adobe e vectorworks: fino a che punto?

[zetadierre]

Good evening!

I finally decided: I will acquire an edu license of an adobe product, prices are convenient and exit the cs5 so it is made!

I wanted to ask for advice:

I have always used only photoshops, which I think I can cuff quite well, although obviously not professionally. We have also always stuck in ps, even if I know that this thing arouses the rebred of many professionals, I guarantee that at least for the universal so many but almost all people we have always arranged like this, but also professors, relief for example, have always used this progtramma as a point of reference.

Let us be clear: I am at the master's degree that illustrator and indeisgn never even open.. .

all this to say: standard design (ps+ill+indesign+acrobatpro) or simply the only and always adaptable photoshop? always to associate obviously to vectoreworks, not to go out section

Hello everyone and thank you!

 

[lory.b]

sincerely, studying those software can only be useful to you, even if vw is a great employee and, probably, illustrator you will not have the opportunity to use it more than once.
Indesign is great, especially if you have to take thesis... and the thesis tomorrow
acrobat pro... I can't help it, maybe you still don't need it. but advanced pdf management is extremely important in the profession.
The fact that you do ps layout should make you understand that you need to know others, otherwise you wouldn't be so proud... ;-p (this is bad, I know!)
on the level of computer knowledge of most teachers we lay a pitiful veil that is better... .

I understand that it's still a shopping, but my advice is to take the suite rather than the single ps because today maybe, you don't need the unit, but tomorrow maybe you end up in a studio that uses them and advantaged parts.
I do.

 

[zetadierre]

the starting price is not so much... 300 euros included for the suite, but the update comes to 700 euros if I want to turn it commercial. I'd pay less. .

Lory but indesign... is it indicated to impaginate tables or magazines and thesis? ? ?

Can you tell me you use indesign and illustrator and acrobat? I'm satisfied with a very sterile shopping list

 

[lory.b]

indesign:
is used to imply books. for thesis and thesis, in your case, it is perfect.
here books (the rose that came out last year on our study we did it here at home with this software); cv and multilingual portfolio, coordinated study image (headed card, business cards, etc.); exhibitions and events posters; assemble slideshow in pdf; exhibition panels (although for the latter is more indicated illustrator); project relationships; etc.

illustrator (but I still use freehand...): vector graphics.
here it is used for logo design; design lettering; exhibition panels; eps cleaning for publications.

acrobat: is used for pdf management and creation
here his to assemble and print files, cv and study portfolio; protect pdf to send around; pdf size reduction generated by printing mac os (which are always generously heavy); various and possible. . .

satisfied? ;-)
I do.

 

[zetadierre]

indesign:
is used to imply books. for thesis and thesis, in your case, it is perfect.
here books (the rose that came out last year on our study we did it here at home with this software); cv and multilingual portfolio, coordinated study image (headed card, business cards, etc.); exhibitions and events posters; assemble slideshow in pdf; exhibition panels (although for the latter is more indicated illustrator); project relationships; etc.

illustrator (but I still use freehand...): vector graphics.
here it is used for logo design; design lettering; exhibition panels; eps cleaning for publications.

acrobat: is used for pdf management and creation
here his to assemble and print files, cv and study portfolio; protect pdf to send around; pdf size reduction generated by printing mac os (which are always generously heavy); various and possible. . .

satisfied? ;-)
I do.[/QUOTE]Yes, but how do I know if I need it? I have never used them in the unit:-(
What should I do for the university with indesign and illustrator that I can't do with photoshop? I have to understand if somehow they can serve me: you can't buy a program in advance if maybe you're not 100% sure to use it, so I thought I'd download demos try to work on it--- to see if I'm there... and from experience I have seen that until you put it on it-- a program does not learn it.. .

 

[lory.b]

What should I do for the university with indesign and illustrator that I can't do with photoshop?

It's been a few years since the last time I made an exam. I guess now you use your computer much more than now. And yet you seem so behind me on a computer level.
but written theses don't make you do it? from us there was no matter where it was not required. at the time I wrote them with the mythical c1-text on amiga, I printed them (printer to needles) and then I glued the images.... seems past a life :-\
the thesis, however, in a1, I impaginata all with xpress.... but at the time I didn't have very clear ideas... .
at work, however, all the contest boards up to about 5/6 years ago, they dressed up on freehand, for the compositional freedom and graphics that offered compared to vw.

