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[Merq]

hello to all, the discussion is not technical, I am interested in having more than another opinion.

I have a three-year degree in computer engineering now but I would like to look at the world of 3d graphics and deepen the technical design with cad tools.
1) Does it make sense to start now (I am 24 years old) or is it too late?
2) you who do, I presume, professional graphics (for architecture, interior design, advertising, etc) what path of studies have you faced? degree of study? Master, various courses?
3) is there enough job offer or is it a difficult sector where you struggle to 'field'?

Thank you very early

 

[Ilario]

it is never too late.... if you put good will, strong passion and commitment go wherever you want.. .

the title of study in the graphics field does not have such an important thickness as it could have for the technical design (that also this is not entirely true, with the factors I listed you first go where you want anyway). I am technical mechanical industries, I make the mechanical designer and for a few years now devoted a lot to 3d graphics also architectural (not design architectural works, but make them).

The job... Well it depends a lot on what you want to do exactly, technical design pearls, graphics and design, they are different fields.... it also depends on your "geographic location" like I am of ferrara and here at the graphics level there is not much... then it depends.

 

[Merq]

Thanks for the answer.

I am of Milan and I would like to deepen the technical design, regarding mechanical components of various types, machine tools, robots, automation industry in general, etc.
I have seen that sometimes they also look for technical designers of schematics (electrics, plumbers, etc.) even that would be good if I wanted.

then talk to aside, intrigues me the 3d graphics, which for me means: rendering of scenes, interiors, exteriors, special effects, computer graphics for video games, rendering of cars, fantasy environments, and whatever comes to mind and can realize.
without mounting my head obviously I don't think I have professional outlets in this sense, I think it more a way to unbalance the imagination, while learning 3d graphics programs like 3d studio or similar.
I've done something in the past, but nothing serious.

Ultimately, my idea is:

- to work as a technical designer in the areas I mentioned at first
-learn for pure hobby 3d graphics (3ds, maya, etc) and maybe in the future....make it become a profession

clearly as already said, I start from zero (or almost) so I would like to understand whether the idea is sensible or not, taking into account also my current training.
as a programmer/developer I come to search under the house at times....but over time I realized that it is not my way, I did not want to throw away 20 exams so I gave the remaining and I graduated (computer engineering level, I repeat)

Thank you.

greetings

 

[Ilario]

if you want to throw yourself on the world of technical drawing (mechanical or ellettric) starting from scratch you have to do so much experience (and will and passion) on the field and (parlo of mechanics more than anything) in workshops producing companies etc... where he learns the tricks of the mestire and then applies them to the computer (I think it is difficult to find a good mechanical designer who did not get dirty or who does not still wear his hands).

if you want to throw yourself on the graphics, even here it takes so much experience, but in this case you just need a computer and internet (and will and passion) and the experience you can do it yourself by following tutorials, buying books, documenting and passionate about images and photography.

now depends only on what you prefer.... 24 years are not so many, but starting from zero for a whole new field needs a decision because for both things you will have to do several years of "gavetta".... then you can always do both in an approximate way, also this depends on you, but then it would lose as your job..... .

I would say that you can do what you want, there is everything (crisis permitting).

Another thing I feel to tell you is that to make the designer or enter a mechanical workshop you're more easily hired indefinitely, for the world of graphics you'll have to do so many years from freelncer, which doesn't mean to work for free, but graphic studies have the tendency to hire p.iva collaborators or as external ones with contracts for project or occasional performance. . .

This is what is in my experience, it is not oror colalto, but it is what life, until now, taught me about these two types of work.

 

[Merq]

thanks for the answer
the main problem that I have noticed, reading a few job ads as a technical designer is that they require, beyond the title (typically mechanical expert/engineer but not a must), experience in the industry, knowledge of software (solid edge, solidworks, inventor, etc)...all requirements that at the moment I do not possess.

now I have two roads in front of me:

- I'm going to keep another 2 years from my parents and in the meantime, I read books on technical/mechanical design, I learn software cad, etc.
This solution is the most...paraculo...that I honestly don't want much. even because money has already spent several of them and they do not conceive of my basic contradiction.. If I've done computer science, I have to go to computer science, which has to do graphics,drawing?! Too bad it's not so linear. At least for me.

