configuration catia sheet metal molds

[Biagio57]

hello to everyone, I'm bizarre, I made my presentation a couple of weeks ago, I'm a sheet mold designer of almost every industry.
my problem is the following, I wanted to switch to 3d design for the automotiv sector also with catia v5 (currently project with visi) but after asking some suppliers the estimate, I had different answers on the type of configuration to use, (part+part assembly etc).
my question to those who already use the catia v5 product is as follows: according to your experience, for the design of the sheet moulds for the automotiv sector, what is the best configuration, and any bookcases, I also find that for the development of details with complex chain geometries does not offer any solution confirmed to me? .
Thanks for your answers, I hope I can return. :smile:

 

[peloritano]

we take care of design and construction of sheet molds of the automotive industry. . .
we use catia and practically having 8 stations we use almost all modules.
I can tell you that for the design the basic modules are the part the product and shape for the surfaces... of course other modules are used according to the needs of the moment.. for bookcases (I suppose you refer to the standardized used in the molds) you find them directly from the manufacturers who make available iges for every type of detail. . . .
When you're referring to complex geometries, I suppose you're referring to the maths of coatings or bones... in this case I tell you that catia is frighteningly powerful and also simple (always if you know how to use it well) to build/modify any kind of surface however complex

 

[Biagio57]

hairitano, thanks for the prompt answer, definitely useful.
confirm that to draw molds is enough part design? in addition to the shape module (all or some parts), if you can be more precise (maybe asking who of your colleagues designs molds) I want to avoid spending money uselessly, suppliers also sell you what you don't need.
for complex geometries I refer to those that you have rightly emphasized, but I intend to have the development (although approximated) of these details, is it feasible to import mathematicians and then to make development?
greetings to calabria, my land of origin

 

[peloritano]

I don't understand what you mean. I'll explain, my company has "heavy shoulders, and investment has been heavy especially in terms of licenses. for the design serves as a minimum part lo shape and product... I still don't understand how to develop complex surfaces.... maybe you're referring to setting up a surface to get the initial brush??? in this case catia is not suitable (it would be to put on the floor a surface of snervata sheet) in this case you must resort to a fem software and we use autoform of which I speak absolutely wrong

 

[wjmat]

Hi.

we are also in the same field and also we work with faces and from a year we have taken a license of catia, and exactly shape, part and assembly for the product.
currently catia is used mostly for conversion and displaying external designs that are 70% in catia v5
we will go on working with visi because now the road has been taken but for some operations on the tar surfaces it is almost obligatory to pass
for developments the progress module of visi is not bad, catia has other commands that I do not know well and as properly signaled by hairitano, the best development comes from simulation software

Hi.

 

[Biagio57]

thanks to both for the answers that have clarified in part my doubts, certainly not because of you.
I agree that visi is great for design and also for the development of sheet metal, catia for the development of imported geometries I do not think it works.
other important consideration, when customers expressly ask for cat design, they do not accept other types of cads, even with designs converted into various formats, so you are forced to work with what they ask you, exactly what is happening to me.

 

[wjmat]

At the end of the project, we also have to go out in step with visi and recreate a product with catia:

 

[falonef]

But why don't you get a good demo from the dealer and tell him exactly what you want to see in cv5? I have read in the various answers some inaccuracies. but not being active in your automotive industry ppteei wrong, but the pachetti with automotive solutions are not to be confused with the recommended working environments. an address: www.cadland.it

 

[peloritano]

thanks to both for the answers that have clarified in part my doubts, certainly not because of you.
I agree that visi is great for design and also for the development of sheet metal, catia for the development of imported geometries I do not think it works.
other important consideration, when customers expressly ask for cat design, they do not accept other types of cads, even with designs converted into various formats, so you are forced to work with what they ask you, exactly what is happening to me.

not only do you have to provide a cat made product but you have to be careful also to the shape to give to the tree of features...... catia has problems working with imported geometries as well as they have all the cad.... If you learn how to use it, I think it's so powerful that many cads on the market