management position ball skate step.

[malamente]

Hi.
I downloaded from a supplier's website the step of a ball skate, which I entered as assembly in my main assembly.
in order to manage the position along the guide bar, I had to insert all the constraints between the parts of the skate (in practice assembling it) and finally introduce a position bond of the same on the guide, a boring and long-term procedure.
Is there a simpler way to manage the positions of a set step?

 

[cacciatorino]

Is there a simpler way to manage the positions of a set step?

no, in the step files the bonds do not exist, at least for now (you never know, maybe they will be implemented in the future).

 

[DANI-3D]

Hi.

I recommend, once you open the step, to save it as part and insert it into your own set with only one bond.
even because if you insert it as assembly you find yourself in the distinct, if you need, all the components of the skate.

 

[malamente]

Hi.

I recommend, once you open the step, to save it as part and insert it into your own set with only one bond.
even because if you insert it as assembly you find yourself in the distinct, if you need, all the components of the skate.

I was unclear, and I apologize.
the problem is that in the downloaded step the skate is in halfway of the guide bar, while I need it at one end, so:
1) if I insert the step as part, I cannot move it along the guide bar;
2) if I insert the step as a subset, I have a pile of pieces placed but without internal constraints (not assembled) and if I try to insert a offset bond between a part of the skate and a end of the guide bar, I move only the part to which I imposed the bond.

ergo, I had to first introduce the assembly constraints between the various pieces that form the skate and then insert an offset bond to place the skate itself compared to one end of the guide bar.

In the end I took too much time and I will have, as you rightly pointed out, the problem of the distinct "flamed" of non-relevant material.
Did someone solve it less sluggishly?

 

[DANI-3D]

Are you sure you found the right site to download files?
I always found separate skates and guides, and I used many brands.

 

[malamente]

Are you sure you found the right site to download files?
I always found separate skates and guides, and I used many brands.

hiwin, downloaded by hiwin.com, who then leans on cadenas (I hope no one abdominates if I mention brands); the client asked me why he had them in the warehouse and I would like to settle it.
downloading the skates of a famous brand of three letters that begins to s.., would things be different?

 

[tartufon80]

I was unclear, and I apologize.
the problem is that in the downloaded step the skate is in halfway of the guide bar, while I need it at one end, so:
1) if I insert the step as part, I cannot move it along the guide bar;
2) if I insert the step as a subset, I have a pile of pieces placed but without internal constraints (not assembled) and if I try to insert a offset bond between a part of the skate and a end of the guide bar, I move only the part to which I imposed the bond.

ergo, I had to first introduce the assembly constraints between the various pieces that form the skate and then insert an offset bond to place the skate itself compared to one end of the guide bar.

In the end I took too much time and I will have, as you rightly pointed out, the problem of the distinct "flamed" of non-relevant material.
Did someone solve it less sluggishly?

Bye!

I assume it's the hiwin skates... I also find them with the skate+rotaia configuration.
anyway I solve by opening the step as part, then I cut off the guide and save the skate, then I cut off the skate and save the guide. In this way I have the two separate components, assembled and duplicated. :wink:

 

[cacciatorino]

In the end I took too much time and I will have, as you rightly pointed out, the problem of the distinct "flamed" of non-relevant material.

but excuse, pro/e does not allow to avoid exploding some subaxioms when calculating the boms?

 

[DANI-3D]

If I don't remember when you choose the model of the Hiwin skate, among the thousand choices you propose is the possibility to make the guide disappear from the skate, perhaps putting 0 to the length of the guide? I don't remember, it's a piece that doesn't fit this brand.
otherwise follow the hint of truffle, it is essential to have 2 distinct prts.

 

[DANI-3D]

but excuse, pro/e does not allow to avoid exploding some subaxioms when calculating the boms?

with the command info > separate base, you can not do.
you can do by exporting data through tables, setting specific filters.

 

[tartufon80]

If I don't remember when you choose the model of the Hiwin skate, among the thousand choices that you propose there is the possibility to make the guide disappear from the skate, perhaps putting 0 to the length of the guide? I don't remember well, it is a piece that I don't like this brand.... .

I didn't know, as soon as I got a skate that I still don't have in the archive I try.
even if I didn't remember you could choose the length of the rail when you download a skate.
thanks to the suggestion. :smile:

 

[DANI-3D]

in this site you can do quietly:http://hiwin.partcommunity.com/partcommunity/index.jsf?pageid=46812after registration

 

[tartufon80]

Thank you!
In fact I did not download them from cadenas, but a German site of hiwin, where I do not remember this detail of the length. By the way, trying now to access it, the page is not available....who knows!

Thank you again! :smile:

 

[DANI-3D]

Please, come on.
if we don't help each other... poor designers.

 

[malamente]

I also thank all for the availability.
Bye.