catwalk regulations

[Fulvio Romano]

a customer buys one of those overhead walkways (two stairs connected by a catwalk) to dig a production line. It is not an access to the machine, so I would exclude the en iso 14122. but it is not even a portable scale, so the en 131 is to be excluded.

There is a tag made to the caxxo, missing the ce mark (which however for example for the en 131 is correct that there is not), is reported a limit load "uniformly distributed" and not a number of people.

How do I assess compliance?

 

[Cristallo]

but this load evenly distributed to what amounts?

 

[gil]

ciao
One thing?

probably you’re in front of the usual product “I have my mind that it’s good at doing everything, that then so important that it’s a stuff you throw up”.

I do not see why the uni en 14122 should not be respected, even if it is not direct access.

but also wanting to think so, then it falls in dm 14/06/1989 and ntc2018, that is one should consider it a civil parapet, like the classic communal staircase to mean, or the private staircase of home. which implies, in addition to the marking, even more stringent parameters (of the parapet type in traversible from a sphere of 10cm of diameter).

I am not an expert on norms, but I don't think you can do anything higher than 2 steps, without a crumb of documentation.

even the portable scales a minimum of accompanying "card" must have it. even the peppine scale of the leroy merlin has at least one declaration of confromity with instructions of usehttps://www.leroymerlin.it/catalogu...+4-gradini-per-lavori-fino-a-4.7-m-33694171-pOkay stuff that's funny, like, "don't go up 2 people at a time," or "check that it's not broken before we go up," but there must be.

 

[Fulvio Romano]

but this load evenly distributed to what amounts?

200kg a subway board.

 

[Fulvio Romano]

ciao
One thing?

exact

probably you’re in front of the usual product “I have my mind that it’s good at doing everything, that then so important that it’s a stuff you throw up”.

I do not see why the uni en 14122 should not be respected, even if it is not direct access.

If one wants to use the rule that he prefers, but if I am not making a machine I am very free to use standard and harmonized by that directive.

 

[gil]

I think some documentation has to be there. that then the owner lost it or burned it counts little.

as I wrote above if even the peppine scale must have a document, I do not see how it is possible to avoid it.

 

[Cristallo]

I'm sorry, why consider it as a "machine"?
As gil says, I can self-build it (only that I have already taken it here).
if it is not equipped with leaflet or accompanying certification, what do you throw it?
200kg/mq is the standard overload of a civil loft.
How much is the time in "mmax"? qu elle picture octaves for walk width
therefore means that the maximum concentrated force in the center can be mmax / light.
from this you can realize how many "people" max can climb us up, in the most burdensome condition.
Let's say the catwalk is 1m wide.
means that if you ring all the people in line on the catwalk, you can put 2 people from 100kg/cad (beautiful to satisfaction) every m of walkway. one every 50cm (one of 100kg 50 cm occupies them... more:d)
therefore it would also be verified with the total occupation of all people in row.
remains the parapet question, whose norms as gil says are stringent (intraversibility, heights...).
but it is necessary to frame the category of the object, its use (temporaneous, occasional etc.)
a scaffold does not have an untraversible railing, yet it is in accordance.

here a catwalk like that, suspended at a ceiling of a television studio (so public employees). on red bars the omini can hang 500kg for each point, even contemporary. .

 

[gerod]

If it's not part of the car, it means it's not covered by the c. but you can still design it according to the technical standards you choose. It's a catwalk that doesn't need marking unless it comes back in 1090.
I would like to ask the Commissioner whether he is a member of the Commission.
is not a portable scale so there is no compliance to Legislative Decree 81/08 and/or 131.
If they give you a marking with a plate, I'd say it's okay.
Paradoxically, if the car was marked there and the scale belonged to the car, how do you know how much it brings? the norm tells you, but it is often not indicated in the staircase or catwalk. So, you have a reach and it should be okay.
Hi.

 

[Fulvio Romano]

If it's not part of the car, it means it's not covered by the c. but you can still design it according to the technical standards you choose. It's a catwalk that doesn't need marking unless it comes back in 1090.
I would like to ask the Commissioner whether he is a member of the Commission.
is not a portable scale so there is no compliance to Legislative Decree 81/08 and/or 131.
If they give you a marking with a plate, I'd say it's okay.
Paradoxically, if the car was marked there and the scale belonged to the car, how do you know how much it brings? the norm tells you, but it is often not indicated in the staircase or catwalk. So, you have a reach and it should be okay.
Hi.

Okay, now it's all clear. Thank you very much.