enri
Guest
That's the challenge.
I suggest ds to bring the level of costs to that of rhino. :
I suggest ds to bring the level of costs to that of rhino. :
The_Matrix
Guest
the fact that pro/e is the undisputed "re" to the engines is a legend.. .
It's fine, for love, indeed, maybe it's the best... but:
bmw uses catia
gm uses nozzle
fiat uses nug
ford uses cat
nissan uses nug
daimler used catia and will use ug
chrysler used catia and will use ug
renault uses catia
honda uses cat
... who uses pro/e in the automotive (cars) for engines?
- psa
- toyota
- hyundai
- vw/audi
The_Matrix
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in general, a comment that I feel I do is related to "knowledge win" and "knowledge" with dignity and honor.
we have never caused our competitors... (I write here from "private citizen"I do not make text, of course).
if you read the statement ds to comment of the choice daimler is at least emblematic. . .
first I say "sometimes it's better to shut up and appear jerks rather than open mouth and prove that you are" (cit)
. .. ..This decision is a surprise for the slaughter systems, as no evaluation of catia v6 n has been carried out by daimler a.g.But how? but if it is known from all that there was a benchmark and the solution "full v6" was rejected.
the company has informed dassault systems that as the portfolio of applications cao is not its priorityah, is cad no longer a priority? ?
data management products (developed internally) smaragd. that is based on teamcenter.. .
For the time being, Dassault systems do not have any information on the specialised catia applications that would be replaced, or on those that would continue to be used by daimler a.g.
ma vaaaaaaa.... :finger:
we have never caused our competitors... (I write here from "private citizen"I do not make text, of course).
if you read the statement ds to comment of the choice daimler is at least emblematic. . .
first I say "sometimes it's better to shut up and appear jerks rather than open mouth and prove that you are" (cit)
. .. ..This decision is a surprise for the slaughter systems, as no evaluation of catia v6 n has been carried out by daimler a.g.But how? but if it is known from all that there was a benchmark and the solution "full v6" was rejected.
the company has informed dassault systems that as the portfolio of applications cao is not its priorityah, is cad no longer a priority? ?
data management products (developed internally) smaragd. that is based on teamcenter.. .
For the time being, Dassault systems do not have any information on the specialised catia applications that would be replaced, or on those that would continue to be used by daimler a.g.
ma vaaaaaaa.... :finger:
Tequila
Guest
you know how it is now trying to diminish the matter so that it does not affect itself as a tsunami on all other large companies that have ds products to make sure that there are no further migrations from caia to nx or enovia to tc and away.
in any case compliments, hoping that the grana mountain that zimens will bring home is well invested in improving their products more and more.
in any case compliments, hoping that the grana mountain that zimens will bring home is well invested in improving their products more and more.
The_Matrix
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personally I wouldn't have made a "official" statement... Better shut up and work, believe me.
on your other hope "hoping that the grain mountain that zimens will bring home is well invested in improving their products more and more"... you know, the requirements of a large automotive company are not always those of a small user.
cacciatorino
Guest
more than anything else we hope will not discard the so-called acquisition of the genre (there will be made of unbelievable discounts) on the chain of suppliers, which having no choice will have to buy the software at full price. . .
Matteo
Guest
I think a cad is worth the other day: if the problem was just the cad, any car manufacturer of the top 5 in the world if it could develop it alone in 2 or 3 years (or buy an existing cad spending less than for the development of a new car platform).
the competition is in proposing a system as much as possible "global" or as is said in the environment an instrument "product life cycle": in this sector There is no doubt that siemens proposes the most complete and integrated package so I can only compliment and recognize its current superiority over all manufacturers. in second place (and first until recently, put ptc).
said this, I also have doubts:
the competition is in proposing a system as much as possible "global" or as is said in the environment an instrument "product life cycle": in this sector There is no doubt that siemens proposes the most complete and integrated package so I can only compliment and recognize its current superiority over all manufacturers. in second place (and first until recently, put ptc).
said this, I also have doubts:
- the words "better nx or proe or catia" do not make sense. is not the cad as we mean it users to make the difference
- it is not said that the point of view of the car company that chooses a certain product also in view of "common operations" with other companies (common platforms... I prefer to say "cartelli") coincides with that of the user who would like more quality, innovation, performance, competition
- on the opposite front (small companies looking for "a tool" not a "system" plc) the commercial policy of siemens is irritating
- Are we sure that bonding in total (all the design/productive cycle) is "wise"? do large companies not risk becoming "obstaged" of the manufacturer of the "system" plc? (attention that siemens is a "closed" world in the field of machine tool control and in some ut I happened to start feeling a little discontent (maybe in the commercial office is different!)
ceschi1959
Guest
I'm really happy. Congratulations to all!!!:finger:daimler chose nx+tc, for product and process data design and management.
all new mercedes will be designed with our software.
pride comes from 2 things:
1) the "love" I have for u...
2) from the contribution given to the team daimler both with our experience and passion, and supporting fiat during the reference visit made by daimler here.
for once the Italians were not those of the "pizza, mafia and mandolino", but those of the "fare" instead of the "parlare".
http://www.plm.automation.siemens.c...se.cfm?component=117697&componenttemplate=822It's an epochal turn, guys. the first German oem is "fall".... and this after that:
... gm after an intensive benchmark preferred nx+tc to v6
... nissan chose nx+tc
... fiat you know what he uses
... vw has chosen tc and nx is in valuation
... ford chose tc
Let me enjoy this moment... successes so Captain a few times... and I am proud to have been somehow "part of the game".
the matrix aka ugoverall aka beppe. -
The_Matrix
Guest
Thanks baskets!
matfio
Guest
..but boys always to polemize on everything.... now that you can stap a bottle.
always happy for everything, alive siemens, alive nx and above all alive . ....:finger:
always happy for everything, alive siemens, alive nx and above all alive . ....:finger:
The_Matrix
Guest
Good. . .
Thank you. :finger:
fab69
Guest
Sincere congratulations, I am sure that you and your team will have given more than body and soul to make it.
also, double occasion lost by ds: one, the customer; two, accept that a competitor product is superior, and be done to improve your own.
Finally, sin, I can use caia, I can no longer send a cv to daimler! ;-)
also, double occasion lost by ds: one, the customer; two, accept that a competitor product is superior, and be done to improve your own.
Finally, sin, I can use caia, I can no longer send a cv to daimler! ;-)
The_Matrix
Guest
we have obviously contributed with experience on fiat, best practices etc... we also had active part for the template part and sheet molds.
Well, learn nx (toh, it takes 2 weeks) and go to work the...
Team3d
Guest
I join the chorus of compliments and being part of the game I think we will benefit everyone.
even if maybe sometimes the Germans treat us badly (see mafia, pizza and mandolin) then however to build the molds come also from us and this can only do well at the market of nx. nx will not be higher than catia on everything... but it is not even lower as many try to make believe... and the data begin to confirm it. we say that we struggle very much for the brand of nx (ex unigraphics) to be more and more popular in Italy. great beppe to you and your men for support given to fiat that helped support the cause!!! !
legendary! !
even if maybe sometimes the Germans treat us badly (see mafia, pizza and mandolin) then however to build the molds come also from us and this can only do well at the market of nx. nx will not be higher than catia on everything... but it is not even lower as many try to make believe... and the data begin to confirm it. we say that we struggle very much for the brand of nx (ex unigraphics) to be more and more popular in Italy. great beppe to you and your men for support given to fiat that helped support the cause!!! !
legendary! !