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[solid3d]

hello to all I have a problem in sw2010 I created as a sheet an omega to which I added holes and sunshades now I should raid it on the base with a radius of 300mm how can I do?
Is it better to build it in already folded sheet and then with the command to stretch the holes or is it possible to bend it later?
Thank you.

 

[sampom]

hello to all I have a problem in sw2010 I created as a sheet an omega to which I added holes and sunshades now I should raid it on the base with a radius of 300mm how can I do?
Is it better to build it in already folded sheet and then with the command to stretch the holes or is it possible to bend it later?
Thank you.

you should be able to bend it later.. depends on how you modeled it.
test with Sketch bending.

Maybe post the file or an example pattern, let's see that you can do it.

greetings
Mar

 

[solid3d]

hello thanks for the answer, in practice I have to get as result this (see picture 1)
starting from a straight omega bar made of sheet metal (see image 2) giving it a bending radius based on about 500mm. Hi.

 

[sampom]

hello thanks for the answer, in practice I have to get as result this (see picture 1)
starting from a straight omega bar made of sheet metal (see image 2) giving it a bending radius based on about 500mm. Hi.

Forgive me but from those microphotographies I do not see (and I do not understand) anything:biggrin:
Where is the omega section?
and such omega do you build it as a bending machine or what?

However, from what little I can "imagine" (don't see, because that is not an understandable design..) I think you are asking something unproper for a normal die-cutting process and possibly roll-over from sheet metal (because that's what allows to do the sheet metal of swx).
it seems that you do not have to make folds, but to "built" a bar already made; and this is not beating.
think (if you know) how and with what machines you would get that piece in reality: if it is with bending machine and grill (for sheet, no profiles) you can do, otherwise not.

I think you should model it with the normal extrusion/sweep/loft functions without the possibility of obtaining the development of the sheet (always that you can start from a sheet).

That's for the little I understand. .
If you place a technical design "true" and understandable of the finite you want to get we can understand how to get there.

greetings
Marco:smile:

 

[solid3d]

Hello excuse me if I have not been clear then drilling is done when the material is flat then tamite a mold is folded to omega and after it is innarcato, I also place the pictures of in 3d my problem is that in 3d I can do the curved omega but then I struggle to select the work plan to make holes and sunshades.
In practice I wanted to know if it was possible to work the omega when it is still straight and after raiding it. because I tried both to make it curved as solid and as sheet but I can not do the processing of assole and puncture precisely on that curve while on the plane yes, only that after I do not know how to curve it (always if it is possible).

I posted the 2 bigger pictures I hope they're clear and thank you for the help you're giving me.

Hi.

 

[Mike1967]

Hello excuse me if I have not been clear then drilling is done when the material is flat then tamite a mold is folded to omega and after it is innarcato, I also place the pictures of in 3d my problem is that in 3d I can do the curved omega but then I struggle to select the work plan to make holes and sunshades.
In practice I wanted to know if it was possible to work the omega when it is still straight and after raiding it. because I tried both to make it curved as solid and as sheet but I can not do the processing of assole and puncture precisely on that curve while on the plane yes, only that after I do not know how to curve it (always if it is possible).

I posted the 2 bigger pictures I hope they're clear and thank you for the help you're giving me.

Hi.

for the plan, select an existing plan or create one by taking as
reference some entities of your object.
sketch your holes and sunshades on that floor and extrude.

 

[sampom]

Hello excuse me if I have not been clear then drilling is done when the material is flat then tamite a mold is folded to omega and after it is innarcato, I also place the pictures of in 3d my problem is that in 3d I can do the curved omega but then I struggle to select the work plan to make holes and sunshades.
In practice I wanted to know if it was possible to work the omega when it is still straight and after raiding it. because I tried both to make it curved as solid and as sheet but I can not do the processing of assole and puncture precisely on that curve while on the plane yes, only that after I do not know how to curve it (always if it is possible).

I posted the 2 bigger pictures I hope they're clear and thank you for the help you're giving me.

Hi.

Okay, as I imagined. it is not work of dispensing; you must incur a "profiled bar", which is not a sheet/striscia of sheet. and as I explained it is not included in the sheet module of solidworks.

but I asked you what procedure/machine you had in mind to get it (profile omega apart from that you can do by bending). .
enters the perspective that the workshop cycle will be the same (approximately) to use in the cad.. of course as permitted by the cad itself, which does not "do everything" (or better, as a graphic result you get everything but real processes not all; e.g. swx foaming and sheet metal stamping do not do - forming is something else and does not give you development-, you have to model as simple solids).

greetings
Marco:smile:

 

[sampom]

for the plan, select an existing plan or create one by taking as
reference some entities of your object.
sketch your holes and sunshades on that floor and extrude.

