doubt about engineering

[giuto]

Hi, I'm a mechanical engineering student, and I'd like to ask you about this faculty. visiting the forum I noticed that there are many competent people who could clarify some doubts about too much.
the question is this: to make mechanical engineering you have to be a slender, that is people who are passionate about mounts etc. and that even when they were young they were passionate about changing the scooter? Do you have to have some sort of "vocation"?
For example I like the idea of designing a machine, dimensionaling a component so that it does not break etc. say I like to make calculations
Moreover I have always been interested in physics and mathematics and the idea of applying them to do something concrete attracts me. But here I have no particular passion to disassemble and reassemble the engines..
we say that I think a good choice to study mechanical engineering but certainly not a vocation or a passion I have always had

 

[cacciatorino]

the question is this: to make mechanical engineering you have to be a slender, that is people who are passionate about mounts etc. and that even when they were young they were passionate about changing the scooter? Do you have to have some sort of "vocation"?

It's not fundamental but it helps a lot if you want to be a designer, especially in the early years when the experience is still little.

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

I had already asked the same question

 

[meccanicamg]

already seen is question.
If you're prone, you'll probably become an engineer. If you're not inclined, you'll become an engineering graduate....to do is not equal to being.

 

[meccanicamg]

if you want to make the mechanical designer you have to know before welding, of plates, of wire welder who implants and fills the nozzle supply wire, of helical tips....that the hand affiliates and that you did not understand how never it cuts out completely and whistles, of tips that you can molar free hand and thin the core to have such an operating chip... .

 

[meccanicamg]

If you like to make calculations you could become a fem specialist....in a dedicated sector, usually oil valves.... you only undertake one thing, you become expert, you take some money and as soon as they can replace you with a young man who costs you less do.
However, you could put yourself in your own and build a program for measuring and checking mechanical components. ..build tools for your colleagues who are in a hurry and do not want to break dances with derivatives and integrals. . .

 

[giuto]

Thank you for responding... and how do I know if I'm prone?

 

[meccanicamg]

Take a bubble level and see which side she hangs... .
I understand your existential doubt, because then giving up half is bad.

sectors are so many where you can or you want or you find yourself working.

engineers who have the passion for something manual, drilling, assembling, building from semi-finished, disassembling objects (electricity, big and small motors etc.) usually see engineering as a source to learn how to build machinery, plants where there are gears, engines, pulleys, carpenters, jacks, cylinders etc.

who is passionate about motorcycles, cars, has built a cart or similar he finds himself working for car manufacturers, studying suspensions, brakes, presses for sheet molding. Maybe specializes in making calculations, pushed fems etc.

who likes physics and mathematics can end up doing fem, strutturista, fluidodynamic etc a little further from practice but essential to experimental fields or anyway where it is necessary to study more in detail the phenomenon.

Anyway, you have to figure out what you want to do.

there are those who then work and projects for power plants, thermal power plants, turbines, insurance companies or consultants for the iso or similar things.

 

[meccanicamg]

all the above said, is because it normally works like this:
- you are a designer/designer/chief technical office
- you are in a company where there is the design office and workshop manufacturing and assembly
- They call you in the workshop because:
1) have wrong a hole as size or you have wrong design indicating its characteristics: Do we tap with threaded bar and loctite? Shall we go up? Are we going to see helicoil? there is to understand the features of the function, recalculate and make changes to the design
2) carpenters are stunned and milling operations do not go out. What to do? spy on different sizes and restore with a shaving sheet? mill so much, weld new plate and rework? Is that okay? welding involves additional deformations especially on milled pieces almost entirely....finiti...maldizioni... I'm building it again? Who pays it? Is there time to do it again? if the technical office has considered only 2 mm of overmetal from the crude is impossible to respect on large carpenters.
3) the wrong commercial component has arrived. What to do? Do we change the pieces? Can we? Is it still working? We put the commercial component back in the factory and make it change? Do they give it to us after too long? Who's wrong?

normally in complete companies it is necessary the problem solving also for complex things where not only the mechanical designer must put us hand but sometimes it must decide also for hydraulic and electric. I'm going through the pipes. I'm moving this.

