internship and work placement

[baleritec]

Hello, I am doing an internship as a technical designer, fixed for the duration and maximum time possible; 6 months and 40 hours a week.

the company, which is framed to the crafts, designs and builds internally coilers, conveyor belts and machines for the packing of rolls of various kinds.

In the technical office we're in two, me and my internship tutor. Originally they were looking for a person to enter urgently in the technical office, given the only designer found only with a huge workload, with an initial internship. I was promised in case everything went well according to the various monitoring of the internship, made with the help of the local employment center. So the internship was inevitable, and I took the ball to the leap, feeling it was a good opportunity. and so is probably, only I have some doubts:

the first is on the duration and time, set to the maximum and without criterion. because most hours are based on activities that we will not do, or better we will not do for the hours fixed 450/1000h total, i.e. calculation fem and kinematics. not only will we not do them for the predetermined hours (in 5 months 1h poor, with the help of a specific function of inventor, load-force), but according to the company tutor you can not even do in the case of the fem, for the lack of a specific license.

then I am not followed as I should, from project (contract), on 40h week I am followed a couple. the rest is self-work or I am digging to find something to do and fill the dead times. from contract instead it is specified that the tutor must "in spite and assiduously follow the candidate in the experience and determine the tasks to be carried out".

all is added to the low opinion that the tutor has regarding internships, every reference to the internship shakes the head. and every month he signs the attendance register without even checking it. It also seems to have a low opinion towards the consultant of the job, who drafted the project-contract together with the administration of the company and the employment center, considering that those hours (the 450) were put to "long the duration, stretch the broth".

Given this, I am worried about the intake of the frame. according to the monitors, compiled with months of delay from the tutor, it is going very well, regarding punctuality, adaptation to tasks and corporate organization. In practice, I feel appropriate to the role of designer/designer.

But what's up to me later? being the first experience will the framing be minimal? and with apprenticeship contract?

after 6 months of sacrifice, because 8h are so many for an internship and I do not perceive even a salary, but a refund, to make a 3-5 year apprenticeship would be even more sacrificing, given the ccnl metalmeccanico handicraft. especially after the 6 months spent in training (I'm working, but I'm not working on the cards) the training will last for other years. How do you advise me to act? will the framing be discussed with me too?

In the meantime, I have done two more interviews, and none of these companies would offer me an apprenticeship. but administration aimed at the indeterminate.

 

[cacciatorino]

for a neodiplomate or neolaureate (don't specify it, but it would be important) it's quite normal to make the string that they proposed to you:

• internship (maybe this jumps for a graduate in engineering)
• apprenticeship
• assunzione a t.i.

I think you'd do well to ask the same questions at the company that you're interfering with, so you know where you're going to parade, rather than here on the forum where we can only supposition. I understand that your message is more of a rash for a dissatisfaction than a real request for clarification, but I think you should be more proactive and talk to the company.

If then what they offer you won't be good, and on the other hand they will offer you the inside for a few months and then the indefinite time you'll have the answer, right?

p.s., however, do not think that after six months of internship you can define yourself expert and therefore no longer needing further training, I assure you that things are very different.

 

[baleritec]

for a neodiplomate or neolaureate (don't specify it, but it would be important) it's quite normal to make the string that they proposed to you:

• internship (maybe this jumps for a graduate in engineering)
• apprenticeship
• assunzione a t.i.

I think you'd do well to ask the same questions at the company that you're interfering with, so you know where you're going to parade, rather than here on the forum where we can only supposition. I understand that your message is more of a rash for a dissatisfaction than a real request for clarification, but I think you should be more proactive and talk to the company.

If then what they offer you won't be good, and on the other hand they will offer you the inside for a few months and then the indefinite time you'll have the answer, right?

p.s., however, do not think that after six months of internship you can define yourself expert and therefore no longer need further trainingI assure you, things are very different.

The fact is this, training, I am training? Since the duration and time are sized on training objectives, and half will not be done? Is that a normal situation? I'm talking about the company, aren't I?

Will the apprenticeship also have a training plan, given the internship, be respected?

I have asked the company, already for about a month, both to the tutor and to the owner, if they had made an idea about what to do next, the answer was "please me" and they would have let me know, but still nothing. Surely I will raise. for this I was looking for a moment for a confrontation and external opinions, perhaps from those who have already been on my steps.

I am a graduate, I have other works behind me, but not as a designer, designer or in the field of studies that I have completed until now (mechanical expert)

 

[meccanicamg]

Unfortunately, what you describe is what happens in small businesses.
I also had to work for the university for 6 months and lasted 11. I worked from 6 am to 11 pm with lunch and dinner paid and a lump sum. I learned so much because I followed the design with the young boy. the head of the office and my tutor was afraid and so he was on his side and weeping from the mistress because I bathed his nose... .
I had to prepare almost everything except for fluid dynamics at home, so I had to arrange.
once I graduated I went to work on the competition.

Look around. Don't stop. You're young, you're low-headed and you're assimilate what you need. If your internship for the school is disappointing to alert your teacher ... it seems to me to understand that it is really a m ...
They're gonna give you another company.

for work, interview and if you can stay in industry and not in crafts.

