giitec advance steel

[>Iceman<]

Good morning to all,
Does anyone know graitec advance steel? we had to buy it and I would be very interested to make us two chats because it really deserves a whole discussion of its own! I am a "old" user" of prosteel, but there is no story!!! and why I say it....:finger:

 

[Rudy65]

Hello iceman,
Since you used prosteel and now advance steel, would you tell me what is best in the development of sheets and profiles between the two?
For now I only carry out calculations while for drawings I support external studies using prosteel and strucad. I was thinking about equipping myself, and I'm a little undecided. tekla is also very powerful but it costs too much and I would rather stay in autocad environment. I need a tool that allows me to draw from scale to very complex structure as a bridge.
in another post I entered this link http://www.steeldetailingsoftware.co.uk/best-steel-detailing-software.htmland from what they write it seems that advance steel is considered the best software in the world compatible with a list of requirements.

Hello and I hope you can clarify some doubts

 

[>Iceman<]

Hello iceman,
Since you used prosteel and now advance steel, would you tell me what is best in the development of sheets and profiles between the two?
For now I only carry out calculations while for drawings I support external studies using prosteel and strucad. I was thinking about equipping myself, and I'm a little undecided. tekla is also very powerful but it costs too much and I would rather stay in autocad environment. I need a tool that allows me to draw from scale to very complex structure as a bridge.
in another post I entered this link http://www.steeldetailingsoftware.co.uk/best-steel-detailing-software.htmland from what they write it seems that advance steel is considered the best software in the world compatible with a list of requirements.

Hello and I hope you can clarify some doubts

hello rudi65 and... finally someone who gives me a little straight!! !
Prosteel also develops sheet and tubes, but not very complex and, sometimes, with particular processing, has given me some problem (for example in correctly reporting holes, etc.).
with advance steel nothing happened of all this, it quietly developed me also complex dishes (for example: immediate development of a round square hopper. prosteel does not!!!). also develops curved profiles, in my round tubes, without "baking eyelashes".

I link a video about developments.. . http://www.graitec.com/en/movie_viewer.asp?movieid=86&iframe for the cost of tekla, I give you reason, time ago we had rated it too but it is actually unreachable for our pockets. our advance cost around 5000 but, in my opinion (I also saw the demo of tekla at the fair) advance them from really torque!
Yes, thank you for posting the article, I assure you that what they write is reality and from their site you see that they are constantly evolving. Bye-bye.

 

[>Iceman<]

If you want to watch more videos, you will find them all here...http://www.graitec.com/en/movielist.aspciao!

 

[Enzetto]

Hello iceman,
I read that you made an outage of about €5,000 for the purchase of the program. I would therefore like to bring the following questions:
1-who is the dealer you've addressed to?
2-what the most dated version of autocad on which you can turn?
3-the version of which you are in Italian language?
4-Do you have courses to be able to use the program, or the documentation to correct (or tutorial) is so exhaustive that you can use an autonomous training path?
an early thanks for the availability to answer and a greeting.

and

p.s. I know perfectly autocad, and I have an excellent knowledge of inventor.

 

[studio.avarino]

1-who is the dealer you've addressed to?
2-what the most dated version of autocad on which you can turn?
3-the version of which you are in Italian language?
4-Do you have courses to be able to use the program, or the documentation to correct (or tutorial) is so exhaustive that you can use an autonomous training path?

Maybe before you ask all these questions it would be better to light a 1000w lamp in his face, so the interrogation is more likely!

 

[Enzetto]

dear avarino study, would it be so kind to point out the correct way of expressing yourself to have answer to the above questions I placed?
because in all honesty, I miss a more synthetic and clear method from what I used to expose my questions to the iceman user.
greetings

and

p.s. Your intervention brought me to mind the following sentence: "if there is one thing that is immoral, it is banality" (manuel lambs)

 

[studio.avarino]

egregio enzetto,
I would like to stress that, in my humble opinion, the debate on the forums leaves more freedom, the interlocutors, to deepen and detail the news they give to their colleagues. perhaps for a matter of privacy its correspondent would prefer not to say who is the dealer, or not to specify if the amount paid is consequence of discounts or special promotional campaigns etc. etc.
from the tone of his known response that he was somewhat resentful for my observation, probably not appreciated because she herself found, in it, a certain fund of truth.
about his p.s., then, apart from the phrase reported to me seems "banal", but where did you see, in my speech a question of "morality"?
per il moderatoreSince my intervention has been unwelcome, you can safely delete my message, along with the enzetto response, thanks

 

[Shape]

perhaps for a matter of privacy its correspondent would prefer not to say who is the dealer, or not to specify if the amount paid is consequence of discounts or special promotional campaigns etc. etc.

..... seen that it is the user who said how much he paid the sw, I think asking is lawful... answering is your faculty....
We don't even put in here the voicy that we have full pockets of cards signed in triple copy....... .

In addition, his speech gave nothing to the debate and he did not answer any questions. .
here as you asked I think you can quietly close like ot... but not because enzetto has been resented but for an excess of "uselessness"

Of course, along with my intervention. . .
Thank you.

