64bit version

[Dylan]

long ago I knew that toptron was developing a version for the s.o. 64bit.

Do any of you know if they've already introduced it? What if someone tried?

Hi.
dylan

 

[Dylan]

I heard about it.



dylan

 

[cicciomarmitta]

Hello, Dilan.
see that I had already placed the problem, see discussion "windows xp 64-bit"

 

[Dylan]

Asked if it was about 64 bits. I was wondering if someone had information or news about the release of tops written for s.o. 64-bit.

32bit top versions should turn quietly on s.o. 64 bit but quite different is the software written for 64 bit. from how I know (from what they told me) for example on xp64 all 32-written applications normally turn without the advantages of 64bits.

more confused than clear, but that's what it should be.

If I'm wrong. .

dylan

 

[belock75]

hi to all I just signed up, I just wanted to answer the discussion about the 64-bit version saying that I contacted the microsystem and they have read me that it is now ready they are only testing it, even if as an old user I can say that their "ready" is always relative, since they had already made me see it in November during the course of aggorment. . .

greetings

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[garide]

Good evening to all

how I write
Indiscreztions give the 64-bit vesrione out of office from version 10 "maybe 9.5" now there is only a 9.02 beta. the 9 64-bit beta came out after a couple of months from the official release of the 9, after having released vare sp the development moved bringing it to 10.

I have to say that the 64-bit version with a 64-bit win7 system is far much more performing, logically you have to have even a little more memory, tests done only managed to allocate up to 6gb in sigola session loading a monstrous project that with the 32 I could not load complete.

It is now 4/5 months that I work there 12 hours a day 6 days a week and I must say that I do not use + 32 since I installed it. of different has only that there is the comendo text in in the 3d, to make writings and logos still use the 32 but for the rest 64 bit

for some other info ask yourself

 

[Godzuky]

I got a couple of months ago, I'm using it, more than anything to shock me, and unless there is a need to work on large projects (e.g. whole cars) it doesn't need anything at all. is completely identical to the 32 version and has some extra limits in the cam area.

 

[AndreaL]

I got a couple of months ago, I'm using it, more than anything to shock me, and unless there is a need to work on large projects (e.g. whole cars) it doesn't need anything at all. is completely identical to the 32 version and has some extra limits in the cam area.

Okay if you don't walk, with 64 bit, the process calculation times are down a lot.

 

[Godzuky]

the calculation times on win7-64bit between the versions to 32 and 64 vary about 1% and not always (this at least with the hardware recommended by the Italian software distributor). I assure you that I have also altered, because when they came to talk to us it seemed that it would have to be the panacea to all the evils, so instead it was not and, as I said, in addition it introduced me some bugs and some limitation (I add one: I found some incompatibility between the database to 32 and 64 bits, so that some files of the first will not open with the second one, the thing that sends to me I hope you'll get better.

 

[garide]

Ba...

I don't have any differences of 1%, too, I have done some tests between vesion 32 and 64 using it again when it was in beta1, consider that I do not cam, I do only project.

In loading the projects already you can see speed diffrections, the 64 allows you to exploit all the memory of the system, bringing also in phase of regeneration of the features the memory to 5/6 gb on single section.

the activation of the particulars is immediate, of course much depends on the hardware you have at your disposal, certainly miracles does not do it compared to 32.

the incompatibility I found it too but only in the 2d, a design saved with the 64 can not + open the 32. I haven't found any other problems.

I find myself + what good, I always use it, and it is not that project crutches, the average of my molds are fanal bodies, lenses, bumpers, underglass, bimateria, plank, spools, door compartments and known several difference between the 2, when I use the 32 only to generate the writings since the command texts in 64 is not there, I look forward to finishing to to to to to to to to to to to toranre in 64. the zpr is very slow, the visulization of the components as well, is all on average + slowed down.

 

[Godzuky]

I tried to simply load the mathematics of the "sixth element" to 32 and 64 bit, chronometer to the hand I had 67sec. and 60sec.

look at the pictures.

But I want to point out that toptron and it's my software, it just pisses me off to be teased.

Hello, everyone!

 

[garide]

I tried to simply load the mathematics of the "sixth element" to 32 and 64 bit, chronometer to the hand I had 67sec. and 60sec.

look at the pictures.

But I want to point out that toptron and it's my software, it just pisses me off to be teased.

Hello, everyone!

hi I can't understand if your post is to give confirmation to my thesis or contraction anyway I attach you 2 pictures, only to load the mathematical stress of the same mold the 32 bit system puts 40 seconds more.

Now let's imagine when it comes to making regeneration etc...

all those who snobbish him and criticize him would like to confront me seriously...

 

[Dylan]

all those who snobbish him and criticize him would like to confront me seriously...

It's not that you understand very well what you express. even if you can interpret..