If you want to make the engineer please note that this is ordinary life in manufacturing companies where everything is inside.

other example:
- we buy a reducer from trade and guarantee certain performance at some cost
- the competitor gives us a smaller to equal performance
- Who cheats?
- it is necessary to analyze and make accounts of objects using catalog, experience, data interpolation and to understand who of the two says the true

 

[Stan9411]

all the above said, is because it normally works like this:
- you are a designer/designer/chief technical office
- you are in a company where there is the design office and workshop manufacturing and assembly
- They call you in the workshop because:
1) have wrong a hole as size or you have wrong design indicating its characteristics: Do we tap with threaded bar and loctite? Shall we go up? Are we going to see helicoil? there is to understand the features of the function, recalculate and make changes to the design
2) carpenters are stunned and milling operations do not go out. What to do? spy on different sizes and restore with a shaving sheet? mill so much, weld new plate and rework? Is that okay? welding involves additional deformations especially on milled pieces almost entirely....finiti...maldizioni... I'm building it again? Who pays it? Is there time to do it again? if the technical office has considered only 2 mm of overmetal from the crude is impossible to respect on large carpenters.
3) the wrong commercial component has arrived. What to do? Do we change the pieces? Can we? Is it still working? We put the commercial component back in the factory and make it change? Do they give it to us after too long? Who's wrong?

normally in complete companies it is necessary the problem solving also for complex things where not only the mechanical designer must put us hand but sometimes it must decide also for hydraulic and electric. I'm going through the pipes. I'm moving this.

If you want to make the engineer please note that this is ordinary life in manufacturing companies where everything is inside.

other example:
- we buy a reducer from trade and guarantee certain performance at some cost
- the competitor gives us a smaller to equal performance
- Who cheats?
- it is necessary to analyze and make accounts of objects using catalog, experience, data interpolation and to understand who of the two says the true

I don't think that if as a kid you've been snooping with scooters, you've benefited in making these decisions, unless you really got back and fried in the garage. to me it seems things that you can learn with patience and humility starting to work, regardless of whether as a kid you enjoyed doing the frestore, the footballer, tennis player or the jockey.

 

[Stan9411]

If you want to be a mechanical designer, you must know first.. .

How do you know first? if you have had the chance you are definitely avant-garde but from here to say that it is fundamental .. it is as if a surgeon before choosing medicine must forcibly have made sutures on organs. .

 

[meccanicamg]

How do you know first? if you have had the chance you are definitely avant-garde but from here to say that it is fundamental .. it is as if a surgeon before choosing medicine must forcibly have made sutures on organs. .

You have to understand that before you are a designer you will need to be a designer and before that you will be a technical apprentice designer.
You do the trick, learn how to manage things, learn how the world turns and make you the proper experience, with time you can make the designer.

you do not enter the world of work to make the designer if you are fresh from school.. .unless recommendations. But poor people.

do not believe that then "it arrived" because you never end up.

the surgeon before putting himself to work, goes around with the primary to understand how the sick are, then does some medicine and administration of drugs....poi when he is able to work in teams and after different experience he is able to be autonomous and specialized in his work practice.

so either by force or by love if you don't want to be any gun where the workers give you for your professional inability it's better than you do a pipe.

 

[meccanicamg]

I don't think that if as a kid you've been snooping with scooters, you've benefited in making these decisions, unless you really got back and fried in the garage. to me it seems things that you can learn with patience and humility starting to work, regardless of whether as a kid you enjoyed doing the frestore, the footballer, tennis player or the jockey.

If certain things breathe them as a child....do first grow because you have formed some experiences before time.
Keep in mind that the companies that form and want to follow you there is very little... look around.

 

[Stan9411]

You have to understand that before you are a designer you will need to be a designer and before that you will be a technical apprentice designer.
You do the trick, learn how to manage things, learn how the world turns and make you the proper experience, with time you can make the designer.

you do not enter the world of work to make the designer if you are fresh from school.. .unless recommendations. But poor people.

do not believe that then "it arrived" because you never end up.

the surgeon before putting himself to work, goes around with the primary to understand how the sick are, then does some medicine and administration of drugs....poi when he is able to work in teams and after different experience he is able to be autonomous and specialized in his work practice.

so either by force or by love if you don't want to be any gun where the workers give you for your professional inability it's better than you do a pipe.

now I agree from the first to the last word.. It is that from previous posts it seemed essential to have done this trick even before enrolling in engineering. Unfortunately not everyone has this vocation already from very young people, but I think that "limiting" to do the trick since you start working or through internships and internships, you can still achieve your professional goals.

 

[LIFE]

the practical sense I believe helps a lot, it takes talent, a sort of vocation, many want this degree to have a position and are also convinced that it will be given, I don't think it is so it takes humility and above all real experience not fake. I agree on the speech of companies that form little too because everyone wants someone ready to give and not receive.

 

[PIETRO2002]

I fully agree on what you have written!
Unfortunately, the world of work has changed, I think worse.
I had the luck, after having done a little bit of watering in the workshop, to enter the technical office as a particularist and I was flanked by designers "coi baffi" who taught me the tricks and for my part I put the passion to learn and after 40 years I am still curious as a child.
Today they look for young people, graduates with a lot of experience and cost a misery!
They find them, hire them, and put them in a canopy abandoned to themselves. . Unfortunately, the majority of companies are headed by fools with a lot of graduation that doesn't know which side it's turned! but we are positive, as in all things of life, you need passion, humility, curiosity, tenacity to get where you want and so much patience to endure the "stools" and as Dante said.. don't care about them but look and pass!

