extraction designers

[infallibile_GF]

Hello everyone.
I would like to make a premise: This message does not want to offend, discriminate against anyone. maximum respect for everyone, for the professionalism and skills of those who will feel involved. mine wants to be a very general consideration and it concerns my personal experience.
After the premise, I come to the firm, to the substance, to the fat.
in my 25 year long career as a designer and mechanical designer, I changed many companies, many technical offices and consequently I had many colleagues, leaders, collaborators, etc... well, of all these people, the smartest as designers and mechanical designers, those who worked better, who had the best ideas, or who had broad views, with an open mind, even to the ideas of others and mine, or who knew better organize the work of the office, almost never were of mechanical extraction. engineers and mechanical experts, whom I met in my career, have always been the worst designers, while colleagues and leaders, with a different extraction from pure mechanics, have always been the best, with a more open, flexible and available metality. geometri, electronic, electrotechnical, environmental, building, or energy, or even simple scientific graduates, I have always seen them better as designers, than engineers and mechanical experts.
I have always seen a certain arrogance and presumption in my colleagues and heads of mechanical extraction, in carrying out my work. Perhaps they feel too confident of matter and are little inclined to accept ideas of others, unopened in mind, with a narrow view of things.
did you find the same thing?

 

[TETRASTORE]

you can indicate which sector you refer to, for example: components, plants, automotive, automatic machines, transmissions, special machines, etc.?

 

[infallibile_GF]

you can indicate which sector you refer to, for example: components, plants, automotive, automatic machines, transmissions, special machines, etc.?

I refer to the plant sector and special machines, where you generally need some mental flexibility, creativity, quickly find solutions, or to respond quickly to customer needs

 

[TETRASTORE]

I have always seen a certain arrogance and presumption in my colleagues and heads of mechanical extraction, in carrying out my work. Perhaps they feel too confident of matter and are little inclined to accept ideas of others, unopened in mind, with a narrow view of things.

I do not think that this is happening in all sectors because, while sharing the reasons you mentioned, it is necessary to take into account the character of people and the environment in which they are working.
in the beginning of my career I had a mechanical expert office chief, like me, who weighed his experience for which his choices (sometimes questionable) were unbearable. in the following years the property has accompanied him a mechanical engineer who, with his determined and hostile attitude, forced him to resign.
in my work I then met hundreds of technicians graduated, graduates and not, or without titles but with a great experience but, in most cases, they were all people who listened to you and accepted advice and argued without weighing their position.
Then, of course, I also met the expert who from his colleagues called himself with the title before the last name but, fortunately, I have no case to list.
Surely in the few cases that I have found, the title of study gives subjects the right to stay superior to others and waterproof at any suggestion or idea that came from their subordinates or colleagues with lower qualification or in other field.
Unfortunately, these situations must be understood and managed by those who direct it but often this does not happen and generally leads to a high turnover in many mechanical companies.

 

[DrBarde]

I work in the planning, and sincerely more than anything else I have seen this difference at the level of person and not the title of study.
By the way, I know an electrotechnical expert who thinks he's god, and he's always right regardless.
then I met mechanical engineers with a huge availability, and others with a devastating assumption. an outsider who knew all of him, and left a disaster of a level not indifferent.
Now my boss is mechanical extraction, and it is a very high availability. each solution is discussed but never set.

So I have seen it well distributed sincerely, at least until now.

including the tester that if he doesn't want to let go of the car, he doesn't do it until the general manager and the dick goes down, which magically works everything.

 

[Catafratto]

I propose a possible interpretation. . .
may also be a question of "altered" statistical sample, in the sense that: you were favourably impressed by people who decided to change the path they had chosen, they had the flexibility and ability to rebuild their lives (professional but maybe they went even further), they showed their value in a new field for them, however carrying behind a baggage of experience and alternative knowledge that can only enrich. . therefore the champion of people you have known has already been scrambled and the best elements have emerged, those who have succeeded in their personal revolution. the group of colleagues who, on the other hand, followed the chosen path at the beginning has undergone less "discuss", and therefore those who still have the positive characteristics listed by you are simply more dilified in the mass... or they changed the field!

 

[cacciatorino]

I don't have this perception. On the contrary, I have always found myself better with mechanical engineers because they can generally grasp aspects and subtleties that others do not even suspect existence.

 

[stevie]

I don't have this perception. On the contrary, I have always found myself better with mechanical engineers because they can generally grasp aspects and subtleties that others do not even suspect existence.

idem with potatoes. . .
especially having specific skills prevent solutions that lead to a blind alley.

 

[PIETRO2002]

How nice would it be to have a mechanical engineer, who did a technical institute and worked on a lathe and a frieze, but who also has the mental opening of a philosopher or a sociologist... utopia. apart from the jokes, if a technician has to be operational, the bases there must be and the bases are learned at school, it's like building a home, without foundation, collapses. then logically the "soft skills" make you build a beautiful house or a catapult.

