free autocad for schools

[tizi121212]

good evening to all, I am a teacher, and currently I teach technical drawing to the two-year period of a technical institute. the matter provides 3 hours of lesson per week, one of which is a laboratory, in which we have always done autocad.

for a few months the free “educational” license of autocad has expired, and instead of renewing it, the laboratory technicians of the school have installed the nanocad, saying that the procedure to install autocad at a certain point required the nominatives of the students, impossible to fulfill because the pcs are of the school, and not of the student.

I couldn't verify personally as I'm just the teacher and not the PC manager, so I don't even have the lab PC administrator password.

now with all respect for nanocad, which I learned to use, which is very similar to autocad a few years ago (classical interface), and that until now has behaved very well, I must say that autocad is more complete.

the question is:

is it true that there are all these complications to install the free autocad for schools, or did the technicians tease me?


Excuse me if I left immediately with a question, I promise I will follow the forum and if possible, where I will be able, I will also give some answers.

 

[cacciatorino]

Have patience but why do you teach the boys autocad? is now an obsolete software, passed directly to a 3d, usually just contact local seller and you get it for free.

 

[tizi121212]

Well I appreciate the answer, but it seems to me that autocad is still a standard, at least in most construction design studies.

is one of the few cads recognized by the aica for the ecdl advanced cad.

there are many extensions that turn on autocad for structural design, and probably also for other areas.

etc.
etc.

However, the autocad has spread precisely for this policy, to release free versions for the study. then when you start working, you're forced to buy it.

But now if things change...

 

[cacciatorino]

Sorry, since you were talking about technical institute I assumed it was mechanical cad, where cad 2d is usually an endangered dinosaur. if instead it is a technical institute for geometries maybe autocad still has its usefulness, although perhaps still for a few years.

 

[meccanicamg]

the best thing is to call an authorized autodesk dealer and ask the question. surely you will be able to pass a technician that his can explain the procedure.

 

[tizi121212]

I will try, but I am afraid that they will send me back to the site of the autodesk that does not shine for clarity. Anyway thank you, and I will keep you informed

 

[meccanicamg]

a few years ago an email was enough to send me the installation coduce of autocad of an architectural design studio without making too much trouble....if you find the right person you will have answer.

 

[Tristan]

They told you a half truth.
the floating licensing system (network licenses) was dismissed by autodesk in favor of the "named user" licenses; but this does not mean that the licenses should actually be on the name of the students.
in my classroom courses (I am responsible for training in an authorized autodesk training center) I simply created 20 users called course01, course02, course03 etc.
students do not need to know the access password; they access the software with the login already executed and a two-factor authentication (so they cannot access the user account and change the password at will).
your computer lab technician probably didn't want to bang.. .

 

[DrBarde]

then we still teach autocad... Since in the company (mechanical with production of lines impossible to report in 3d completely because of the relevant dimensions) we now have to do the courses, at our expense because the boys are devoid of training.

said this I confirm that it is possible to have the license linked to the location with the dedicated but not nominal users of the students.

 

[Tristus]

is it true that there are all these complications to install the free autocad for schools, or did the technicians tease me?

It is absolutely in agreement that autocad is an indispensable point of reference, almost compulsory in the case of an institution that among the educational addresses contemplates the teaching of cad.
who offers work in this field asks that you know how to use autocad, not nanocad. because autocad is immensely more widespread and blasphemed like cad, as well as the most complete and professional.

a technician should not be authorized to take this type of initiative, but should follow the instructions of the teachers. He can't overwhelm a didactic path by replacing an instrument as his own self-cad.
said what I think technicians found the most convenient and fast way (for them) choosing nanocad rather than autocad

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

Perhaps the technicians followed the directives of the institute who thought that one cad is worth the other and therefore free is better.

 

[cacciatorino]

It is absolutely in agreement that autocad is an indispensable point of reference, almost compulsory in the case of an institution that among the educational addresses contemplates the teaching of cad.
who offers work in this field asks that you know how to use autocad, not nanocad. because autocad is immensely more widespread and blasphemed like cad, as well as the most complete and professional.