 

[marcof]

if you want to make the mechanical designer you have to know before welding, of plates, of wire welder who implants and fills the nozzle supply wire, of helical tips....that the hand affiliates and that you did not understand how never it cuts out completely and whistles, of tips that you can molar free hand and thin the core to have such an operating chip... .

I don't agree.
an account is knowing how to make four cocks in your garage, an account is to be:

• a lather who does it
• a miller who does it
• an operator of cnc machines that makes it work
• a foundry technician who does so
• a carpenter working folded and calandrate sheets making it a craft
• a welder who does it
• a professional editor
• ....

I could continue all the activities that run out of the factory of any product that comes to mind.

you don't need to know what the stripping amngolo has to be and the grinding parameters of a helical puinta and the rest of the issues that the machine operator knows a thousand times better than you. you, who are the designer, must indicate to the guy in the workshop that diameter will have that hole and with what tolerance. that is your job, and if someone has to make an estimate of the working times of a set of holes or milling, it will be good that I go to ask down in the workshop to whom the chips make them all day avoiding to shoot figures on advances and mm/turn "a lot to the sandvik catalog"
to tell the welder how big the weld cord, of what kind, in how many passes etc you do not need to know how to make four castrons with the wire sander you use when you do the gate of the house in the mountains, you who are the designer you need to know what type of welding you need and why and indicate it on the design that the welder should perform.

all these things you learn them not because you've handed out at 14 years with the scooter or with the spoiled washing machine, you learn them because you're in contact every day with those who know how to do it, so you'll accumulate the experience you need to make the least possible woman the foundry technician who in all past years taught you, he to you, because you don't have to carry the drawings with certain unrealizable solutions from the point of view. to the fact that it is certainly fulfilling, having the passion, being able to never take in hand a key and a hammer, because your practical experience, if you knew where to properly draw information (which is also almost a craft), will always be indirect. your job is to know how long, wide and often that piece of iron must be, and already so of work and responsibility there is enough I would say.

so to return to the initial question, for me it does not need a bat to have cuffed with the carburetor of the bike, it is necessary to have the passion to learn a certain discipline that juggling sees involved tens of different professionalism.

 

[meccanicamg]

I think everything is connected. is a mentality, a way of living and learning.
I have experienced many things at 14 years of age by providing, drilling, welding, dismantling engines, binding little theory to such practice. Unfortunately, no one followed me and so many things I discovered them from me, since the workshop was my...private... for me and to learn.
experience helps. If you're used to getting your hands dirty as a young man, then when you're at work you understand that it's essential to go down to the workshop and take the two pieces that you made wrong, take the right micrometer, see what happened and remedy.

If you're used to reasoning as an operative, you keep doing it at work. If you're waiting for me to do everything at work, you're late, and you're not saying you're a career. Perhaps you will change jobs often because you are not adequate, besides the fact that companies do not train you and do not follow you.

It is not indispensable to know what to do but it is indispensable to understand from what world and in what world you go to work.

 

[Matteo]

do not ask questions about the faculty, but on the point of arrival: an engineer is a person who will be asked to solve a problem (technical usually "inventing" a solution from some (sometimes many) constraints (costs, times, resources, realizeability, structural resistance, performance). this is the charm but also the difficulty of craft... If it fascinates you and does not scare you, it might be your way: but it is a more complicated road than the average of the professions.

 

[LIFE]

I agree with matteo it is necessary to bring solutions not further problems, unfortunately the attempts and mistakes cost and indeed a master of company money to give it does not have, the engineer is a person who solves problems and creates solutions then the sectors are the most diverse, however returning to the initial question if you like the science that the technique passes to chemical physics or mathematics, or specialized with a doctorate. I have to say that even there the outlets are many and the work there is even if you do not become researcher, obviously you must be really good, I have met a graduate in physics director of establishment, and a chemical engineer with the doctorate who designs oil and gas plants, among other things a really smart person (so personal experience)! However the common place of the scooter that transmits knowledge of mechanical technology never passes fashion! even marcof does not miss the technicians know it and surely they will tell you about their job, but understand why of their work they do helps not to get teased, he certainly did not wander around unravel the secrets of their job that gives them to eat, often you will have to judge the work of others and will be ready to bugerarti (to speak for direct experience). conclusion engineer concrete figure and technique connected with reality business, and people, if you feel more lab rat passes to the scientific field. every professional figure has its own because and importance and above all equal dignity! quiet disassembly the scooter does not make the future gigi from the imprint, to do that I think it takes the will to learn that costs sacrifice and above all does not make rich!! !