lifting machine yes or no? when applying res part 4?

[Pastorman75]

Despite the firm insisting on this point, I agree with you. In the beginning I thought I was free, and instead, said without a turn of words, the company must stand behind. All right, let's let them do it. the road they want to keep is this and I cannot change it (dict, branch of a company, belonging to an international group. . etc... everything is bigger than me here. It would certainly be better if they clearly admit their intentions instead of keeping the "secret": I would understand more and I could not however interfere with their projects).

I read all the discussion and I go out if possible with even greater esteem than the competences of Roman lightning and gerod. I quote everything they have already written and you will not find better on the Italian panorama.

for the situation you live in the company, I understand you as before being a professional I have done for 16 years the employee.
However here is the security of the operators and I would feel to recommend a frank comparison with your managers.
if they are serious and honest people intellectually will ensure in turn to activate themselves to heal the practice of machines sold as qm to download the barrel on another or, worse... contain the costs of certifications.
If they don't do it, and they hinder you, in front of you you you will have the doubt if you continue to stay in such an environment or look for something else.
greetings

 

[Elet88]

I have also happened many times, for example, that the customer wanted to do for example for some fixed shelters.
My idea is:
- the manufacturer designs shelter in order to satisfy all res.
- the manufacturer does not provide shelter, but provides the specifications in detail and does not authorize the commissioning of the machine without testing.
- the customer respects the specifications in the realization of the shelter.
- the test manufacturer checks that what was installed by the customer complies with the specifications and releases the certificate of correct installation and testing.

the manual obviously brings the complete shelters, because the car is that. the fact that components are physically purchased and mounted by a manufacturer's delegate (in this case the customer) does not move the matter.

Of course all this is feasible by working on a contract (also we do so. I didn't specify it before).

 

[Elet88]

However here is the security of the operators and I would feel to recommend a frank comparison with your managers.

Every now and then the topic comes out. the problem is the size of the gear in the whole machine: I am the smallest toothed wheel, the one that must take 60 turns before giving a colpetto to the intermediate one; but I have to make 3600 turns because the bigger wheel realizes me.

 

[Fulvio Romano]

Every now and then the topic comes out. the problem is the size of the gear in the whole machine: I am the smallest toothed wheel, the one that must take 60 turns before giving a colpetto to the intermediate one; but I have to make 3600 turns because the bigger wheel realizes me.

try with a grain of sand.

 

[Elet88]

try with a grain of sand.

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returning to the main topic: I was activated to ask for a consultation with security companies that responded with a brief signed consultation.

In their view, res 4 shall apply to the machine covered by this discussion.

 

[Elet88]

I ask a curiosity: Is there somewhere an example of technical file that also includes res 4? a base is always convenient, especially for any regulatory references.

 

[Fulvio Romano]

I doubt someone publishes an extract from a technical file.
But if you get help from the company you asked? alternatively on this forum there are proud of companies that do this job. gerod is just an example.

 

[Elet88]

the problem is always the cost: the company pays for its consultations (also for the only request for clarification regarding the applicability of ress 4). i am waiting for an answer, and who knows, maybe it gives us a free example. otherwise i put my most precious art into the field and i use more: the arrangement?