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since This is what discussion was nice and funny, I propose one that is based on a recent episode. . .
I was at a traffic light.
in the lane beside a cbr 600
approaching the cbr a scooter, looked like a burgman 650.
The scooter looks at the cbrist from above down, with making of "I have it from 650 I... We're playing it! " :rolleyes:
the biker, rightly, looks at him as you admire one sitting on a toilet in the middle of the road:cool:
is about to take the green....
the scooterista touches his best make-up... Fast deep with pulled brake!
to the green, the scooterista leaves the brake and earns perhaps 3 meters. :eek:
after 5 seconds the cbr was far on the horizon and the scooterist was still breathing the waste of the motaro.... :biggrin:

What do you think??? Do you like scooters?
 
I've always hated them, since I was a kid when the friend came and asked you to mount the "expansion marmit" or the "dwelve". who did such operations on the wasp 50 special will surely understand the current of hatred that could generate similar demands... .
 
the scooterista touches his best make-up... Fast deep with pulled brake!
I've always wondered how they could load the elastic band that makes the scooooter march, now I understand!

night.
 
I always wondered what pushes one to take a medium on which he sits as on the cabinet and that he has the same noise as a lawnmower.. .
 
I prefer the wasp, maybe the old ones (I have a spring of 1973).
will not be performing but you want to change the marches? It's a pleasure!
I never climbed on a bike or on a scooter but it seems to me that the scooter is not funny
 
since This is what discussion was nice and funny, I propose one that is based on a recent episode. . .
I was at a traffic light.
in the lane beside a cbr 600
approaching the cbr a scooter, looked like a burgman 650.
The scooter looks at the cbrist from above down, with making of "I have it from 650 I... We're playing it! " :rolleyes:
the biker, rightly, looks at him as you admire one sitting on a toilet in the middle of the road:cool:
is about to take the green....
the scooterista touches his best make-up... Fast deep with pulled brake!
to the green, the scooterista leaves the brake and earns perhaps 3 meters. :eek:
after 5 seconds the cbr was far on the horizon and the scooterist was still breathing the waste of the motaro.... :biggrin:

What do you think??? Do you like scooters?
I am a motorcyclist who has tried them all, from the mythical wasp subsequently elaborated, passing through a honda 750, returning to the scooter with a burgman 400 and now I have a bandit 650; in the near future I will likely opt for a greater displacement.

I meet every day scooterists who try to engage bagarre on the street or who invent circus numbers to prove to be more hands than those who have in front; with sometimes comic results, sometimes less and fortunately less often with terrible consequences.

the more I think about it and the more I do not know how a scooterista does not understand that the medium that has under the butt has physically limits due to the cyclist, the diameter of the tire, the distribution of the weights, the lack of brake motor etc.. and despite everything you want to prove to be better than a superbyke pilot lying at risk your own and the other safety.

with this I do not say that all the imbeciles in circulation have under the butt a scooter, there are on all means; But if one buys a means to go to work all year round without taking a water drip in comfort is conscious of the limits that the medium imposes and adapts.

do we want to talk about the category equipped tmax??
 
I do not love scooters but I have to do need, virtue.
I have a beverly 250 bought since I could start bringing my daughter who is now 7 years old. Unfortunately in the city, with the limited times within which you have to take the little to kindergarten or to school, go to "timbrare" within the terms, exit the office and run to resume the pargolo (that the kindergartens or the communal schools, they do not hold them beyond the times, can tolerate once a delay, but that does not repeat!),any time ago, the scooter shows all its usefulness. bauletto, underseat compartment, sheltered enough from the rain, you can (burning some light) make it.
I had two wasps and regret them but the scooter, it is more practical. and in the city, with the condition of the streets, between holes, tombs, rails etc. high wheels give that extra safety.
Of course, I do not dream of going to make the folds on the bracco or on the wall, but having had as a young road bike (besides two enduro), I prefer a scooter that vaguely remembers a bike. You're not sitting on my cup. I hate the pedane placed beyond the handlebar, I never loved the motorcycle type harley, choppers, etc.
Now I have to wait a few more years then, maybe I will take a quiet naked, from urban use and catwalk since for the carenates now I am over.
 
I am a motorcyclist who has tried them all, from the mythical wasp subsequently elaborated, passing through a honda 750, returning to the scooter with a burgman 400 and now I have a bandit 650; in the near future I will likely opt for a greater displacement.

