how to quote gas thread (outdoor/indoor) in the design

[arzigogolo]

Hello, everyone!

Before opening this discussion I tried to do a research about it and although I found something similar, it does not exactly answer my question.

In fact taking up a discussion of these days opened on the inventor thread relative to the possibility to automatically quote a gas thread, I wondered if solidworks has the possibility to automatically appear (with an intelligent quotation or annotation) the word "g 1/2" or any other dimension of the thread without having to manually intervene.

I tried to create an external diameter cylinder corresponding to the nominal diameter of the thread (in my case the thread "g 1/2" corresponds to 20.955 mm) and then to apply the cosmetic thread and so far all right.

then in the table I created a section of the cylinder and in the same view I tried to quote it, but the result is a quota with the value of 20,955 mm with the symbol ø in front, as from attached image.

I also tried to change the units of measurement from mm to inch and the result is a quota with the measure of 20.955 converted into inches, already correct from the point of view of the value, but not from the point of view of the legislation and that is how I would like it to appear ("g 1/2").

I tried to do it also in inventor and there the word on the quota gives me correct with the command "hole and thread".

I hope there is this possibility even in solidworks!:redface:

thank you all!:smile:

p.s.
do not tell me that I have to go to the file "calloutformat.txt"!:biggrin::biggrin:

 

[sampom]

Hello, everyone!
Before opening this discussion I tried to do a research about it and although I found something similar, it does not exactly answer my question.

Yes, it has spoken much in the past (and partially solved). It's an old swx problem.
http://www.cad3d.it/forum1/showthread.php?t=16261&highlight=didascalia+filettatura&page=2and again in 2011 you are in the same situation.

you can insert a note (didascalia) to the table thread, not directly a quota. apply cosmetic in 3d, but in "manual mode" with standard Nobody., writing in the appropriate field what you want to see in the note. once at right clik table on thread line and choose insert caption; will leave a director from the thread with your note.

I don't understand why you can't implement a function similar to the creation wizard holes that you work on the trees, so that you respect all the standards automatically.

greetings
Mar
editWait. but you also asked for gas thread internalSo holes?
In this case it works as usual creation wizard holes; you must use the standard din and thread bspp and proceed as always for the metrics. even in the table you will normally quota and the correct designation appears.

 

[arzigogolo]

Yes, it has spoken much in the past (and partially solved). It's an old swx problem.
http://www.cad3d.it/forum1/showthread.php?t=16261&highlight=didascalia+filettatura&page=2and again in 2011 you are in the same situation.

you can insert a note (didascalia) to the table thread, not directly a quota. apply cosmetic in 3d, but in "manual mode" with standard Nobody., writing in the appropriate field what you want to see in the note. once at right clik table on thread line and choose insert caption; will leave a director from the thread with your note.

I don't understand why you can't implement a function similar to the creation wizard holes that you work on the trees, so that you respect all the standards automatically.

greetings
Mar

hi marco, thanks for the answer!:finger:

It seems to me an excellent method to create a note in the model with the correct name and then to recall it in the table, so it is like a kind of automatism and, even if in half, when you call it back in the table is immediate! Very well!

Of course, I would have preferred that he put it automatically as an inventor, but on the other hand, in a program there are things that go well and others a little less and vice versa. finding the most complete is very difficult thing.

However, as you rightly say, it is very strange that the 2011 version has not yet thought about inserting such a useful function.
that you know in the 2012 version have implemented it?

The keynote, even with pro/e wf5 is a cinema customize the hole note and I don't even know if the gas thread gives you the correct (in the table, you mean!! better specify before some pro/e user eats me!:biggrin::biggrin
mah, you see it is a function that developers do not judge important.

editWait. but you also asked for gas thread internalSo holes?
In this case it works as usual creation wizard holes; you must use the standard din and thread bspp and proceed as always for the metrics. even in the table you will normally quota and the correct designation appears.

Yes, I was referring above all to the external thread, when I noticed it was too late to correct the title of the discussion. thanks anyway!:finger:

Bye.
Light

 

[arzigogolo]

I was wondering, if it was not done by someone, if it would be possible to open a report to dassault to inform them of this lack of the program.

Maybe if we start reporting it, who knows that they don't start to consider the problem.:smile:

Thank you all!

Light

 

[SolidUser]

I was wondering, if it was not done by someone, if it would be possible to open a report to dassault to inform them of this lack of the program.

Maybe if we start reporting it, who knows that they don't start to consider the problem.:smile:

Thank you all!

Light

Maybe not.
open the request directly from the solidworks website.
When they call a spr, enter it here and vote it.
You can't wait for someone to do it for you or say it....sai lucio... I opened a signal to solidworks to put the g symbol in the bspp threads.
if you had time to make this request on this forum...you will also have time to make it on the site.
Remember to insert that inventor does it without problems.

 

[SolidUser]

Hello, everyone!

Before opening this discussion I tried to do a research about it and although I found something similar, it does not exactly answer my question.

