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[bradipo666]

hello raga in the file together I have two parts coupled through constraints. can I pierce the first sheet in order to pierce even the one below?? Thank you.

 

[Roxkill]

Hi.
In my opinion, from the point of view of creating in real way the components with real work, must make holes on the individual parts.
for convenience you can tear directly into the axieme:
select the first part, drill, then return to the axieme, go to the selection of the second part and project the geometry of the hole in order to have a correct coincidence, after which holes.
in the end revenues two correct holes for two separate jobs and an exact coincidence.
I hope I helped you.
Bye.

 

[Catafratto]

hello raga in the file together I have two parts coupled through constraints. can I pierce the first sheet in order to pierce even the one below?? Thank you.

Yes, you can do, but be careful: This workmanship exists only in the axieme, if you go to table the individual parts you will not find the work done together. There is an add-in that allows you to "pass" the work together with the part, but this is another story... in practice you can simulate the hole "in operation" that the editor would do for, that I know, fix in place two plates with a plug after adjusting the position.
the procedure described by roxkill is not wrong in theory, but it calls into play the adactivity, which me and others do not like because of its zoppppppppppppptious operation: if you use this method remember to remove it as soon as possible, penalty great angers!
Bye!

 

[Tarkus]

quoto catafratto,
If you move the hole position in plate 1, 90% the hole on plate 2 will not follow the change.. .

 

[bradipo666]

Um... hole the first plate, then step to the second, I project the holes, hole the second plate, I come back together, I go into the browser and take the check on "adactivity" on the second plate? doing this, if I change the hole on the first plate do not change the hole on the second right plate?

 

[braunfish]

in practical reality drill the 2 pieces before or after their mating?

 

[bradipo666]

in practical reality drill the 2 pieces before or after their mating?

Is there a difference? What is the best procedure?

 

[braunfish]

You want to draw it now, because I think tomorrow you might want to build it.
As I try to mirror in modeling the actual processing procedure, and inventor allows it, then I ask you if you have already thought about how you will work the pieces.
There is no better or worse procedure, there are processing needs that you can only know about.
if in reality you prefer to have the already drilled pieces before assembling them then I recommend you to make the holes separately on both sides so that then, assiemate, the holes correspond.
you have 3 ways:
- manually, first on one side, then on the other: if you have to change one then by hand you have to remember to change the other too
- with adactivity: make holes on one side and then use the holes to project them as a sketch on the other side. the second remains adaptive to the first, with all pros and cons of adactivity in inventor.
- axieme layout: you can do a sketch with the centers of your holes, and then derive the sketch in both parts and holes individually. modifying the initial sketch, the parts are also updated.

 

[Tarkus]

You want to draw it now, because I think tomorrow you might want to build it.

- axieme layout: you can do a sketch with the centers of your holes, and then derive the sketch in both parts and holes individually. modifying the initial sketch, the parts are also updated.

quoto for the third solution. . .

In fact, there's a fourth, although I don't know if it's applicable to bradipo666 work.
I create my two plates in part environment, creating them as distinct solids, then the hole at will and finally comes them into parts that will go into the axieme.
If I change the location of the holes or anything in the fictitious father file, just update the axieme and it's already in place.
So I'm out of adaptivity and related problems...:36_1_15:

 

[arzigogolo]

Um... hole the first plate, then step to the second, I project the holes, hole the second plate, I come back together, I go into the browser and take the check on "adactivity" on the second plate? doing this, if I change the hole on the first plate do not change the hole on the second right plate?

Right!

It's the procedure that I'd follow if I had to drill two plates in an axieme: active in the assist the first part and I make the hole. 2) return to the aid. 3) activate the second part, I project the geometry of the hole of the first part and I make the other hole. 4) Optional: If I wish, once the holes are finished, I remove the adactivity to avoid problems in case of an axieme with many parts.

for my personal experience: If you are in the design stage and if your set does not contain many parts, I find it very useful to do this:

If for example I am deciding how to bind a tree in relation to other components, it is clear that it will be the position of the tree to guide the position of any holes present on other elements, so if the holes are adaptive on the respective parts, I will find very comfortable because I will be free to move the tree in any position I want sure that the holes on the parts will follow it perfectly.

then when I am sure of the position of my tree, it will be enough to remove the tick to the activity of the various parts and the game will be done.
Simply open the individual components and enter the odds that will control the position of the holes in the future.

At least, I find myself so well, then also the third method proposed by braunfish and the fourth tarkus, have advantages depending on the contexts.

 

[bradipo666]

perfect, so do not recommend using the adactivity.. and so be it! then I will try to project the geometries or to derive the sketch. thanks to all:finger::finger:

 

[bradipo666]

ps: I am also experimenting this way: in the together I go on --> design --> connection bolted and hole both parts. I tried to put the single parts on the table and it seems that there... what do you say? ?

 

[Roxkill]

perfect, so do not recommend using the adactivity.. and so be it! then I will try to project the geometries or to derive the sketch. thanks to all:finger::finger:

Hi.
I personally recommend you to use entambe! !
this forum, it also helps to find new ways that lead to the same solution, so try both ways and after values which to choose!many times for this problem you would choose the first solution, but not for this is your final choice also later.Can you attach a file?
Hello, everyone.

 

[Roxkill]

ps: I am also experimenting this way: in the together I go on --> design --> connection bolted and hole both parts. I tried to put the single parts on the table and it seems that there... what do you say? ?

I say if you try not to make mistakes, on the contrary it still seeks a further solution!! (not always there is:biggrin
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