If you can go directly into the companies and don't go through the work agencies... even if you have to be really good and have some luck.

 

[baleritec]

Unfortunately, what you describe is what happens in small businesses.
I also had to work for the university for 6 months and lasted 11. I worked from 6 am to 11 pm with lunch and dinner paid and a lump sum. I learned so much because I followed the design with the young boy. the head of the office and my tutor was afraid and so he was on his side and weeping from the mistress because I bathed his nose... .
I had to prepare almost everything except for fluid dynamics at home, so I had to arrange.
once I graduated I went to work on the competition.

Look around. Don't stop. You're young, you're low-headed and you're assimilate what you need. If your internship for the school is disappointing to alert your teacher ... it seems to me to understand that it is really a m ...
They're gonna give you another company.

for work, interview and if you can stay in industry and not in crafts.

If you can go directly into the companies and don't go through the work agencies... even if you have to be really good and have some luck.

Thank you for your message.
The internship is extracurricular.

I don't think it's a total m, and I understand it might look like it. because I like the role I'm having. I like to work with this role, I don't care, and I willingly sacrifice myself. it also allows me to space in design, because they do not clearly seek a designer, the company is too small to afford one that just draws.

But precisely what I do must resurrect in the future. must be a good investment. an apprenticeship where I am now a small company, in crafts and in 2 in the office, often left alone, is too heavy to endure. not to exclude the apprentice regardless, I speak of this particular case of company.

 

[stevie]

Thank you for your message.
The internship is extracurricular.

I don't think it's a total m, and I understand it might look like it. because I like the role I'm having. I like to work with this role, I don't care, and I willingly sacrifice myself. it also allows me to space in design, because they do not clearly seek a designer, the company is too small to afford one that just draws.

But precisely what I do must resurrect in the future. must be a good investment. an apprenticeship where I am now a small company, in crafts and in 2 in the office, often left alone, is too heavy to endure. not to exclude the apprentice regardless, I speak of this particular case of company.

You didn't understand if you're a graduate or graduate. . .
Your qualifying tutor has?

other thing that is not clear to me... if in the company they all have a very low opinion of the internship because they have been available? It is not a law obligation for a company to accept someone in internships...I smell burning. . .

I don't want you at the end of the internship to kick in the [bleep] and go on another...

 

[baleritec]

You didn't understand if you're a graduate or graduate. . .
Your qualifying tutor has?

other thing that is not clear to me... if in the company they all have a very low opinion of the internship because they have been available? It is not a law obligation for a company to accept someone in internships...I smell burning. . .

I don't want you at the end of the internship to kick in the [bleep] and go on another...

I agree with you.... Why? Forgive me but it goes beyond my understanding to understand why companies do certain contracts... In fact, speaking of "understanding" is too much, since they don't understand the dynamics of the same contracts that stipulate.... as mentioned above, I have to "take" every little bureaucratic activity inherent in the internship.

I tried to investigate this anyway and according to the tutor, taking an intern for other months would be destructive, because it is alone.. and with me it went well, I was operating already after a few weeks being already qualified, the internship is open to anyone even to those who never used a cad.....

I already imagine them ready with the apprenticeship contract.... (I hope to be wrong), nothing but football in the c. maybe!

graduate, already specified.

 

[stevie]

But excuse me, if you have already found other companies that would offer you a certain time paid, maybe at least but paid, what are you waiting for?

continue where you are, I think it's a waste of time, it's okay to learn, but there's a limit to everything.

then an account would have a tutor that is a luminaire of mechanics, but from what you described. . .

 

[baleritec]

But excuse me, if you have already found other companies that would offer you a certain time paid, maybe at least but paid, what are you waiting for?

continue where you are, I think it's a waste of time, it's okay to learn, but there's a limit to everything.

then an account would have a tutor that is a luminaire of mechanics, but from what you described. . .

Because I'd better finish it by now, wouldn't I? At least I close the contract, a few weeks away and I take the qualification of a mechanical designer, for what is worth of course. if I interrupt now I don't think it is released and attested by the employment center, very important thing because good or bad is always in the middle and controls the sap (old booklet of the job now professional chart).

What I'm interested in knowing, why I opened the discussion, is it if you can help me in a future frame?

2 job offers, are one as an advanced technical designer (print 3d) and one as a measuring instrument calibration technician. none of these in apprenticeship, determined aimed at indefinite. It is not so simple after they have been in a company for months. I don't have the certainty of hiring, even if they have communicated positive outcome of the interview (3 steps, 2 tests), it is a we let you know.

I forgot, the tutor is mechanical engineer, over 20 years of experience in mechanical design. I think it's valid as honest skills, which is really toxic, I hope it's better over time if I stay here.

 

[stevie]

answering your final question. . .

"what I'm interested in knowing, why I opened the discussion, is it if you can help me in a future frame? "

I think so far. . .

having in hand a certificate of "mechanical designer" which means everything and nothing, does not imply that you are in fact... or at least in a hypothetical job interview at that point would be useless, because any serious selector would evaluate your actual knowledge regardless of the certificate. . .