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[procatug]

you have no idea the power of nx as a modeler. . as management of large assembly... as integration in teamcenter... in routing... in the capture of knowledge... in multicad management in tc... in synchronous... etc.
some examples:
Groups: It is a typically cautious way of organizing the part. nx traditionally uses other methods... layer, ref set etc... c wanted groups so as to work exactly as they were accustomed. . .

by user of both (cv5 and nx) you find me in disagreement with the capture of knowledge since the kwe and cayenne templates are a little more ductile.:finger:

but because you have "copyed" the groups and, above all, because you have given the possibility to create subgroups. ..catia remembers the active group when you pass between various parts but nx no and it is a tragedy to recover it when you have groups with multiple levels

"copy" the sketch and its management that is still far ahead of the nx counterpart (although continuous and strong improvement):wink:

 

[The_Matrix]

by user of both (cv5 and nx) you find me in disagreement with the capture of knowledge since the kwe and cayenne templates are a little more ductile.:finger:

but because you have "copyed" the groups and, above all, because you have given the possibility to create subgroups. ..catia remembers the active group when you pass between various parts but nx no and it is a tragedy to recover it when you have groups with multiple levels

"copy" the sketch and its management that is still far ahead of the nx counterpart (although continuous and strong improvement):wink:

with all the respect of the world, I think you don't know the product template study and knowledge fusion well enough to risk comparisons.

we introduced the groups because c liked this type of management of the features... and did not want to change method.
Have you tried groups of 7.5.3? Try them and tell me.

What has the cat sketcher that has no nx?
... even here we could open a world on the stability of sketch geometries during regeneration... or the number of entities managed in the sketch itself. . .

a nanetto: your "almost colleagues" of c have always said that with the nx sketcher you could not make the archetype sections of shell... (Have you seen how they define ss in the casket? hundreds of modeling features that create curves resulting from construction surfaces ).
Well we did one (together with fga) and applied to 940 and 330: never collapsed. . .
In the end, if you want to do things, you do them... If you don't want to do things, you'll always find an excuse.. .

 

[The_Matrix]

well, I also care a lot about the novelty in the field drafting, carts etc..

My customers are still far away from being able to do without 2d boards
and this is a waste of time that sometimes does not have returns.

Okay, tomorrow I install it on my beast and try it.
We're just at phase 16... Not half the betas.
for example the "move face" of the st does not work.

 

[procatug]

with all the respect of the world, I think you don't know the product template study and knowledge fusion well enough to risk comparisons.

we introduced the groups because c liked this type of management of the features... and did not want to change method.
Have you tried groups of 7.5.3? Try them and tell me.

What has the cat sketcher that has no nx?
... even here we could open a world on the stability of sketch geometries during regeneration... or the number of entities managed in the sketch itself. . .

a nanetto: your "almost colleagues" of c have always said that with the nx sketcher you could not make the archetype sections of shell... (Have you seen how they define ss in the casket? hundreds of modeling features that create curves resulting from construction surfaces ).
Well we did one (together with fga) and applied to 940 and 330: never collapsed. . .
In the end, if you want to do things, you do them... If you don't want to do things, you'll always find an excuse.. .

on the pts I am still waiting for information from people sisw.. ask around....:smile: on the kf I give you reason: tt the times that we used it (and you are so many believes on some custom applications that we have made) we, then, had to remove it for various instability angry

of ss with sketch now there is no + and sn only a little slow in the ri-editing (when something goes wrong)!
for the sketch of cv5 I refer above all to the potential of re-editing as the complementar arc, removal and dynamic dragon on the geometric constraints, various lights (too beautiful!!!):smile:
I just hope you use nx as soon as possible. ....this continuous cv5 vs nx does not do well....

 

[The_Matrix]

on the pts I am still waiting for information from people sisw.. ask around....:smile: on the kf I give you reason: tt the times that we used it (and you are so many believes on some custom applications we have made) we have, then, had to remove it for instability various

of ss with sketch now there is no + and sn only a little slow in the ri-editing (when something goes wrong)!
for the sketch of cv5 I refer above all to the potential of re-editing as the complementar arc, removal and dynamic dragon on the geometric constraints, various lights (too beautiful!!!):smile:
I just hope you use nx as soon as possible. ....this continuous cv5 vs nx does not do well....

kf.we have done extraordinary applications with kf... Just go to fpt and molds to get an idea.
but this is a controversy that dates back to 2003 that I do not want to rival: I already cost myself enough rotten blood, quarrels, $ and trips to napoli.
I just have to prove that knowing how to use kf for what it was created is an extraordinary tool.
sketch.Boh... It will be that I am a simple one, but the sketch of nx7.5 seems to me absolutely in the state of art.
He doesn't miss anything for his use.
for the creation of "templates", then, with the modifications made to the solution engine to maintain the "verses" of the entities and avoid the "flips" is, imho (if you have examples, for charity, submissiles) eccezzionale.
apart from that there is the "alternate solution" for complementary lines/circles/offset, re-editing is just one thing that your friends of c do not want... they want the ss to have a "predictable" behavior regardless.
this "stability" and "predicatability" not the exchange with the lights.
ps. What are the lights for if the sketch is always "full constraint"?

