archicad o revit? - archicad+applicativo o revit+3dmax?

[magro]

hello to all I hope I have not already wrong space. It's the first message I send on this forum.
I joined the forum with the hope of finding an answer or at least valid opinions on choosing as a revit or archicad software. are creative designer (at least I think) and designer. work in the building field, but I also like design, I like drawing in general and representation of things. I will have to work in the future in team and then interface with strutturists and planters.
opinion I have on archicad is that it is not accurate in the layout of objects in virtual space as autocad.
I know that I cannot compare autocad and archicad, one is generally used as a tecnigraph and the other as a solid modeler for the architettira, but the questions I ask myself are these:
"archicad or revit? archicad+application or revit+3d max?"

It is not clear to me how to communicate within the forum in a pertinent way respecting the common rules of common sense dictated by the ammnistrator.

 

[Tristan]

the only sensible answer you can give is: download the trial versions and see what you find best. revit and 3ds max do not turn on mac

 

[magro]

I also thought about downloading their demos.
My question, however, dear tristan remains at least for now not evaded.
I do not intend to empower anyone for his subjective answer, but as already happened I would like to have an opinion, two, three ..... I can only thank those who would like to answer.
I read that some of us believe that revit is more complex, but more flexible than archicad, able to meet more advanced needs.
I can remember this statement because it corrupts my previous assertion.
My opinion is that revit generally allows a more efficient exchange of information among the workers of the work (architectural, structural, plants, etc.). someone will think: "then what you ask, buy revit"... and that's what I would do right now instinctively.
in the next few days I will ask other colleagues and then I will decide.

 

[enri]

I think there is a sales solution that with revit, at the same cost they also give you autocad, which is a great thing, but tristan is more updated on this.
revit is certainly much more flexible than archicad, especially on complex forms.

 

[magro]

I used archicad until version 14 and to design terraced houses and to make decorative renderings seemed to me sufficiently valid. I don't know version 16 and I don't know if it's adopted important innovations than previous versions.
archicad did not satisfy me when I wanted to insert personal objects into the model and when I made the stairs.
I liked archicad in the management of the boards, but it seems to me that revit also has a similar procedure and I seemed to see that it better manages the geometry and more customizable than the construction elements.
I'd be for revit, but I'd like to spend my money better.

 

[Tristan]

If you don't want to get out there is also the lt version of revit...

 

[magro]

I presume that Tristan shares my opinion and I thank him again.
but maybe it's not worth spending twice.
what do you think of the points already mentioned and below:
1- custom objects and their orientation or inclination to the vertical axis
2- Precision
3- parameterization inserting elements and their control
4-board printing
5- Input tables and oles
and it would be appreciated if someone wanted to emphasize other than me not considered.

 

[Tristan]

Tables and packages

revit this is not able to do it. . .

 

[magro]

I think I'm orienting on archicad: I'm trying version 16 and I have 28 test days.
from the comparison that I could do with the limits of my skills I think that archicad is easier to use and more compact in the management of work (drawing 2d, rendering, printing tables, tables, etc...), but revit seemed more powerful (does better scale bodies).
would be better for integrated design, but general every professional has its own design mode and hardly cares about the model of another all together.
It will look like a stupid request:"... I can't make a section walk through the path of a spline curve line that allows me to make a wave roof..." (see drawing below). I've been trying with Archicad 16 for a day, and I think it's a cabbage. Thank you for helping me.