I meet every day scooterists who try to engage bagarre on the street or who invent circus numbers to prove to be more hands than those who have in front; with sometimes comic results, sometimes less and fortunately less often with terrible consequences.

the more I think about it and the more I do not know how a scooterista does not understand that the medium that has under the butt has physically limits due to the cyclist, the diameter of the tire, the distribution of the weights, the lack of brake motor etc.. and despite everything you want to prove to be better than a superbyke pilot lying at risk your own and the other safety.

with this I do not say that all the imbeciles in circulation have under the butt a scooter, there are on all means; But if one buys a means to go to work all year round without taking a water drip in comfort is conscious of the limits that the medium imposes and adapts.

do we want to talk about the category equipped tmax??
he he he, tmax equipped.... once one has roof:
"Wouldn't go like a bike with the hornet I was less!" he had on a marrmittone ke seemed a bazooka, ridiculous.
I do not despise scooters for what they are (nb I have a r1 '01 from track):
a means to move from home to work or to the sea, with a little trunk to store junk, and a minimum of shelter. point.
The father-in-law has a burgman 400 and doesn't go bad, sure it's not a motorcycle.
then the speech on the imbeciles starts from the bicycle, passing through the smart, conflicting with the mini and the golf, ending with the suv.... is full the world, and it is not that you can recognize only from the medium ke they use (od anke from the software he he he he he he)
 
according to my personal opinion there is no comparison term, I have an f4 (comprate used by a friend) and a wasp 250 (also a ktm, but that is only for the woods and I leave it in the mountains) and I will tell you that with the scooter I travel well to go to work, I do not bathe etc etc, but with the mv I enjoy.
simply different purposes.
 
"I have it from 650 I... Let's play it!
but the cbrrista did not concern him with air as to say: "I have 110 horses in the pa@@e, you 55 in the middle of the ass"?
It's not just the displacement. .
and anyway, even without brake tricks (the variator will have blasphemed against him!) if the cbrrista lost those three meters is because he had little familiarity with friction. will be slipped at the beginning...
the more I think about it and the more I do not know how a scooterista does not understand that the medium that has under the butt has physically limits due to the cyclist, the diameter of the tire, the distribution of the weights, the lack of brake motor etc..
and the change, and the setup, and the distribution of the power.. .

I should personally think that scooters are lighter, more handy, more comfortable and less dangerous than motorcycles. And yet:
- in traffic I move better with my er5 than with beverly
- when I sit on the bike, even before I turn it on, I feel calmer
I'll turn it on... 130 with the bike I know I can stop in 50 meters. 80 on a scooter. I'm afraid to touch the brakes.
- the position on the scooter should be more ergonomic, but after two hours of traffic on the scooter I have the back to pieces (especially in the lumbar area), after 1000km on the bike (napoli - zara with an intermediate stop) I had the arms a little tired.

I don't know... I'll be tarated, but I don't see much of the comfort on scooters... I'm sure they cost a little less, but not much.
if you fall (plan) with a scooter are hundreds of euro of shell. if you fall with many motions (especially naked) change the horn of ox, brake lever or clutch, and give a polish to the pot.
 
I think scooters should do what they were thinking about: a means of handling mobility that allows you to move in traffic without difficulty. the same concept that gave birth to the wasp at the time, but obviously with different technologies. so well the possibility to keep the legs together and a seat "to cabinet", the windscreen, the saddle very comfortable and the absence of change: are all things that make it easier to use. But we must realize that it is not a bike. I am also aware of the limits of my medium. If you like to go to 200 there's the track, there are limits in the city and if you don't mind them. then yes, a nice bike his slutty figure and also excites me.
said this, I must with my regret note that many scooterists do not realize what they have under their butt and believe bikers. done this, imho, which has brought almost all the houses producing to create scooters with aggressive design, pots to the limits of comics and above all stratospheric dimensions, have now lost one of the reasons why they are born: to be manageable. I have a px, so it is the wasp with the bigger body shop. when I go to the bar and parking next to a scooter, oh, looks like a 50. Then I wonder: where is the advantage of the two wheels when the vehicle has the size of a car?

funny note: I participated in a couple of motoraduni more for curiosity than for passion. but to see arrive a nice scooter driver load (very load) stop at the entrance and see him feel like: "the plastic on the right, at the bottom, here we hold the bikes, you know what it is" made me die
 
I believe that as in mechanics each component must be chosen and optimized according to its use also in the motorcycle field you have to use the right means in the right place. personally I don't love scooters very much but I don't even like to travel in summer on the waterfront at 40 km/h with a 1000 cc bicylinder. I don't know if you've ever experienced this experience but the heat coming from the engine feel that swelling roar and that strongly irregular trend brings back the image of a sticky lion with the museruola and a chain around the neck!! Sure that the commercial strategies of the building houses do not collimate much with my philosophy as there are means such as the t-max that will never bother a sportsman but will be more uncomfortable and heavier than many other most enjoyable scooters in the city. Of course with this I absolutely do not want to say that you have to have 4 or 5 motorcycles in the garage also because of these times I do not know how many if I can afford it, but to challenge a cbr to the traffic light with a scooter..................... .
 
personally I don't love scooters very much but I don't even like to travel in summer on the waterfront at 40 km/h with a 1000 cc bicylinder.
You made me think when I had to do it with a 1000 sp guzzi: dry clutch, first from 90 km/h, cardan, integral famine.... never again.....
 