Hi. (to have "currious" users like you around... :finger

 

[procatug]

Okay.
by returning to topic you may:
1) Insert 3d geometries into a layer
2) sketches in other
3) activate how work plane those sketches and make only visible that of the 3d

by activating/disactivating the layer you can see/not see the 3d.

 

[barlafus]

barlafus.. .
innovate so much to innovate (as it is doing ds with v6)

This is really good! with your permission I save it somewhere waiting for the copy of something good.. .


ps: I swear it is my last comment, otherwise I go (let's go) too in ot and then it seems, that I have it with your statements.

 

[The_Matrix]

This is really good! with your permission I save it somewhere waiting for the copy of something good.. .


ps: I swear it is my last comment, otherwise I go (let's go) too in ot and then it seems, that I have it with your statements.

barlafus,
If v6 was what ds customers expected, after 3 years (my 3 months) from its presentation, someone would use it no?
instead "pare" (I am not the + indicated to say) that of companies that have adopted it there are not so many.... or not?
hello and good Sunday

 

[Utente NX]

I just hope you use nx as soon as possible. ....this continuous cv5 vs nx does not do well....

I decided to test nx8 as we were undecided to switch to nx7.5 or wait nx8 as the passage is very honorable in terms of time and mentality of people.
there are the usual painstaking balls that are still tied to how you worked with ug17 and at each step complain with the boss for months and months.
I have to say that nx8 surprised me widely.
So I believe that the comparison has brought great benefits to nx users and I hope that siemens will continue to implement by putting what it feels good about nx.
I hope in a future that the wave geometry link becomes automatic in top-down mode and that the vision of assembly constraints becomes better.
I agree that the modeling is becoming the state of art.

 

[SER.CAD]

ctrl + b....................

 

[The_Matrix]

I decided to test nx8 as we were undecided to switch to nx7.5 or wait nx8 as the passage is very honorable in terms of time and mentality of people.
there are the usual painstaking balls that are still tied to how you worked with ug17 and at each step complain with the boss for months and months.
I have to say that nx8 surprised me widely.
So I believe that the comparison has brought great benefits to nx users and I hope that siemens will continue to implement by putting what it feels good about nx.
I hope in a future that the wave geometry link becomes automatic in top-down mode and that the vision of assembly constraints becomes better.
I agree that the modeling is becoming the state of art.

the wave geometry link becomes automatic in top-down mode You know I don't understand?
do you mean the possibility that nx does the wgl when you select something external to the work part while running the features?
the vision of assembly constraints become betterI don't mind too. . .
Is that nx8 with the assy constraint navigator better?

 

[ceschi1959]

I hope in a future that the wave geometry link becomes automatic in top-down mode

It's already like that in 7.5. look in the selection filters if there is only 'work part' or 'entre assembly' (I hope to have written correctly).

 

[The_Matrix]

It's already like that in 7.5. look in the selection filters if there is only 'work part' or 'entre assembly' (I hope to have written correctly).

my question was in fact directed to understand if you do not know how to select "entire assembly" that automatically creates the wgl or if you intended a different use.

 

[Utente NX]

the wave geometry link becomes automatic in top-down mode You know I don't understand?
do you mean the possibility that nx does the wgl when you select something external to the work part while running the features?
the vision of assembly constraints become betterI don't mind too. . .
Is that nx8 with the assy constraint navigator better?

1) when I am in top-down mode I always active 'entre assembly'
the speech that when I make 'extrusion to' and select a face of another component, it does not automatically extract the face.
same thing for sketches, I only feel the first time but it does not stay hooked.
I would like the wgl to automatically extract the type of geometry of the component I use to design in top-down and remove it if I don't use it anymore.
i.e. that he incorporated it as he does with sketches within the function.

