Management changes/reviews

[TECNOMODEL]

I ask you experts of toptron some advice on how to handle changes and/or revisions.
I better explain the need:
in our projects there are some details that are developed as a result of machine tests, in which the geometry of the preform is refined (for example) that will have to be printed to obtain the container that is made in blowing.
We therefore design the mold, or rather the 3/4 stations of the process, and we must then go to change some parts of these stations.
Obviously we need a historian of these changes, so that we can "go back" in case one of them does not give the hoped results.
How do you manage such situations?
as a first hypothesis I thought of creating a copy of the detail and of the table by appointing them back and continuing to work on the initial detail. example: I have the cavity piece I have to change, I create a copy that I renounce in cavity-rev.0 and I keep working on cavities. second modification, same procedure, renounce cavity-rev.1 and so on.
The hippo is that by renaming I must then go to reconnect the table to the model. nothing transcendental but you have to remember to do it and you lose time.
other ideas? How are you doing?

 

[TECNOMODEL]

Does anyone handle these things?
or does everyone make "exact" projects and do not fix anything during testing?

 

[ale47p]

I make the project 1234
the client asks me a change, the initial project is renamed "1234_old", I copy / take off the project, which becomes "1234_a", and start working on it
the client asks me another modification, the project "1234_old" remains "1234_old", the project "1234_a" remains "1234_a", I copy/neck the latest version, which becomes "1234_b" and start working on it. . .
and so forth
the tables are hand-held

 

[LaboratorioDieci]

I ask you experts of toptron some advice on how to handle changes and/or revisions.
I better explain the need:
in our projects there are some details that are developed as a result of machine tests, in which the geometry of the preform is refined (for example) that will have to be printed to obtain the container that is made in blowing.
We therefore design the mold, or rather the 3/4 stations of the process, and we must then go to change some parts of these stations.
Obviously we need a historian of these changes, so that we can "go back" in case one of them does not give the hoped results.
How do you manage such situations?
as a first hypothesis I thought of creating a copy of the detail and of the table by appointing them back and continuing to work on the initial detail. example: I have the cavity piece I have to change, I create a copy that I renounce in cavity-rev.0 and I keep working on cavities. second modification, same procedure, renounce cavity-rev.1 and so on.
The hippo is that by renaming I must then go to reconnect the table to the model. nothing transcendental but you have to remember to do it and you lose time.
other ideas? How are you doing?

I also keep the name for the current project and put v1, v2 ... vn for previous versions. If you do copy from windows window, and not to open or explorer of toptron, the tables should get out already connected.

 

[TECNOMODEL]

It seems absurd to have to copy a whole project to change only a few details.
so doing within a short time will serve a new server.

 

[LaboratorioDieci]

It seems absurd to have to copy a whole project to change only a few details.
so doing within a short time will serve a new server.

Why, do you know someone who works differently?

However, by making a fancy effort, I think that in the case of changing a part you could create a new part, import into this part to change and then apply the changes. the advantage would be that not having all the features but only the geometries of the original part, the eelt of the modified would be lighter.
the disadvantage would be that not having the features of the original part, you could only change at the level of geometries and not of feature.

 

[TECNOMODEL]

with a "real" cad simply makes a copy of the part and of its table renamed them, then changes that "initial".
If I have to cancel a change I simply reconnect the part I want.
without loss of connections and various menades.
and everything without using a plm in that case would be even easier.

 

[LaboratorioDieci]

I don't understand why you can't do it with toptron.

 

[TECNOMODEL]

I do it but it is slender, you have to reconnect a lot of files, and more often jump links and the axieme does not update.
Of course, without warning, so if it happens, you might notice it after doing a lot of work that will be done again.
I was looking for a better method.

 

[LaboratorioDieci]

keep in mind, as I mentioned, that the system behaves differently if you copy/muove files inside or out of the toptron.

 

[TECNOMODEL]

It would be interesting if I could explain this better.
By the way, 3dsystem technicians are strongly advised to work outside the explorer.

 

[LaboratorioDieci]

It would be interesting if I could explain this better.
By the way, 3dsystem technicians are strongly advised to work outside the explorer.

And they do well.
they do so because in doing the references are updated and the user does not risk losing pieces of project. But keep in mind that they mostly have to deal with users not too sick, good ones call them little.
In your case, if I didn't get it wrong, you don't want the references to be updated, so if you do the OS copy the references continue to point to the same path.
beyond this keep in mind that connections are stored as relative paths, and not absolute.

 

[LaboratorioDieci]

It would be interesting if I could explain this better.
By the way, 3dsystem technicians are strongly advised to work outside the explorer.

Could you try? Was that what you were looking for?

 

[TECNOMODEL]

I haven't returned today from a fair.

 

[bulinorotto]

Hello?

 

[TECNOMODEL]

Hello?

I don't think 3d system has an integrated plm with toptron, do I?

 

[bulinorotto]

I don't think 3d system has an integrated plm with toptron, do I?

I have no idea, but there are plms that can encapsulate different cads.

 

[TECNOMODEL]

I have no idea, but there are plms that can encapsulate different cads.

true, but with those I don't think they manage the revisions of cad files.
with an integrated plm you do, you change the version of the part, maybe moving it to folder, and keeps all links.

 

[bulinorotto]

I have asked my supplier and confirm that you can manage the revisions

 

[TECNOMODEL]

the revisions of the cad file?
How do you do that? what product are we talking about?
interfaced with toptron?