Right mike.
but precisely "solid" operations.
for the measurements of the sunshades along the arcuated face use of angle references (simple round holes do them with 3d sketch in the wizard creation).

greetings
Marco:smile:

 

[Mike1967]

you place an image, use the function "flettere" to bend
Your profile.
put this function only after drilling, shoulderure
And what else.

in the default development configuration (which will be present only after placing the table
flat repeat view...) deactivate the flexo function1, so you can export
the dxf file for use in a cam.

 

[Mike1967]

azz, how quickly a quarter of an hour goes... :biggrin:

 

[sampom]

azz, how quickly a quarter of an hour goes... :biggrin:

great and punctual as always mike!:finger:
smart escamotage to exceed the limits of the swx plates.
as always come into play specific experiences and mastery of the "half".

..and as always you never end up learning (even because I never used it like this).

greetings
Marco:smile:

 

[sampom]

azz, how quickly a quarter of an hour goes... :biggrin:

But then, apart from freshly mentioned rays, you go curveprophiles?
I would like to visit you in the workshop, even to have a couple of straight "practices" (with "fly" in hand :biggrin... we have that bending cock with an anti-diluvian control that keeps us turning the bales.

greetings
Marco:smile:

 

[solid3d]

Thanks guys were really brilliant. :finger:

I'll try to do as you told me. :wink:

 

[Mike1967]

Weee... Boys, I'm 23 years old as a metal builder and 10 years old
I'm sorry for solidworks.... pieces like that are the ticket
to visit a carpenter that respects.
I learned to develop cones by tracking them directly on the slabs from
which had to "excite" the pieces.... now that I have a tool
like solidworks, it's a fun...:finger:


@marco... If you're in Switzerland, maybe in lugano... You are the blessed!!

 

[solid3d]

excusez-moi
:smile:

 

[sampom]

10 years
I'm going to stop with solidworks... .

What I said, experience.. I just 2 years old

I learned to develop cones by tracking them directly on the slabs

..eh, once so did it. and you believe that the first time with swx "I didn't trust" and handed it back to the tecnigraph to check? :biggrin:

@marco... If you're in Switzerland, maybe in lugano... You are the blessed!!

I won't miss warning you.

... we have that creaking cock with an anti-diluvian control that keeps us turning the bales.

..and mechanics for me is not good.. Whatever.

By the way, among the various tables is not that you also have the withdrawal values "olare" for pleats much more open than 90° when the elastic return is very evident and the fold is more open than set? In short, the correction/maggioration you give to control.. or your modern ones, if they calculate it automatically? or how do they work? (we impose thickness, material resistance, x axis and angle, ah.. and sheet width, but it seems to do a little as it seems to her)
For aisi 304 sp. from 1 to 5..

the operator goes crazy because he has to pass all the stools.

greetings
Mar

 

[Mike1967]

What I said, experience.. I just 2 years old

..eh, once so did it. and you believe that the first time with swx "I didn't trust" and handed it back to the tecnigraph to check? :biggrin:


I won't miss warning you.


..and mechanics for me is not good.. Whatever.

By the way, among the various tables is not that you also have the withdrawal values "olare" for pleats much more open than 90° when the elastic return is very evident and the fold is more open than set? In short, the correction/maggioration you give to control.. or your modern ones, if they calculate it automatically? or how do they work? (we impose thickness, material resistance, x axis and angle, ah.. and sheet width, but it seems to do a little as it seems to her)
For aisi 304 sp. from 1 to 5..

the operator goes crazy because he has to pass all the stools.

greetings
Mar

Look, I learned with a 300 ton hammer of 45 years ago, numerical control does not even know how to write...:biggrin:

My bender, he bought this http://mecos.webprofessional.it/site/mecos_webprofessional_it/static/pgid9_it.html beautifully controlled by a software called kvara 2002.
as molds, we use those of technostamp http://www.tecnostamp.it/ that have extreme precision.
regarding parameters, my bending machine compensates by a few clicks on the cnc.
apart from the usual retreats calculated with the k factors, we rely a lot on the experience, easier (for us) to explain it. . .
Consider that 70% of our work is on the plates... a beautiful gym!!:finger:

about developments with slwx.. I was printing flat repetitions, scale, and
I cut out the contours and then wrap the paper cone and check the measurements...:mixed:

great solidworks.. .


ps: stainless steel... He thinks that only the sense of kneading makes you change the molding angle. . .
It's crazy if you don't have precise tools.

ps-2: Monday morning I will be in that pleasure to pick up a special set of molds... .
Luckily the company I work in... invest!