how to calculate the area at sight? (i.e. the area to be painted)

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dear all,
I go back to ask something I would like to understand (see my inexperience with revit, maybe someone has already solved and could be useful to know how).
how do I extract the area to dye with the computi materiali di revit?
in the specific problem is:
if I were to paint beams and exposed pillars (with the exclusion of the thicknesses where the walls touch the faces of the structural elements above?
In practice I would like to know how to compute the visible faces of the model

Any suggestions? How did you solve this?
thanks in advance
ps: I read about an application that "would be able to do this" and is called istools rac 2012, someone knows? Can you do this kind of calculation?

Sorry in advance for my ignorance, thank you in advance
Hi.

 

[MB78]

there is also roombook and is an extension found on the subscription website http://blog.cadway.com.au/2010/12/roombook-extension-for-revit-2011.html

 

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Thanks mb,
I understand therefore not to be possible with the mere tools of quantity take off of revit right?
I wonder why, since the possibility (technical) of a database can predict the verification of interference has not been integrated this functionality that I think can be of enormous usefulness for designers in the civil field (and not only.... )
I will therefore take note of this "limit" of revit and take account of its activities
hello and good day

 

[Tristan]

ps: I read about an application that "would be able to do this" and is called istools rac 2012, someone knows? Can you do this kind of calculation?

don't contact the developers first, as they're Italian, and ask them?

 

[gfrank]

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I wonder why, since the possibility (technical) of a database can predict the verification of interference has not been integrated this functionality that I think can be of enormous usefulness for designers in the civil field (and not only.... )
I will therefore take note of this "limit" of revit and take account of its activities
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waiting to verify the improvements introduced in the management of the layers of the new version, you can evaluate other options, depending on the specific needs.

if for example your need to have the accuracy of this information, you can realize the walls with two families:
- the first family of walls (excluding plasters)
- the second family of walls (shown - only plaster) ranging from floor to ceiling (or beam edge), and from pillar to pillar.

p.s. keep in mind that in counting a quotation of paint, the presence of beams and exposed pillars (in "normal" quantities) involves applying the so-called "full" measurement, as the untied surfaces, compensate for the need of the painter, of having to apply the rubberized tape to delimit the "filo" of shin break.
if you give the painter a metric compute with the extrapolation of the quantities of beams and pillars to sight (in normal quantity) will apply an increase on the price of the paint for the application of the "rubbery tape" of delimitation of the frames. much more will probably take you for .... brick ...:biggrin:

 

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@ tristan: I personally believe that one of the advantages of the thematic forums is to share experiences among users and that's why I asked the question in this forum, if you don't have things to say about it (apart from the obviousness of your answer) you could also avoid responding so (ask as I think it...), however thanks the same of the board.
@ gfrank: thanks for the straight, but taking care of design of industrial buildings, the estimates are made vpp for the totality of the building, but the precise quarters serve to monitor the progress in the yard.
the need therefore to obtain as many information as possible, and waitibli, from revit (premit that I use, or better try to use revit structure 2012) is what I have set to do, the same then must be passed to other software for the management of the yard itself.
I was probably out of the way to assume that one product could do this, I will only understand what I can extract beyond the number of items and/or their volume, and possibly change the way to model the elements according to what I will have to extract.
thanks anyway for the clarifications (which are always welcome)
good Sunday to all

 

[Tristan]

@ tristan: I personally believe that one of the advantages of the thematic forums is to share experiences among users and that's why I asked the question in this forum, if you don't have things to say about it (apart from the obviousness of your answer) you could also avoid responding so (ask as I think it...), however thanks the same of the board.

Yes, of course, but I think that about istools you haven't received any feedback. If my answer is so obvious you will certainly have anticipated it. So what did they say? Can you or may not make those calculations?

 

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Yes, of course, but I think that about istools you haven't received any feedback. If my answer is so obvious you will certainly have anticipated it. So what did they say? Can you or may not make those calculations?

no, I didn't hear them (because I think that asking the bear if his wine is good never receives an objective answer), relative to the tones of your answers, no comment.
Maybe I can apologize if I offended you somehow
greetings

 

[Tristan]

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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

in fact.... I have however verified and requested all the necessary information with the digicorp and its tool for revit that has been integrated in the mosaic suite (which I personally believe to be a software that is less certified and used by many users, the next week should give me the info, and maybe even a demonstration of what they promise.... at that point I will come back here and I will give the info you had with all the users as I think that regardless of use that will not
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

in fact.... I have however verified and requested all the necessary info with the digicorp and its tool for concant for revit that has been integrated in the mosaic suite (which I personally think is a software that is less used by many users, next week should give me the required info and maybe even a demonstration of how much they promise.... at that point I will come back here and share the info you had with all the users as I think that independently from the use that
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