material allocation to a set

[calacc]

Good morning, guys!

a curiosity is coming up in the morning: I shaped a welded compound as a whole, they are dishes to understand us created also as subassieme_specchio to speed up its creation. I am now doing a drw where I carry out the table of the complete welded compound, is there a way to assign the material to all the assemblies so that even the word on the cartilage appears?
by clicking the template_property makes me add materials but the assign option is not present. Could you give me a hint?

Thank you in advance

 

[tartufon80]

............ I modeled a welded compound as a whole, they are dishes to understand us created also as subassieme_specchio to speed up its creation.......... .

Hi, I'm sorry, but I don't understand. did you realize feature in assembly environment?

 

[calacc]

no, they are parts created in assembly environment and also grouped into subaxis. what I want to do is to associate a material with all the welded axieme, since the table I make of the compound and not of the individual parts.

 

[tartufon80]

I have never worked to create parts in assembly environment, so I can't advise you on this, but what I know is that you can't assign material to a set. but I could be denied by someone.
If I don't remember there was a discussion where ozzy hinted at this consideration......I see if I find it, maybe there's something else that can help you!


Maybe I remembered bad: I found only This is what, but we only talk about the fact that it is not possible to add material in assembly environment... .

 

[calacc]

the guide says on purpose that it is not possible to assign the material to the model in the environment together.
but it does not say that you cannot give an indication of material to a set. . .

 

[tartufon80]

Well, if it's just on this set that you have to use this indication, I'd think I'd create an ad hoc parameter that I would call back on the drw.

 

[calacc]

Well, if it's just on this set that you have to use this indication, I'd think I'd create an ad hoc parameter that I would call back on the drw.

Well, for the moment I've already done this: the problem is that a string-type parameter that reads "s235jr_en10027-1" tells me nothing about the numerical parameters inherent in the assignment of the material such as density, appearance etc... It's just a writing.

 

[nicksoft]

I have not understood what you want to get; if you want the weight of the axieme there are reports that calculate the weights of the components; if you want a summary of the materials in drawing, you have to use a repeat region in a table, and so on

 

[Parametric_Ozzy]

I don't know if I understood right either, but if you said that you created a part at the level of together I think that you used an empty model, so not a part template with all the materials set in it, if when you create the part in mode together you use a classic start_part you should be able to assign any material, otherwise you have to upload them every time, is my thought correct or am I smoking a baobab? :

 

[DANI-3D]

Hello, everyone.
In similar cases I do so:

I assign the material to the individual composed to have all the right physical characteristics, weight, volume density etc., I do not think that there is the possibility to assign the material to the individual details from the set.

In the whole I create a material_ass parameter that recalls the material parameter of the first compound welded, in this way if change type of material of the first component, the parameter of the material of the assembly is updated. this only works if all the details have the same type of material as the first component.
I hope I've been clear.

 

[Parametric_Ozzy]

Hello, everyone.
In similar cases I do so:

I assign the material to the individual composed to have all the right physical characteristics, weight, volume density etc., I do not think that there is the possibility to assign the material to the individual details from the set.

In the whole I create a material_ass parameter that recalls the material parameter of the first compound welded, in this way if change type of material of the first component, the parameter of the material of the assembly is updated. this only works if all the details have the same type of material as the first component.
I hope I've been clear.

you can but you have to pass by modelcheck...

 

[DANI-3D]

you can but you have to pass by modelcheck...

I don't know how much it can be. Maybe if the components are so many.

 

[Parametric_Ozzy]

I don't know how much it can be. Maybe if the components are so many.

once configured and understood properly it always suits! :wink:

 

[DANI-3D]

Unfortunately, it is a subject I have never dealt with with with with conviction, but I am interested and I hope to be able to study it as soon as possible, compatibly with the little free time.

 

[Parametric_Ozzy]

Well of course I understand, but considering that it is under the basic license it is a "investment" that is definitely worth doing, because it can solve a lot of recurring, recurring,noious problems.
I know that it is not obvious to approach it, to help from someone uses half the time and you understand all its vast facets.:finger:

 

[DANI-3D]

hi ozzy, I take advantage of this discussion to ask you a question:
with modelcheck how to manage the changes ? we have assigned the material to the details starting from the set, as described above, if later the main parameter that identifies the material, automatically update the characteristics of the details, simply regenerating, or you need to repeat the modelcheck process.
I would be grateful if you could explain the operation, because I have a half idea in my head to solve a similar problem.
Thank you.

 

[Parametric_Ozzy]

There are various modes of work in modelchecks, if I take your example, it would be the mode of regeneration that consists of running mc automatically every time you regenerate a part or a set, but this still means opening the parts and assemblies individually.
will there be power of mc instead it is expressed in batch mode, so basically the external execution without having to open the cad or less the objects affected by the update, so if by hypothesis you have to requalify any parameter or rule within your model historian this is the most suitable mode, an example?
do you want to add a specific material to all parts where it has not been assigned?
You want to remove a parameter that you don't need anymore on all models?
do you want to rename a parameter because it has changed or why your client wants to call it differently?
all this is still doing it automatically without you having to open each part or together to add or remove one of the parameters of the examples mentioned above.
take the example of a start_part:
I assume you know that when you create a start_part all the models generated by this last "hereditate" certain parameters, materials, levels, etc., well but if for one reason or another over time I have to add other parameters, I can always do it in the start_parts and from this moment on all new models inherit these characters, from this moment on... is not retroactive, never!!! so... what do all of them do? open and update old models manually with new features aligning them to the new start_part, until they are few is good, but when the database grows you can so much shoot...mc automatically does it on all your database I have to add more?

greetings

 

[DANI-3D]

thanks to the clarification, I begin to appreciate the potential of mc and the thing stimulates me very, very imagination. in the next few days I will see to analyze it better. :finger:

 

[calacc]

I don't know if I understood right either, but if you said that you created a part at the level of together I think that you used an empty model, so not a part template with all the materials set in it, if when you create the part in mode together you use a classic start_part you should be able to assign any material, otherwise you have to upload them every time, is my thought correct or am I smoking a baobab? :

Correct! in the environment together I created part - creates feature and I started to model the dishes that made up my frame (without template).
as I had a symmetrical geometry to compose then I grouped some parts into a subaxieme and I made it create subaxis/spect and hit them also on the other side.

 

[Parametric_Ozzy]

thanks to the clarification, I begin to appreciate the potential of mc and the thing stimulates me very, very imagination. in the next few days I will see to analyze it better. :finger:

of nothing, I imagine that your imagination is galloping, I understand it because when I started to understand the potential of this tool I opened a new world.

Correct! in the environment together I created part - creates feature and I started to model the dishes that made up my frame (without template).
as I had a symmetrical geometry to compose then I grouped some parts into a subaxieme and I made it create subaxis/spect and hit them also on the other side.

Great, so now it's okay, you understand?