 80% of the time to postpone it with a version below the old 2007 with here we work.