That's why scooterists hate us and never say goodbye...

Hei mbt, why don't you open a tread on the "motor wave"? ":biggrin:
scooterists do not greet bikers because the latter consider the other "unworthy".
Perhaps it is not simply a problem of motorcyclists. It's a society problem. rude, uneducated, disrespectful and selfish.
when I was 18 years old and we left with 3 other friends at the time of barcelona with our wasps, every biker we crossed, snailed as a sign of greeting. We were not motorcyclists, too.
It's not just about motorcycles. I go cycling racing with other friends and when crossing other cyclists, some greet, others do not.
Of course, today the number of means in circulation has increased to dismeasure but perhaps, proportionally, menefreghism has increased.
 
That's why scooterists hate us and never say goodbye...

Hei mbt, why don't you open a tread on the "motor wave"? ":biggrin:
scooterists do not greet bikers because the latter consider the other "unworthy".
Perhaps it is not simply a problem of motorcyclists. It's a society problem. rude, uneducated, disrespectful and selfish.
when I was 18 years old and we left with 3 other friends at the time of barcelona with our wasps, every biker we crossed, snailed as a sign of greeting. We were not motorcyclists, too.
It's not just about motorcycles. I go cycling racing with other friends and when crossing other cyclists, some greet, others do not.
Of course, today the number of means in circulation has increased to dismeasure but perhaps, proportionally, menefreghism has increased.
I don't think that's a consideration problem. . .
is a problem of education
being "motor of Sunday" and only when wife and daughters allow me, I turn little with the bike
by habit I greet the other motors that cross, are with r1 that with a scooter 125
But I see that those with the scooter never answer... for them perhaps it is only a means of transport
those with the 500 cv... they almost never answer.. He doesn't have time to pull a hand. They risk some horse leaving for his own cabbages.. .
the best, those who enjoy it and who "live" the bike are those with the custom and those with the enduro.. .
 
Perhaps I can give you a personal interpretation of the fact that often by greeting people who meet on the street these do not respond to be they scooterists I have bikers. I have had a motorbike since I was 8 years old (a minimum of cross) then growing I passed to the fifty, to the 125 (I had the future aprilia of 1990) and finally I arrived to the "maxi". the first motorcycle with four cylinders and at 4 times I was able to allow working hard at the age of 22 years and I was speaking of distant 1997. in that period we were in few to have a motorbike in the garage and popular prejudices apart I remember that in my Sunday exits if I saw a service area with 10 motorcycles I was sure to find 10 new friends. then the times have changed has arrived the general well-being and at the service station I find young people of 20 years intuited with clothing racig and underline racing indicating the fact that they use even track boots with which they can barely move a few steps that look at me with attitude no more than friendship but challenge. They all seem anxious to show that they are worthy of access to the world superbike (discussed but not a fan of the motorcycle gp) and this makes me regret the times gone when to buy a motorbike served first of all passion and then money.
 
Perhaps I can give you a personal interpretation of the fact that often by greeting people who meet on the street these do not respond to be they scooterists I have bikers. I have had a motorbike since I was 8 years old (a minimum of cross) then growing I passed to the fifty, to the 125 (I had the future aprilia of 1990) and finally I arrived to the "maxi". the first motorcycle with four cylinders and at 4 times I was able to allow working hard at the age of 22 years and I was speaking of distant 1997. in that period we were in few to have a motorbike in the garage and popular prejudices apart I remember that in my Sunday exits if I saw a service area with 10 motorcycles I was sure to find 10 new friends. then the times have changed has arrived the general well-being and at the service station I find young people of 20 years intuited with clothing racig and underline racing indicating the fact that they use even track boots with which they can barely move a few steps that look at me with attitude no more than friendship but challenge. They all seem anxious to show that they are worthy of access to the world superbike (discussed but not a fan of the motorcycle gp) and this makes me regret the times gone when to buy a motorbike served first of all passion and then money.
I agree with you, especially with regard to the sbk. Then, like I said...
...certain, today the number of means in circulation has increased to dismeasure but perhaps, proportionally, menefreghism has increased.
forgetting perhaps to say that today, despite all crying for the crisis, naughty kids wear supertechnical clothing, they ride monsters from beyond a cv to kg and often unfortunately, they sway against walls or trees. but for this they must thank Pope who opens the copious wallet and releases 20,000 (when enough). and what do we expect, that when they cross we salute? They don't spit on us.
(for now I am forced to scooter, but the baby will grow. ..
It will be as you say that, except the first wasp had with the diploma (but with the sacrifice of the parents), the rest I had to buy myself.
We're like dinosaurs, dodo, monk seal... extinct or almost.
 

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