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[MauroTC]

[posto qui: mi pare la sezione più indicata, semmai non fosse qualche moderatore la sposterà...]Hello.
I try to make some doubt about it, hoping that there are those who know a little more than me the matter.

we say that he wants to patent my idea (treatment of a “use model”, as defined technically).
to deposit the patent in Italy it seems should suffice a sum total quite modest: 120€.
but I find out (beautiful ignorance) that this patent is only valid in Italy; if you want to extend also abroad the figure to be put into account rising enormously and I think I have read birth from 3000€, plus a tot depending on the states where you want to extend this patent.:mixed:

Now the matter escapes to me, but if so, does it mean that if I find who wants to produce and market my equipment in Italy, then a pole pin any, in germany or in the use or in the wool, which sees it, is free to reproduce and market it freely?

If so, I wonder, what would it make the question only in Italy?

 

[MBT]

made sense when globality did not exist
makes sense if you invent something that only works in Italy.. .
otherwise.. coverage at least europea

 

[MauroTC]

made sense when globality did not exist
makes sense if you invent something that only works in Italy.. .
otherwise.. coverage at least europea

I understand (I better have had confirmation):
would be 120€ thrown:frown:

 

[cacciatorino]

I understand (I better have had confirmation):
would be 120€ thrown:frown:

but is it a software? because in Europe soft patents are (not known until) unenforceable.

It costs less to register a brand, but I don't think it's your case.

 

[MauroTC]

but is it a software? because in Europe soft patents are (not known until) unenforceable.

It costs less to register a brand, but I don't think it's your case.

No no hunter,
This time I devoted myself to another:tongue:, it is an equipment.

 

[Focus]

Keep in mind that the Italian patent office does not research, so, while spending little, you risk patenting "hot water".

Hi.

 

[riccardot5765]

hi, as I also came across the world of patents and had the same doubts. First of all I tell you that it does not cost only 120 €, but for the forwarding of the practice and all other related matters the price leave. consider then that once presented you must also keep it, which is other money. When submitting the application, the drunk does all the investigations of the case and, in the event of a negative outcome, the motivations are also indicated. you will then have 6 months (but I am not sure) to be able to resume the application, bringing the due corrections.
for copyability there are 2 aspects. the first is that anyone in any country outside the patent can copy it. the second concerns the object itself. We put for example that the equipment has a cylinder of 20cm, it will be enough to make the same equipment but dimensioned differently not to violate the patent.
Finally, it is preferable to present the patent through a specialized law firm, having 2 advantages. the first is a precise assistance in a matter that is all clear and simple. second, the guarantee that in the case of positive outcome is your paternity.
If you want, with a little more time, you specify all the costs.

 

[gianlucap]

If you can give me so many info, I would be grateful to you, since at the moment I would like to patent an object that I think is very useful and that is still not on the market.

Thank you.

 

[zpaolo]

the second concerns the object itself. We put for example that the equipment has a cylinder of 20cm, it will be enough to make the same equipment but dimensioned differently not to violate the patent.

we say that this is the first indication that the patent offices of large companies give: do not indicate numerical values "too precise" or too stringent constraints, so as not to facilitate the additiveness of the patent. better always indicate range, relationships or functional indications

Palo

 

[MauroTC]

I also had another curiosity about the application of the patent for a given territory.
If patent we say at European level, what am I protected from?
But if one outside these borders copies, can you produce it outside and come to market it also in Europe?

But I should have found the answer on the internet:
(sing) http://www.mannuccibrevetti.it/faq_ita.htm)
...Consequently, it allows to pursue both the production that takes place in the protected territory, as well as the import of counterfeit products in that territory, i.e. the production intended solely for export. protection also extends to propedeutic activities or in any case linked to the sale, such as advertising, offer for sale, exhibition at the fair.

 

[MBT]

I also had another curiosity about the application of the patent for a given territory.
If patent we say at European level, what am I protected from?
But if one outside these borders copies, can you produce it outside and come to market it also in Europe?

But I should have found the answer on the internet:
(sing) http://www.mannuccibrevetti.it/faq_ita.htm)
...Consequently, it allows to pursue both the production that takes place in the protected territory, as well as the import of counterfeit products in that territory, i.e. the production intended solely for export. protection also extends to propedeutic activities or in any case linked to the sale, such as advertising, offer for sale, exhibition at the fair.

correct correct correct
Careful! the patent does not prevent anyone from building and nobody watches over patent respect. to be precise, sometimes it is not even checked that a patent "proposed" violi or overlap with other existing patents.
It could, by no means, happen that someone patents the sling or hammer:
in the first pages of the patent declares what is the "current state of art" and what is its patent
to give you an idea... Look at me. google patents

 

[cacciatorino]

correct correct correct
Careful! the patent does not prevent anyone from building and nobody watches over patent respect. to be precise, sometimes it is not even checked that a patent "proposed" violi or overlap with other existing patents.
It could, by no means, happen that someone patents the sling or hammer:
in the first pages of the patent declares what is the "current state of art" and what is its patent
to give you an idea... Look at me. google patents

from what I read, this is quite typical of the use, where if I understood well the patent offices are private companies and therefore stimulated to patent everything possible, then leaving the applicant the burden to prove that it is "known technique". In fact there are people who patented the double click and the computer basket.. .

 

[MBT]

we generally patent worldwide
so the first step is an accurate search of "what has already been patented".

 

[bebeto]

...... the second concerns the object itself. We put for example that the equipment has a cylinder of 20cm, just do the same equipment but dimensioned differently to not violate the patent............. .

excuse but this cannot happen with foreign patent
The examiners are exhausting and if they do not find a real improvement, your application is not accepted.

 

[bebeto]

from what I read, this is quite typical of the use, where if I understood well the patent offices are private companies and therefore stimulated to patent everything possible, then leaving the applicant the burden to prove that it is "known technique". In fact there are people who patented the double click and the computer basket.. .

boh to me it happened exactly the opposite, in use I always came across with very rognosis examiners (justly) like European ones.