Anyway, letting ps lose to impaginare, which I no longer want to hear about if not scream, now with vw you can do it quietly and optimally, then pdf for printing.
so, not wanting to face the expense for a cs, you can easily enough ps+vw coupling.

this does not remove that in serious places specific programs are used to do specific things.
the spacer to engage text and graphics. the vector graphics program to compose tables. the raster processing program to create impact images, etc...

So I thought I'd dump the demos trying to work on it-- to see if I'm here... and from experience I have seen that until you put it on it-- a program does not learn it.. .

That sounds like a good idea.
I do not love illustrator so I try to use it as little as possible, but indesign I am convinced you can serve. because there is a nice difference between words that is good for writing and a software for imagination!
Therefore, if you decide to take only ps I recommend you try to use scribus, software for opensource layout.
I do.

 

[zetadierre]

It's been a few years since the last time I made an exam.

time is relative and exams never end :36_3_11:

I guess now you use your computer much more than now. And yet you seem so behind me on a computer level.

I quote bauman who claims that "with the gratuitousness of global communication the global language has impoverished".

but written theses don't make you do it? from us there was no matter where it was not required.

mh. I would not say no, but this does not take away from us

at the time I wrote them with the mythical c1-text on amiga, I printed them (printer to needles) and then I glued the images.... seems past a life :-\

mitica lory :biggrin:

at work, however, all the contest boards up to about 5/6 years ago, they dressed up on freehand, for the compositional freedom and graphics that offered compared to vw.

but is this freehand also free? Is it still valid? What does it offer in + compared to vw? or, what did you offer that vw did not replace now?

in any case, letting ps lose to impaginare, that I no longer want to hear about it if not scream,

:36_6_3: :biggrin:

now with vw you can do it quietly and optimally, then pdf for printing.

and here we reconnect to the debate already made. Do you know that with the latest update of snow leopard I felt like reading something on the adobe printer? possible?

That sounds like a good idea.
I do not love illustrator so I try to use it as little as possible, but indesign I am convinced you can serve. because there is a nice difference between words that is good for writing and a software for imagination!
Therefore, if you decide to take only ps I recommend you try to use scribus, software for opensource layout.
I do.

I will meditate on these considerations. Thank you!

 

[lory.b]

but is this freehand also free? Is it still valid? What does it offer in + compared to vw? or, what did you offer that vw did not replace now?

macromedia freehand was purchased by adobe to be affossated, as it was the direct competitor of illustrator. the thing triggered not a few protests, but adobe obviously did nothing. of freehand remains this old version that turns under rosette, with all the magagne of the case. but still my favorite.
of free there is inkscape, which is opensource.

and here we reconnect to the debate already made. Do you know that with the latest update of snow leopard I felt like reading something on the adobe printer? possible?

apple decided that the adobe printer on sl should no longer work. There is a gabola to reactivate it, anyway. ;-)
I do.

 

[warburg]

I do not use vw but say my about indesign/ps/acrobat: I think you should have them and know how to use them, both in the faculty and then in the profession.
id: fantastic and wonderful program to fit anything
ps: "I'll tell you to do it," he'll be making coffee in a while.
ac: considering that pdf format is also an indispensable standard, it is very convenient to have a software to mount, reassemble and edit files. if you do not want to spend the money that asks you adobe there are very good versions to a few dozen euros, type cutepdf

 

[enri]

I think it is more indispensable acrobat pro than illustrator and photoshop. you can replace them with gimp and inkscape, maybe try then see how you are. I would not exclude an alternative solution to acobat and obviously professional since it is really heavy and invasive, I know that there are but I do not get any.

 

[Ramaja]

I'll bring you my graduate experience: I've heard an astound of illustrator and photoshop and I assure you that for my "tea" in consolidation (two years of work) of layout there has gone astonishment.
after losing time fatigue and so much stress I went to chorel draw and I found myself very well right away.
If you do not photo editing at absurd levels, photopaint goes divinely well and above all contrary to ps+ illustrator is very integrated, allowing you to edit with pp directly from the inside of coreldraw while editing images.
importing cad files is not a problem even if by experience I recommend you stay anchored to your cad for the final printing to have a better control over line thicknesses and better seal the gremlins that will inevitably spun stamap after printing.
only significant photopaint deficiency is the lack of a photo-rading module, but you can easily plead with other software (e.g. photo-rading of the bottle or paintshop pro)and in any case the photoshop straightening module is painful if not for simpler and imprecise jobs.
corel draw educational believes you are located for about 200€