-work as a worker/technician in some mechanical workshop or company that produces components and in the meantime study for my facts, in the hope that, being graduated cmq, it does not remain for the whole life "to the assembly line" but that I am offered the opportunity to do training courses, or other to deepen the technical design and to do a little more career.

thanks and greetings

 

[incasinata]

I'm sorry if I allow myself, but how come you don't "do" computer science?
Two of my colleagues are ing. IT (three-year degree as you)....and are always obligated to work.
considering your interest in the "graphic"/modeling...etc etc. you could take care of your own "graphic" programming. ...

 

[Merq]

I'm sorry if I allow myself, but how come you don't "do" computer science?
Two of my colleagues are ing. IT (three-year degree as you)....and are always obligated to work.
considering your interest in the "graphic"/modeling...etc etc. you could take care of your own "graphic" programming. ...

generally a computer engineer is hired to develop software that means: program application, graphical interface, database, web services, dynamic site development, etc., etc.
These are "pure computer" jobs we say.

then there is development/programming for plc, expired environment,etc tied more to industrial automation, plant control, etc.

the most "graphic" design as technical design (components, plant schemes, etc.) is aimed, generally, towards mechanical engineers/electrics

cmq your colleagues what exactly they do? company for which they work or cmq sector?

Thank you.

Hi.

 

[incasinata]

cmq your colleagues what exactly they do? company for which they work or cmq sector?

Thank you.

Hi.

they deal with graphic "development"......therefore programs, scripts, codes (or as they are called....all those diavolerie" :biggrin to make life easier to us arch. and ing. for the development and visualization of cartography, 3d models, reliefs...etc etc.

 

[Merq]

they deal with graphic "development"......therefore programs, scripts, codes (or as they are called....all those diavolerie" :biggrin to make life easier to us arch. and ing. for the development and visualization of cartography, 3d models, reliefs...etc etc.

umh still "puzza" me programming. ...:

stupid example happened to me in his time to c++ and direct3d graphics libraries (direct x).
It's "graphic" programming... but it's programming! write code and see the result, load models, polygons, etc. but you have to write code pages.
And it doesn't go too far... I mean if I have to do it to camp, I'll do it for how long? and with what satisfaction?

My goal is to reduce the use of the keyboard and increase the use of the mouse:tongue:

cmq thanks for the advice

 

[lattu]

If you're from Milan, you shouldn't be having trouble inserting yourself as a graphic designer. However considering that there are few who take without experience, I suggest you do at least 1 year in a workshop as an apprentice to understand how you think, in the meantime you download a little trial and you miss out on choosing the software that seems more intuitive and you try to lay the foundations. At this point you could look for a place as a mechanical designer in a company that allows you to attend courses. acquired a sufficent familiarity you might consider putting yourself in your own.

In my case I studied from geometra but I am not qualified to the profession, I am passionate about virtual graphics and while passing from one technical study to another I began to take confidence with autocad and 3dmax. After 2 years I opened the game iva. In my area there is not much work (in fact, there is nothing at all) but I still have 2 big contacts that keep me busy anyway.
this for me is not one of the best times, but I would not change for anything in the world.

 

[Merq]

I just found out that there is a design & engineering graduate degree program at the Polytechnic, I saw the orientation file... attached!
practically is the fusion of 3 distinct paths: industrial design, mechanical engineering and material engineering.
Obviously having condensed in 2 years there is less program, then one can choose which of the three sectors to focus more on the choice of courses, exams,etc

sin that there is no hope that I will be admitted to that specialized degree.. .not having a "background" typical of those coming out of the design faculty. You know, I got it in that.
Of course I can't do a three-year job and then two years of specialization. ...so I think I will follow your advice, after being prostrated and kneeling in front of the commission that selects access... .

in any case I have seen that as a sector is quite lively and developed, especially in Milan, because the design/engineering of product not only from the formal point of view but also functional/technical includes practically anything: from furnishing objects, components for industry, clothes, constructions, means of transport, etc.,etc

Last thing: I hope only, after a first step of watering, not to be exploited heavily (as pesso happens...) for years and years without ever having the opportunity to redeem my title or acquire a professional and competence that allows me to make more career.
in a few words, I am willing to bang (I graduated by doing the volunteer in ambulance with evening and night shifts) but I sincerely hope not to remain "to the assembly line" all my life.


thanks to all