allumi
Guest
Hello, does anyone know if in topsolid cam environment you can copy a cam file in another cam file?
thanks in advance for those who can give clarifications.
thanks in advance for those who can give clarifications.
PopeYe
Guest
Maybe you better explain what you really want to do... maybe you want to copy the work? keep the piece and replace the m.u.? add another piece on the same m.u. ? insert solids of a file.cam?
copying all the file is impossible since then you would have 2 m.u. which ultimately are the ones that command the file...
probably the things you want to do you can get otherwise...
copying all the file is impossible since then you would have 2 m.u. which ultimately are the ones that command the file...
probably the things you want to do you can get otherwise...
allumi
Guest
I need to program some pieces for example 3 pieces a different
from the other and individually for which I will produce 3 different cam files.
after I need to work these 3 pieces simultaneously in the same
machine, clearly I would like to exploit the programming generated for each single piece, combined in a single cam file.
work, work and even propagate as these are
operations that run within a file progamation. My
objective is having different cam files join them in a single one and of course make to topsolid the order of the tools translation of origins etc.. In essence I want
avoid managing these files through any editor (notepad, topedit, cymco). Thanks anyway for the attention, I expect any other clarification also because I seem to have understood that you know well the programming cam.
a last thing, if topsolid is unable to do this, is there any other software that can do it for example catia?
Thank you again.
from the other and individually for which I will produce 3 different cam files.
after I need to work these 3 pieces simultaneously in the same
machine, clearly I would like to exploit the programming generated for each single piece, combined in a single cam file.
work, work and even propagate as these are
operations that run within a file progamation. My
objective is having different cam files join them in a single one and of course make to topsolid the order of the tools translation of origins etc.. In essence I want
avoid managing these files through any editor (notepad, topedit, cymco). Thanks anyway for the attention, I expect any other clarification also because I seem to have understood that you know well the programming cam.
a last thing, if topsolid is unable to do this, is there any other software that can do it for example catia?
Thank you again.
PopeYe
Guest
question ... why do 3 different files when you can do one?
I think this soft. you know a little, some cams are one of + powerful and complete.
you have to make the pieces in the same file by defining the pieces as single pieces, after which you go in operation -> configuration -> order ... then asks you if you want to order the operations per piece, for origins, etc... and the game is done.
be careful that doing this does not exist the undo therefore always take a look at the list of ops before confirming.
other method to have the single file post is to temporarily disable the other 2 pieces without erasing them ... part -> edit ... (also for an appropriate + simulation).
other method is still configuring the post exit ... operations -> programs ...
as you see topsolid from many possibilities also to do the same thing.
with other cams also + blasoned certain things you dream, then maybe in the specific do something better ...
Since it is still a long time that I do not use it at the 'top' ascertained if there are no other roads ... since it is a soft. in continuous evolution.
I think this soft. you know a little, some cams are one of + powerful and complete.
you have to make the pieces in the same file by defining the pieces as single pieces, after which you go in operation -> configuration -> order ... then asks you if you want to order the operations per piece, for origins, etc... and the game is done.
be careful that doing this does not exist the undo therefore always take a look at the list of ops before confirming.
other method to have the single file post is to temporarily disable the other 2 pieces without erasing them ... part -> edit ... (also for an appropriate + simulation).
other method is still configuring the post exit ... operations -> programs ...
as you see topsolid from many possibilities also to do the same thing.
with other cams also + blasoned certain things you dream, then maybe in the specific do something better ...
Since it is still a long time that I do not use it at the 'top' ascertained if there are no other roads ... since it is a soft. in continuous evolution.
allumi
Guest
Hi, I try to explain better: the files that I have to program are about 200 and each file includes several operations so I think it would be difficult to program them all within a single file, not impossible, but difficult in the sense that using the levels I could view the piece or more pieces, the problem becomes the management of the nesting operations in the sense that they would become about 1000 or maybe more and know that when it has to manage more than a hundred operations, with pieces that measure at least 1000x1500x30, and maybe a repulse
On the contrary, if I program 200 pieces one per file then I put together 4 or 5 pieces so, if I could, I would copy the 4 or 5 relative files in one file, this would be the objective. It is therefore obvious that in a single file I would manage only the programs relative to the 4 or 5 pieces and not of the 200 that would be present.
thank you, however, for your answers, I appreciate it because they help me find alternatives.
greetings
On the contrary, if I program 200 pieces one per file then I put together 4 or 5 pieces so, if I could, I would copy the 4 or 5 relative files in one file, this would be the objective. It is therefore obvious that in a single file I would manage only the programs relative to the 4 or 5 pieces and not of the 200 that would be present.
thank you, however, for your answers, I appreciate it because they help me find alternatives.
greetings
PopeYe
Guest
However, since you talk about nesting I know that you use the sheet module and not the cutter (of which I was speaking) should be similar, as at speed you have to learn how to use it well, for example it becomes very + fast if you disable the control of the axes racing or the update of the solid.
1000 op. on the sheet I don't think it is worth 100-150 of cutter (of which several in 3d) as I have been able to perform.
However if I understand well, you would like to program all the pieces, then perform together only the ones you want and in the quantities you want, probably for having more flexibility in the work.
If that's what you want to do, the cam (any) doesn't come in great help, apart from programming.
on flexible working centers to do this you use management programs, once loaded all programs you define the pieces to work, the quantities, the origins, the pallets etc... this allows you to work together small batches of different pieces in different quantities.