Look honestly, I'm just talking about cam, if you want to compare with me prepared, put on gloves and mouthguards though

as I have said several times every sw has its merits and its defects.
In this case we want to talk about defects? or better than "directions" undertaken by development?
There are some things I sincerely think are not understandable and, in my humble opinion, very simple to implement at the software level. .

more difficult to agree. The others do it or they have started doing it for years. and they didn't even start now... You want an example? programming a finishing then, given a tool port and pre-established ucs (or in a scientific way defined by the system) the subdivision in areas (which have a minimum of logic as a form...) to be milled in 3+2.

it is said around that to be the first you must not chase anyone.. but to make your own way.. Maybe every second throwing an eye at the rearviewer to see if the others follow the same direction. But you have to have p. to innovate I don't know if I explain... .

We could talk for hours...

dylan

 

[garide]

Hi.

for the gloves give me time to get them that I don't have them in the house.
:smile::smile:

as you read in the precendi post I do not follow the development of the cam, follow and text the various betas only for the 3d/2d.

Backgrounds open in saying, that every software has predictions and defects, I was only intervened in the debate in specifying that the 64bit vesion find it very + stable and fast of 32.

true "to be the first you must not chase anyone.. but to make your own way.. " considers that I do not re-ether and not the best software in the world, I would be an optic, I just think that compared to others, (which I do not elenchero to not create a wasp) has nothing to envy.

I tried to do some tests on the field, others also have many limits.

changing topic I don't know if you've seen the pdf with some news of the 10, the 19 commitments allowing, I should be in bologna for the presentation of the beta.

Hi.

 

[Dylan]

look we are on a free forum. of the wasp. I would give more importance to comparison than to the wasp.. .

I also guarantee you that I have caste high-sounding names by mortifying and shutting characters from the inexplicable oratory, with motives and attitudes of who is able to build a shuttle with 3 clicks...
We're saying obvious things. even sacred monsters have their defects.

Maybe another thing. I sometimes have the impression that a path of development has been taken that is not right. .

on this some competitors, I do not say the names, worknc, has a more logical development and they are to us of the trade. develop solutions that "serve". things and tools that have logic and reason to exist (as well as I imagine but I do not know well, work).
I am very practical and concrete. I have to get the job down and fast. The words of the trade are only good at stuffing the fools. .

Good job
dylan

 

[monster]

In fact, what dylan says is true! !

...I say it because I saw and heard with my eyes and ears names par excellence of software-house that seemed to defeat every problem
...but it wasn't really like that... people just know how to talk, and they're not able to work or work at the cad or on the car... let's just get around.

at the bimu fair I saw all the colors then in the end I realized that it is so worth breaking the bales to carry out a software... experimenting... that some "garids" in turn you texts me the top and then finally the usual soup! ! !

... always as usual.... the commands that you need do not exist and the commands that we have only serve you to waste time and constancy. ..bearing you towards exasperation and then to take you to more "logical" software. . .

I would love to develop a software and make my contribution because in the end when they give me the releases I find what I really need and not the usual porcades that show that there is nothing left to do
because no one is able to design or mill anymore! ! ! !

 

[garide]

... always as usual.... the commands that you need do not exist and the commands that we have only serve you to waste time and constancy. ..bearing you towards exasperation and then to take you to more "logical" software. . .

Good morning

true, it is from birth that I ask a couple of commands that serve me to improve and speed up the design and I have not even seen the shadow, the only answer I had is that toptron inserts the commands according to the requests, and according to the difficulty of programming.

of the series that if 100 people require a command or implementation of an existing one, and 1 person a specific command, before 100 people will be satisfied.

then that these 100 people are donkeys who cannot design and that the command required at the end does not serve anything, it is not important.

the important thing is to please most users to feel less complaints possible.

Sincerely there are several commands that could be removed quietmante, I would not miss it, I could make you a long list on the page.
commands that to what "say" someone to request ....

at the bimu fair I saw all the colors then in the end I realized that it is so worth breaking the bales to carry out a software... experimenting... that some "garids" in turn you texts me the top and then finally the usual soup! ! !

see monster, if I could decide in the development phase what to enter I would be happy, when he has us "beta" gives you the trial version the new commands are already inserted, we have the task to use it, signaling the various problems, plantings, various swans.

all this at our risk and danger, of the series that if I'm planning and the system decides to break a serious file, and I can't move on.... They are mye, there are no saints that help me.

you could tell me "but why do you do it, wait for the officer" I do it hoping that one tomorrow will listen to me on my requests, to help, because in the end I have to work with the system, and if my little contribution can improve the situation well come.

in general they are able all to complain ......

you both have a pm

Hi.
Good job

 

[Dylan]

we don't know how to write 2 lines in Italian.. I first.. A little bit, I'm running off the graduation button a little bit.

it seems to me to read a forum attended by foreigners ) .. do monster???

Invece garide is harassed and oberated by the dirt and hard work of betatester. Of course he's no longer holding

Good job!
dylan

 

[monster]

we don't know how to write 2 lines in Italian.. I first.. A little bit, I'm running off the graduation button a little bit.

it seems to me to read a forum attended by foreigners ) .. do monster???

:biggrin: strange that I am ignorant:biggrin:

 

[garide]

:tongue:

who are lazy

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