If we talk about geometries maybe yes. I have been working for 25 years in the mechanics I have never seen a company use autocad, and for ten years now it is designed in 3d. And then it would be better to teach the boys to know a pictosto method of work than to head on a specific tool, so a twenty-year-old to pass from software to another takes half a day.

 

[DrBarde]

instead of working for 8 years in the mechanical field (for anagraphic issues, before I could not physically work), specifically design, I bring a totally different experience. 3d and 2d integrate one with the other, since the 3d with a few hundred thousand pieces (one line would occupy a few milionatas) hard work, and you can not miss hours waiting for the cad to make a position update. I find that not teaching autocad (or anyway a 2d) would be and is a very serious sin. from me some institutes no longer teach it, the consequence is that the company must make courses, because people leave graduates without training.

 

[tizi121212]

They told you a half truth.
the floating licensing system (network licenses) was dismissed by autodesk in favor of the "named user" licenses; but this does not mean that the licenses should actually be on the name of the students.
in my classroom courses (I am responsible for training in an authorized autodesk training center) I simply created 20 users called course01, course02, course03 etc.
students do not need to know the access password; they access the software with the login already executed and a two-factor authentication (so they cannot access the user account and change the password at will).
your computer lab technician probably didn't want to bang.. .

Thank you very much.
was what I wanted to know, then I will have to create 30 "school" emails and with reference to these install the autocad on all stations.

 

[liber]

I know of the graduates that when they talk about the software that "they use" they mention autocad, unfortunately autocad also in the full version is not that it is great even if obviously it is very advanced, unfortunately people speak of autocad and just, but what they should integrate are the applications of autocad, starting with raster design, continuing with map 3d, in simple words autocad it is a base where many so in schools maybe you should start with autocad or other similar cad, but not fossilize in it.

 

[stevie]

That's it.

Thank you very much.
was what I wanted to know, then I will have to create 30 "school" emails and with reference to these install the autocad on all stations.

I wouldn't beat my head too much in your place... if this nanocad is more or less equivalent to autocad use that, because I believe that the more complex and specific functions of autocad are still not used in a school course.

 

[Vittorio]

interesting discussion.
if the institute is at a mechanical address.. autocad 2d is obsolete.
are very few small and medium companies that use only 2d
And anyway I agree with stevie. nanocad for a basic course is identical to autocad.
if you can use nanocad.. you will be able to use autocad and vice versa.

 

[Vittorio]

I add my consideration.

What I miss is that the school is still at the stake.
2 or three years ago, in our company, students came, of a mechanical address, to make hours of internships related to the final maturity.
remained based on the technologies found in our company.
at school they still studied the divider and procedure to make a thread on a traditional lathe.
I understand that the past must be remembered, but perhaps we must concentrate on modern methods.
That said, I don't want the professors, for sure Tizi1212 is one of the few with a look towards the future, but so many of his colleagues... .. bring to life.
and what we see on the site cad3d
There are students, with a technical address, who ask quite bizarre questions about the laws that spy on us. especially when they say.. The professor wants it so

 

[Tristan]

What I miss is that the school is still at the stake.[...]There are students, with a technical address, who ask quite bizarre questions about the laws that spy on us. especially when they say.. The professor wants it so

Amen brother.
... is unfortunately so also in the aec sector

 

[stevie]

I add my consideration.

What I miss is that the school is still at the stake.
2 or three years ago, in our company, students came, of a mechanical address, to make hours of internships related to the final maturity.
remained based on the technologies found in our company.
at school they still studied the divider and procedure to make a thread on a traditional lathe.
I understand that the past must be remembered, but perhaps we must concentrate on modern methods.
That said, I don't want the professors, for sure Tizi1212 is one of the few with a look towards the future, but so many of his colleagues... .. bring to life.
and what we see on the site cad3d
There are students, with a technical address, who ask quite bizarre questions about the laws that spy on us. especially when they say.. The professor wants it so

It's always been so...
It is clear from the technological progress of recent years that the gap between "school technology" and the real one has expanded further.
Moreover the funds available in schools are poor, it is already good to have a parallel lathe and a milling machine put even worse... in the computer compartment a nice cad 2d and to spin. . .
to this let us add the fact that many professors draw to life of income on programs 30-40 years ago, where cnc technologies perhaps were presented as something futuristic.
there is also to say that many have too high expectations towards the school.