autocad or other software for complex carpentry machines and structures

[Enzolog]

and you know but you have to redesign the individual pieces:biggrin:

 

[MarcoBi]

I believe that the author of the post represents a company that works on "committee" or under the conditions in which the repetitiveness of the layout is limited and therefore where the need to remodel a part of the system is however recurring.
the list of materials or distinct bases is not represented by the washers or the gears of a given assembly but by macro-components type redler, hoppers, carpenters of support etc., in practice of the assemblies to be arranged in a layout and for which it serves the outline and not a mechanical assembly like the one that the constructor of the individual pieces does, perhaps with inventor, sw or pro-e.
in this case autocad represents a good compromise and perhaps with a little practice and organization you can get to a discreet productivity.

 

[Enzolog]

I understood how to insert the files

 

[Enzolog]

I believe that the author of the post represents a company that works on "committee" or under the conditions in which the repetitiveness of the layout is limited and therefore where the need to remodel a part of the system is however recurring.
the list of materials or distinct bases is not represented by the washers or the gears of a given assembly but by macro-components type redler, hoppers, carpenters of support etc., in practice of the assemblies to be arranged in a layout and for which it serves the outline and not a mechanical assembly like the one that the constructor of the individual pieces does, perhaps with inventor, sw or pro-e.
in this case autocad represents a good compromise and perhaps with a little practice and organization you can get to a discreet productivity.

He's in my own condition, only that we manage much bigger and more varied layouts.
I give you a very stupid example:
if I have to make a sheet folded to "c", autocad users must (devo) draw the c with its thickness and measure the interiors to draw the development in the plane (very approximate if you do not know the rule of the neutral zone), the users who draw directly in 3d with the metal sheet environment in this case, have already designed the c in 3d and automatically export all the dxf for cutting, seen not to do the profile
I see a lot of difference, but it can also be that I'm wrong not having done any work like this yet.

 

[MarcoBi]

He's in my own condition, only that we manage much bigger and more varied layouts.
I give you a very stupid example:
if I have to make a sheet folded to "c", autocad users must (devo) draw the c with its thickness and measure the interiors to draw the development in the plane (very approximate if you do not know the rule of the neutral zone), the users who draw directly in 3d with the metal sheet environment in this case, have already designed the c in 3d and automatically export all the dxf for cutting, seen not to do the profile
I see a lot of difference, but it can also be that I'm wrong not having done any work like this yet.

I repeat: if you design and build a product for which you use mechanical processing and, why not, sheet metal processing, maybe with automatic machining centers and you have a high repetition, then you buy a solid modeler with its sheet-metal package, and you build your model, set (with also practical tests) the various elongation coefficients and then you can play infinitely with the parameters developing all the necessary figures.

but, if the components buy them from the market (filters, tanks, hoppers, etc.) and what you do is assembly in a more or less complex layout that represents in your know-how along with the selection of components, then you can quietly use 3d autocad. Of course, if you don't find the models on the supplier's website (or don't give them) you have to model everything based on the dimensional data sheets you have. and you will need to model them by profiling the sheets already "piegate" because autocad does not allow development operations in plan etc.
In any case many manufacturers today make available 3d models of their production (reducers, piping components, valves, etc.).

 

[Enzolog]

I repeat: if you design and build a product for which you use mechanical processing and, why not, sheet metal processing, maybe with automatic machining centers and you have a high repetition, then you buy a solid modeler with its sheet-metal package, and you build your model, set (with also practical tests) the various elongation coefficients and then you can play infinitely with the parameters developing all the necessary figures.

but, if the components buy them from the market (filters, tanks, hoppers, etc.) and what you do is assembly in a more or less complex layout that represents in your know-how along with the selection of components, then you can quietly use 3d autocad. Of course, if you don't find the models on the supplier's website (or don't give them) you have to model everything based on the dimensional data sheets you have. and you will need to model them by profiling the sheets already "piegate" because autocad does not allow development operations in plan etc.
In any case many manufacturers today make available 3d models of their production (reducers, piping components, valves, etc.).

I apologize Marco, maybe I misunderstood...
I thought I understood that the author of the post as we planned and built tanks, filters, hoppers, various machines, screws, elevators, conveyor belts, presses, pressure silos, support structures, pipes, guillotine valves and those who put it more.
if he only needs the layout is fine all lol even the sketch on the paper millimeter hehe

 

[BIMchecker]

hello enzolog, hi marcobi

the two models you have inserted as image are structures that you can model without any difficulty with carpentry software like tekla strucad etc. getting almost automatically all the drawings and surely automatically all the distinct

 

[Enzolog]

hello enzolog, hi marcobi

the two models you have inserted as image are structures that you can model without any difficulty with carpentry software like tekla strucad etc. getting almost automatically all the drawings and surely automatically all the distinct

Hello, bim,
Taking into account that what I posted is only a filter, i.e. an "accessory drop" of a whole plant containing at least thirty machines, would be a manna from the sky if we had such a tool in the company.
the filter in question for example counts "only" 98 dxf designed and peeled one by one and is the simplest machine in absolute :frown:

 

[BIMchecker]

Hello, bim,
Taking into account that what I posted is only a filter, i.e. an "accessory drop" of a whole plant containing at least thirty machines, would be a manna from the sky if we had such a tool in the company.
the filter in question for example counts "only" 98 dxf designed and peeled one by one and is the simplest machine in absolute :frown:

my comment was related to the geometry and type of construction of the structures.
it would be to try but I think that the amount of elements is also not a problem. to me it happened to manage with tekla models with more than 100,000 parts without detecting big slowdowns.