In fact taking up a discussion of these days opened on the inventor thread relative to the possibility to automatically quote a gas thread, I wondered if solidworks has the possibility to automatically appear (with an intelligent quotation or annotation) the word "g 1/2" or any other dimension of the thread without having to manually intervene.

I tried to create an external diameter cylinder corresponding to the nominal diameter of the thread (in my case the thread "g 1/2" corresponds to 20.955 mm) and then to apply the cosmetic thread and so far all right.

then in the table I created a section of the cylinder and in the same view I tried to quote it, but the result is a quota with the value of 20,955 mm with the symbol ø in front, as from attached image.

I also tried to change the units of measurement from mm to inch and the result is a quota with the measure of 20.955 converted into inches, already correct from the point of view of the value, but not from the point of view of the legislation and that is how I would like it to appear ("g 1/2").

I tried to do it also in inventor and there the word on the quota gives me correct with the command "hole and thread".

I hope there is this possibility even in solidworks!:redface:

thank you all!:smile:

p.s.
do not tell me that I have to go to the file "calloutformat.txt"!:biggrin::biggrin:

This is what you can do now.

 

[arzigogolo]

Maybe not.
open the request directly from the solidworks website.
When they call a spr, enter it here and vote it.
You can't wait for someone to do it for you or say it....sai lucio... I opened a signal to solidworks to put the g symbol in the bspp threads.
if you had time to make this request on this forum...you will also have time to make it on the site.
Remember to insert that inventor does it without problems.

Of course, I didn't mean anyone to do it for me. It's just that having the "student" version of solidworks, I don't know if with this version there's a chance to open a signal, that's all. Otherwise I would have done it already!:smile:
Unfortunately writing is not like talking and sometimes you do not understand how you would like to.

This is what you can do now.

thank you for the test, in fact I had already tried to do so following the indication of sampom and had come out just like that! anyway thanks the same because it confirms that as I had done it was right!:finger:

Yes, sometimes there is something good in inventor and in this case I have to say that it is so. in practice the result is very similar to that of solidworks, only that is slightly better because the command gives you the possibility to select both external edges of the thread and the quota puts it with the two extension lines instead of with a director, like a normal in short.
then he has his flaws too, because in case of a semisection does not give you the possibility to select one of the two edges, as reported in this discussionhttp://www.cad3d.it/forum1/showthread.php?t=28637

 

[Ivan1990]

to me the gas threads I always and however bad, every time I have to intervene manually to change them, example gas 1/4 comes out m13,157, while the cosmetic threads any type of thread put, if the quote comes out the outer diameter or the inner diameter but no indication regarding the thread

 

[Ivan1990]

This is what you can do now.

this method works for external threads, thank you very much!!! :finger:

 

[Ivan1990]

editWait. but you also asked for gas thread internalSo holes?
In this case it works as usual creation wizard holes; you must use the standard din and thread bspp and proceed as always for the metrics. even in the table you will normally quota and the correct designation appears.

ok I also solved this problem, I used iso or ansi metric also for gas threads, thanks to help me learn:biggrin:

 

[SolidUser]

to me the gas threads I always and however bad, every time I have to intervene manually to change them, example gas 1/4 comes out m13,157, while the cosmetic threads any type of thread put, if the quote comes out the outer diameter or the inner diameter but no indication regarding the thread

I agree and you're not the only one.
a request for improvement.
I don't understand the deafness about something as obvious as necessary.
the problem is that our quotation system which is not anxious is used in Europe.
I know it's not little, but they're more likely to implement shortcomings on Anglo-Saxon standards than our din and iso.
I'll vote for it.

 

[arzigogolo]

I agree and you're not the only one.
a request for improvement.
I don't understand the deafness about something as obvious as necessary.
the problem is that our quotation system which is not anxious is used in Europe.
I know it's not little, but they're more likely to implement shortcomings on Anglo-Saxon standards than our din and iso.
I'll vote for it.

quoto.
the director who comes out when you click with the right button on the thread with the command "insert caption" even if functional, aesthetically it is not very beautiful and even if it is a valid alternative, it would be better that the program showed a quota with the two extension lines as it happens in inventor.
In fact my question was whether it is possible for someone like me who owns the "student" version, to be able to open a signal.
Does anyone know if you can do this? If you can open it tomorrow too!:smile:

 

[SolidUser]

quoto.
the director who comes out when you click with the right button on the thread with the command "insert caption" even if functional, aesthetically it is not very beautiful and even if it is a valid alternative, it would be better that the program showed a quota with the two extension lines as it happens in inventor.
In fact my question was whether it is possible for someone like me who owns the "student" version, to be able to open a signal.
Does anyone know if you can do this? If you can open it tomorrow too!:smile:

No.
who owns the student version does not have to pay maintenance and therefore support.
I would, but after so many years, I'm getting tired of asking for the same things.
I leave the witness to the youngest and most willing.