1000 op. on the sheet I don't think it is worth 100-150 of cutter (of which several in 3d) as I have been able to perform.
However if I understand well, you would like to program all the pieces, then perform together only the ones you want and in the quantities you want, probably for having more flexibility in the work.
If that's what you want to do, the cam (any) doesn't come in great help, apart from programming.
on flexible working centers to do this you use management programs, once loaded all programs you define the pieces to work, the quantities, the origins, the pallets etc... this allows you to work together small batches of different pieces in different quantities.
SoluzioneTOP
Guest
Good evening allum, if I understand correctly you asked:
"On the contrary, if I program 200 pieces one per file then I put 4 or 5 pieces together, so if I could, I would copy the 4 or 5 relative files in one file, this would be the objective. It is therefore obvious that in a single file I would manage only the programs related to the 4 or 5 pieces and not of the 200 that would be present. "
Could you explain yourself better so maybe an idea comes to me too
.....or, why do you ask to copy files already with loops in a single file and then get a unique iso...it would not be enough to copy cad first in a single .cam file and then calculate the paths?
ps: about the "fatigue" of ts on files with about 1000 operations....you would know what cam software would not tire?.... what pc? :
"On the contrary, if I program 200 pieces one per file then I put 4 or 5 pieces together, so if I could, I would copy the 4 or 5 relative files in one file, this would be the objective. It is therefore obvious that in a single file I would manage only the programs related to the 4 or 5 pieces and not of the 200 that would be present. "
Could you explain yourself better so maybe an idea comes to me too
.....or, why do you ask to copy files already with loops in a single file and then get a unique iso...it would not be enough to copy cad first in a single .cam file and then calculate the paths?ps: about the "fatigue" of ts on files with about 1000 operations....you would know what cam software would not tire?
.... what pc? :allumi
Guest
hi, I do not intend to copy the cad files into a single file because I want to create for each cad file its cam file, then copy in one cam file, choosing at will the cam files created previously.
the difference between putting together the cad files and then creating the relative cam and making a cam for each cad file is that I can arrange in different combinations the cam files, while on the contrary creating a cam file relative to a set of cad files I have only one fixed cam file inherent to the set of cad files. so apparently there is no difference, but now I give you an example: supposing I have to make some nestings composed of different cad files, for each nesting I will make the relative cam file for which each cam file will be related to your nesting, now suppose to mix the nestings by changing the number of pieces or even a few pieces in each nesting (the reason is dependent on the work you have to do) at this point I am forced to recreate again the cam files for each nesting, which instead having a unique cam file
If you have any idea, she's welcome.
thanks for the answer, hello
the difference between putting together the cad files and then creating the relative cam and making a cam for each cad file is that I can arrange in different combinations the cam files, while on the contrary creating a cam file relative to a set of cad files I have only one fixed cam file inherent to the set of cad files. so apparently there is no difference, but now I give you an example: supposing I have to make some nestings composed of different cad files, for each nesting I will make the relative cam file for which each cam file will be related to your nesting, now suppose to mix the nestings by changing the number of pieces or even a few pieces in each nesting (the reason is dependent on the work you have to do) at this point I am forced to recreate again the cam files for each nesting, which instead having a unique cam file
If you have any idea, she's welcome.
thanks for the answer, hello
SoluzioneTOP
Guest
...here...as I suppose
the problem that you are experiencing is due to the fact that today still a nesting file is not integrated with the cam environment ... in regard I would suggest you to pazientare a bit since in a few months version 6.11 ...who knows? ? ! !
the problem that you are experiencing is due to the fact that today still a nesting file is not integrated with the cam environment ... in regard I would suggest you to pazientare a bit
since in a few months version 6.11 ...who knows? ? ! !paul-ince
Guest
you could try importing individual cam files using the function from the menu:
part->propagation-> part- > floor plan
part->propagation-> part- > floor plan
allumi
Guest
hi, I believe that you have centered the solution, in fact I have tried passing from the menu "part--->propagation---> part-up- > piano" I can copy a cam file in another and it brings together also the work that was what I wanted. now I have done a test and I am trying to copy on origin some work and it seems that it functions, unfortunately propagate after the second operation copied, if in
However, I thank you very much because I think you have identified the right solution for what I meant to do.
for now I just hope to solve the problem of fatal error.
Thank you.
However, I thank you very much because I think you have identified the right solution for what I meant to do.
for now I just hope to solve the problem of fatal error.
Thank you.
paul-ince
Guest
In fact, that of the fatal error is a problem I have encountered too!
it seems that the most you can do is to order the processing within the cam file assembled.
I had pointed out the problem with assistance, but today the problem has not yet been solved.
I still use this type of file management for a portal mill that outlines and drills plates, and I got used to:
-use only the finished (without generating a crude),
-do not optimize the holes in the original file (no matter even),
-order the operations and immediately generate the iso file (when you close it, it is not said that the file will reopen!!!).
it seems that the most you can do is to order the processing within the cam file assembled.
I had pointed out the problem with assistance, but today the problem has not yet been solved.
I still use this type of file management for a portal mill that outlines and drills plates, and I got used to:
-use only the finished (without generating a crude),
-do not optimize the holes in the original file (no matter even),
-order the operations and immediately generate the iso file (when you close it, it is not said that the file will reopen!!!).