ball and mounting quotas

[Fabio24]

Good morning to all
I would need clarification because I did not find any legislation on this, if in a drawing together the various assembly or control quotas are indicated, can these be intersected by the reference lines of the ballpoints?
thanks to who will answer

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

there is no rule in this regard except that the design must be readable,
as well as for the odds that it is recommended not intersect, but that it is impossible to avoid it on a design that is not a trivial plate with 2 holes, also for the bubbles it is difficult that do not cut some quota.
I would say that a good rule is to draw a line between the bubble and the terminal of the director, if the movement is not immediate and fluid reason us above and put the bubble as close as possible to the object to indicate.
a bubble too far means that the look must remain focused on the director too long with the risk of losing concentration for the thousands of reasons that are present in the workshop
if the director is broken too many times the look is lost having to start again
if the director crosses too many entities it is confused.

 

[wert]

I imagine you will not have the space for an extra view (or two) where to put only the assembly quotas and leave the ball to the explosive and other views, if necessary. When I started working, the saving of the drawing card was an imperative... in addition to the time you used to draw "unnecessary" things... today with the cad and pdf, you can do an a0 also to put on the table a group for which, 40 years ago, was enough an a3...

 

[PiE81]

I imagine you will not have the space for an extra view (or two) where to put only the assembly quotas and leave the ball to the explosive and other views, if necessary. When I started working, the saving of the drawing card was an imperative... in addition to the time you used to draw "unnecessary" things... today with the cad and pdf, you can do an a0 also to put on the table a group for which, 40 years ago, was enough an a3...

definitely today there is less need to save space and time to create an extra view is negligible. in principle I agree with what you say, being in this case a problem of readability (if indeed it is so) on ball/quote.
On the other hand, I think it is important to try to minimize the number of necessary views.

 

[wert]

definitely today there is less need to save space and time to create an extra view is negligible. in principle I agree with what you say, being in this case a problem of readability (if indeed it is so) on ball/quote.
On the other hand, I think it is important to try to minimize the number of necessary views.

the number of views will always be directly proportional to the complexity of the component. must always prevail the rule of clarity; I for example never use to put quotas on dotted lines. . I prefer to make a partial section more, to give priority to clarity.

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

or for example I never use to put quotas on dotted lines

You mean they represent hidden elements? no hidden elements are listed by law

 

[wert]

You mean they represent hidden elements? no hidden elements are listed by law

When I started working, I was having trouble... but also without consulting regulations but using only common sense, you get the same to understand it... Speaking of regulations, do you use the "==" symbol in the symmetrical quotas compared to the half-car?

 

[Fabio24]

thank you all for the answers. it is true you could well make an extra view only for the ball, but by many it would be considered wasted time, generally nobody does it. where I work all share the hidden even if it would not be correct.

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

Speaking of regulations, do you use the "==" symbol in the symmetrical quotas compared to the half-car?

Unfortunately it is because when I used the cl a supplier called me to ask me what it meant.
It's wrong, but I can't waste time responding to suppliers or going to the workshop talking to the welder just because nobody did some training.
when I made third-party drawings, I followed the customer's instructions I specifically asked if he wanted the == or six he wanted the cl.

 

[wert]

thank you all for the answers. it is true you could well make an extra view only for the ball, but by many it would be considered wasted time, generally nobody does it. where I work all share the hidden even if it would not be correct.

Wasted time? mah... since we talk about assemblies, the view/e for the pallination you have to do regardless; what I say is to add the views for the mounting quotas. with any cad 3d worthy of this name, we talk about a time that can go from 2 to 5 minutes. investing that time for the clarity of the design does not seem a waste. different is if you work in 2d pure... but at that point you have wrong forum...

 

[wert]

Unfortunately it is because when I used the cl a supplier called me to ask me what it meant.
It's wrong, but I can't waste time responding to suppliers or going to the workshop talking to the welder just because nobody did some training.
when I made third-party drawings, I followed the customer's instructions I specifically asked if he wanted the == or six he wanted the cl.

Excuse me, but tell me what legislation does the use of cl refer to?

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

Excuse me, but tell me what legislation does the use of cl refer to?

I honestly don't remember. I know you supplanted the word ==.
if discussed on the forum

 

[wert]

I honestly don't remember. I know you supplanted the word ==.
if discussed on the forum

According to me, cl is not a normalized symbolism, equal to = =....

 

[Fabio24]

Wasted time? mah... since we talk about assemblies, the view/e for the pallination you have to do regardless; what I say is to add the views for the mounting quotas. with any cad 3d worthy of this name, we talk about a time that can go from 2 to 5 minutes. investing that time for the clarity of the design does not seem a waste. different is if you work in 2d pure... but at that point you have wrong forum...

Wasted time meant for all colleagues not for me that I like to take care of the tables. he thinks that I usually set up the sampling because the automatic ones are often wide or in the same sense. and all my colleagues say it's not necessary.