 

[meccanicamg]

How nice would it be to have a mechanical engineer, who did a technical institute and worked on a lathe and a frieze, but who also has the mental opening of a philosopher or a sociologist... utopia. apart from the jokes, if a technician has to be operational, the bases there must be and the bases are learned at school, it's like building a home, without foundation, collapses. then logically the "soft skills" make you build a beautiful house or a catapult.

present.
mechanical expert.
I have been home since I was 14 years old my lathe, my column drill, welder, tools of all kinds from workshop.
Mechanical engineer. for several years as an employee I designed and fitted automatic machines. dirty hands on the mouse.
I think it makes a lot of the character of a person but also the theoretical and practical technical background.
especially if you work in team it is good that ideas turn, in ut as open space where everyone can talk and all listen but without doing too much gazzarra.
certainly the theoretical technical extraction allows you to deal with the problem in a scientific and numerical way, which in the end is the only one that shelters you from contests and is to standard.
the idea, the intuition, the proposal, perhaps even saying bullshit, allows to find the shared solution that will take it on the project.
If you're just in ut don't grow up. if you are at least two you need to share.
I also found myself leaders that, simple expert, or engineer afraid to lose the cadregotto from under the butts have implemented infamous and inappropriate ways that led to the loss of my collaboration.
others, at the same time collaborative and open, although older.

 

[Marco F inox]

Hello everyone.
I would like to make a premise: This message does not want to offend, discriminate against anyone. maximum respect for everyone, for the professionalism and skills of those who will feel involved. mine wants to be a very general consideration and it concerns my personal experience.
After the premise, I come to the firm, to the substance, to the fat.
in my 25 year long career as a designer and mechanical designer, I changed many companies, many technical offices and consequently I had many colleagues, leaders, collaborators, etc... well, of all these people, the smartest as designers and mechanical designers, those who worked better, who had the best ideas, or who had broad views, with an open mind, even to the ideas of others and mine, or who knew better organize the work of the office, almost never were of mechanical extraction. engineers and mechanical experts, whom I met in my career, have always been the worst designers, while colleagues and leaders, with a different extraction from pure mechanics, have always been the best, with a more open, flexible and available metality. geometri, electronic, electrotechnical, environmental, building, or energy, or even simple scientific graduates, I have always seen them better as designers, than engineers and mechanical experts.
I have always seen a certain arrogance and presumption in my colleagues and heads of mechanical extraction, in carrying out my work. Perhaps they feel too confident of matter and are little inclined to accept ideas of others, unopened in mind, with a narrow view of things.
did you find the same thing?

You're so right, but they're not all like that, and they're not making any noise.

 

[re_solidworks]

Hello everyone.
I would like to make a premise: This message does not want to offend, discriminate against anyone. maximum respect for everyone, for the professionalism and skills of those who will feel involved. mine wants to be a very general consideration and it concerns my personal experience.
After the premise, I come to the firm, to the substance, to the fat.
in my 25 year long career as a designer and mechanical designer, I changed many companies, many technical offices and consequently I had many colleagues, leaders, collaborators, etc... well, of all these people, the smartest as designers and mechanical designers, those who worked better, who had the best ideas, or who had broad views, with an open mind, even to the ideas of others and mine, or who knew better organize the work of the office, almost never were of mechanical extraction. engineers and mechanical experts, whom I met in my career, have always been the worst designers, while colleagues and leaders, with a different extraction from pure mechanics, have always been the best, with a more open, flexible and available metality. geometri, electronic, electrotechnical, environmental, building, or energy, or even simple scientific graduates, I have always seen them better as designers, than engineers and mechanical experts.
I have always seen a certain arrogance and presumption in my colleagues and heads of mechanical extraction, in carrying out my work. Perhaps they feel too confident of matter and are little inclined to accept ideas of others, unopened in mind, with a narrow view of things.
did you find the same thing?

I didn't get this impression. I collaborated and collaborated with mechanical engineers and did not match any difference. idem with the lost colleagues, there are those who have ideas and skills and who less, but I cannot group them into "categories" or studies of origin, is a subjective thing.

 

[Shotfree]

I think it depends very much on people and you give up the title. I am electrotechnical expert and work in the design of series products (not machines but produced), I have known and collaborated with engineers who "know everything" and engineers who really knew about packages but did not and weigh, listen to what they say and evaluate interesting proposals giving you also merit. wanting to broaden the speech, often the "grade" is weighed by employers who attribute specific skills and skills according to the title of study, in these cases you risk attitudes like those from you and others described (arrogance, people who always have the right answer, etc.).