 

[Likesteel]

hello to all
I intervene in this discussion to say that I have seen how it works advance and is impressive but, if it has not been resolved, it has a sin of not little account.
in a few words, while prosteel is very compatible with autocad and its designs can be read and edited also by those without prosteel, a free "objectc enable" software is given for translation from prosteel to autocad. with graitec this is not possible. you can only see the design but you can not intervene.
I think the version I saw was 8.
can be that with the new versions it is possible.
as to the purchase of the software was present in Italy a dealer, currently there is no more but on the site there are European retailers.

 

[>Iceman<]

dear avarino study, would it be so kind to point out the correct way of expressing yourself to have answer to the above questions I placed?
because in all honesty, I miss a more synthetic and clear method from what I used to expose my questions to the iceman user.
greetings

and

p.s. Your intervention brought me to mind the following sentence: "if there is one thing that is immoral, it is banality" (manuel lambs)

Good morning, everyone! ! !
Of course if you miss from this forum a little time, the messages are cool!!! Hey!
Let's start:

@studio.avarino &amp; enzetto
...to be good...

@shape
...so shape...

@enzetto
OK, I have news from bomb!!!
1-who is the dealer you've addressed to?we are using it because imposed by the client and bought it directly from the mother house. the news is, that I got an email from the Italian company that sells prosteel and in their digital signature, report the logo graitec advance! are present both at the fair made expo in milan and at the sae of bologna.
2-what the most dated version of autocad on which you can turn?suitable is a big word.. the answer would be...that you go better, clearly the full version (not lt to understand us) and from the 2007 version onwards (given from the site www.graitec.com).
3-the version of which you are in Italian language?the version that I have (advance steel 2011) is in English, but the dealer of prosteel told me that the 2012 version will also be translated into Italian.
4-Do you have courses to be able to use the program, or the documentation to correct (or tutorial) is so exhaustive that you can use an autonomous training path?using these software without a course is crazy because you risk taking a lot of time and fail to understand its potential and tricks. we have participated in some online demonstrations and then ask a little to the technicians who use it. but I assure you that as soon as there is a chance a course I will. It is also true that using prosteel I had no difficulty moving to advance steel, I (sing) have finally abandoned prosteel but, in a bad way, there is no story! !

 

[>Iceman<]

hello to all
I intervene in this discussion to say that I have seen how it works advance and is impressive but, if it has not been resolved, it has a sin of not little account.
in a few words, while prosteel is very compatible with autocad and its designs can be read and edited also by those without prosteel, a free "objectc enable" software is given for translation from prosteel to autocad. with graitec this is not possible. you can only see the design but you can not intervene.
I think the version I saw was 8.
can be that with the new versions it is possible.
as to the purchase of the software was present in Italy a dealer, currently there is no more but on the site there are European retailers.

@likesteel
hi, what you write is true in part, in the sense that it is true that there is not a viewer (that I know) but it is also true that, the model can be exported to dwg of autocad or (finally) dwf maintaining brands and properties of solids themselves and is not editable. if someone has to take a measure in the 3d design review program of autodesk (among others free) allows to do so. Tables can be exported to autocad dwg and so you have everything you need.

I hope I have answered the questions exhaustively, but if you have (and I can answer) do more.

Hello, everyone.

 

[Enzetto]

thank you so much iceman for the detailed and punctual answer.
If all goes well I should find some time to go to the bologna saviour, so as to "touch with hand" the potential of the program.
If I have to proceed to the purchase of the software it will be my concern to express in this forum the reviews about it.
Excuse me for the late answer, I send a greeting to all.

and

 

[>Iceman<]

thank you so much iceman for the detailed and punctual answer.
If all goes well I should find some time to go to the bologna saviour, so as to "touch with hand" the potential of the program.
If I have to proceed to the purchase of the software it will be my concern to express in this forum the reviews about it.
Excuse me for the late answer, I send a greeting to all.

and

Well, thank you in advance for your future opinion!

 

[pellico]

Hi.
I downloaded advance steel,
Is someone demoing advance steel?
I came to extract the single pieces, you?

 

[pellico]

Nobody did anything.. .
any advice on advance steel?

 

[gil]

I've watched the videos for now and a little more. What are you trying to do?

 

[>Iceman<]

Hi.
I downloaded advance steel,
Is someone demoing advance steel?
I came to extract the single pieces, you?

hello to all, as I already mentioned, I work daily, so I did everything (table, distinct, nc, etc.). but are you working on an Italian version? I didn't dump anything anymore.
Bye.

 

[blind]

Good morning to all

among the few standists who were present at the saie I found advanced steel dealers but I must tell you sincerely that the software did not impress me very much.
I seemed in line with the prosteel I had seen and discarded previously for the fact that it leans on autocad platform that historically does not allow the management of large and complex structures unless subdividing them into multiple parts and not always is possible.

for the canopies is ok but for an oven the problems are quite different

to you the word

 

[>Iceman<]

Good morning to all

among the few standists who were present at the saie I found advanced steel dealers but I must tell you sincerely that the software did not impress me very much.
I seemed in line with the prosteel I had seen and discarded previously for the fact that it leans on autocad platform that historically does not allow the management of large and complex structures unless subdividing them into multiple parts and not always is possible.

for the canopies is ok but for an oven the problems are quite different

to you the word

You probably read the brochure from what you write to me that you saw very little.
While I was at the sae on their stand, a guy they were showing advance asked to mark a complex model. the technician has opened a plant with curved and calandrated pipes and pipes (especially all). with the autocad count came out more than 25,000 objects. an employee to automatically mark just over a minute! If this is not enough...