2) added filters and greater clarity on errors, but the principle is the same... it is not clear.
I'll give you an example:
ignite a plate with 2 constraints on a piece.
on this plate I double 25 pieces with 2 couplings.
Do you know how many constraints I see if they select the plate?
25*2+2=52.
Now I have to edit the ties of the plate to change its position or redefine them or delete them.
According to you, it is easily understandable in that list of 52 couplings to understand which are those inherent in the plate.
I thought I was just the one who had this problem, and then I realized there's a tide.
This problem arises with the 7, but with the 7.5 and with the 8 it has been taken into account the option of making it more intuitive search.
I'm sure that the problem is related to the philosophy behind and going back you can't, but I'm not a programmer and maybe something can be done.

apart from these two limits, I find that the 8 in modeling makes me shiver.. I don't see any competitors about it.

 

[Team3d]

... a small suggestion (take it as such).
do not work in nx thinking about v5 ...
the best way is (if possible) to use the nx tool without thinking "but before I did so."
in nx there are all the tools to work well, but if you try to find things that were "in there" ... you can tribulate.

good drink.... is what I always say there are smart things in other cads and smart things in nx and if we try to use software as we are accustomed to using another is a drama.
For example, it comes from v4 or v5 always asks me how to create anything using points.... there are points in nx ....but we do not make such a wide use of it and this means that, succeeding in drawing what we want, that the good nx has different possibilities of creation and so also of visualization. what I always recommend is to engage, struggling, using nx smart tools.....poi some invocation always pulls it down....if we don't do it is thanks to the addiction to workaround :wink:

 

[ceschi1959]

1) when I am in top-down mode I always active 'entre assembly'
the speech that when I make 'extrusion to' and select a face of another component, it does not automatically extract the face.
same thing for sketches, I only feel the first time but it does not stay hooked.
I would like the wgl to automatically extract the type of geometry of the component I use to design in top-down and remove it if I don't use it anymore.
i.e. that he incorporated it as he does with sketches within the function.

in the attached figure you can see that with the 7.5 does it:
the datum and the linked surface were created in the axieme taking care to activate the suitable flags (top left).
does not make these entities inside extrusion... but I'm satisfied.
always with the 7.5 sketch or curves you can make them independent.

 

[Utente NX]

in the attached figure you can see that with the 7.5 does it:
the datum and the linked surface were created in the axieme taking care to activate the suitable flags (top left).
does not make these entities inside extrusion... but I'm satisfied.
always with the 7.5 sketch or curves you can make them independent.

you are right, the option exists (unactivated) to automatically extract surfaces.
thanks for the suggestion, pity that if you change the extension surfaces, that remains and you have to remove it by hand.
for that I asked it to be incorporated, especially for those lazy designers or who do not hold the tree of clean and clear features.

for sketches, however, the option remains stiff.
I attach an image to clarify.
I would love that if I attack with the end of the line at one edge of another component, it automatically extracted as it happens with the previous case, the edge of the other component.

You didn't answer me, do you think like me?

 

[ceschi1959]

you are right, the option exists (unactivated) to automatically extract surfaces.
thanks for the suggestion, pity that if you change the extension surfaces, that remains and you have to remove it by hand.
for that I asked it to be incorporated, especially for those lazy designers or who do not hold the tree of clean and clear features.

for sketches, however, the option remains stiff.
I attach an image to clarify.
I would love that if I attack with the end of the line at one edge of another component, it automatically extracted as it happens with the previous case, the edge of the other component.

You didn't answer me, do you think like me?

Hi.
it is possible to link an extracted or projected curve (as from attached image). I find it a 'know' option because it is explicit and therefore allows you to have it under control. It's an operation I don't usually do because I work 99% in top-down.
here I answer to your second question: in top-down mode I do not use any type of mating. I only use them to make assembly assemblies and find them manageable better than old matings, but it's just my opinion.

 

[Utente NX]

Hi.
it is possible to link an extracted or projected curve (as from attached image). I find it a 'know' option because it is explicit and therefore allows you to have it under control. It's an operation I don't usually do because I work 99% in top-down.
here I answer to your second question: in top-down mode I do not use any type of mating. I only use them to make assembly assemblies and find them manageable better than old matings, but it's just my opinion.

hello and excuse me if I answer only now, but there was a long bridge from us.
the speech is that during the creation and also the modification of the sketch in top-down mode, if you want to hook up and stay attached to a component, you must first know and operate by extracting the entities that interest you.
is not dynamic and automatic as with extrusion to the surface.
I find that working in top-down mode with nx is not the most sympathetic, referring to what is around, indeed I think it is the only one who works like this.

for matings, I think facts speak clear.
Maybe your cases don't make the problem visible.