nx8 - drafting e gestione table top

[Nous]

hi to everyone, I take this thread to ask a question to who knows more than I (very many!).
use nx8 and I created a cartiglio with the program tool. I put in a cell a string that defines me a property of the part/assembly (e.g. date, material, etc.) and turn into template the table. when I go using the template in a new drafting the cells return the expected value (more or less, I have some string issues, but this is another speech). However, I would like this value, though provided automatically, to be editable with the populate command overwriting the automatic value. I tried, in creating the template not to block the cells in question, but still doesn't make me change them anymore. the situation is: cell with unmistakable string or blank cell to fill out, couldn't you have a cell with string but editable back?
Thank you.

 

[Utente NX]

hi to everyone, I take this thread to ask a question to who knows more than I (very many!).
use nx8 and I created a cartiglio with the program tool. I put in a cell a string that defines me a property of the part/assembly (e.g. date, material, etc.) and turn into template the table. when I go using the template in a new drafting the cells return the expected value (more or less, I have some string issues, but this is another speech). However, I would like this value, though provided automatically, to be editable with the populate command overwriting the automatic value. I tried, in creating the template not to block the cells in question, but still doesn't make me change them anymore. the situation is: cell with unmistakable string or blank cell to fill out, couldn't you have a cell with string but editable back?
Thank you.

First of all I wanted to point out that you are asking questions about a topic that does not concern the initial topic.
so I ask any moderator to create a new thread regarding this question.

Finally to give you an answer:
the nx 8 title block gives you only a chance to edit a field that turns out unlooked.
what is looked clearly you cannot edit it.
Everything works.
those unlooked are those that come from the data of the part, such as description, material, etc...or those that come from the cartiglio, such as format, scale, number of sheets, drawing, etc...
clearly I have set them looked, because I do not have to be edited in drawing environment.
not for example we do not make any compilation of the paper, everything is taken from the data of the part or from the drawing.

 

[IPdesign]

moved the request in new discussion

 

[Nous]

Sorry if I didn't open a new thread, thanks to mod x displacement.
to answer nx user, specifying that I am not very experienced and that I am not in the office to make further verification, but it seems to me that the titleblock, although I leave the unlocked field, does not allow me to change it if I insert a string with references to file properties; It's okay if there's a simple text in the cell. Do you understand?
thanks again for the answers

 

[Utente NX]

Sorry if I didn't open a new thread, thanks to mod x displacement.
to answer nx user, specifying that I am not very experienced and that I am not in the office to make further verification, but it seems to me that the titleblock, although I leave the unlocked field, does not allow me to change it if I insert a string with references to file properties; It's okay if there's a simple text in the cell. Do you understand?
thanks again for the answers

rereading my answer I noticed an Italian from elementary and therefore unclear.
the purpose of the title block is to fill out the paper with text.
what you do is put in the properties of the drawing.
if the data takes them from the parts, you have to put in the cells the string that takes the value of the part and this must become looked after.
sincerely for me the cartilage should not be compiled.
all info must reside in the part and in the table.
in the part you put material, treatments, etc. and the cartouche autocompila.
what you want to do is not contemplated and therefore you will not get the desired result and for me it is right so.
when designing, I decide the material and the rest, before making the table.
then the table is only a 2d representation of the 3d and a table showing the unseen info of the 3d.

 

[cacciatorino]

hi to everyone, I take this thread to ask a question to who knows more than I (very many!).
use nx8 and I created a cartiglio with the program tool. I put in a cell a string that defines me a property of the part/assembly (e.g. date, material, etc.) and turn into template the table. when I go using the template in a new drafting the cells return the expected value (more or less, I have some string issues, but this is another speech). However, I would like this value, though provided automatically, to be editable with the populate command overwriting the automatic value. I tried, in creating the template not to block the cells in question, but still doesn't make me change them anymore. the situation is: cell with unmistakable string or blank cell to fill out, couldn't you have a cell with string but editable back?
Thank you.

I don't know the cad in question, but I tell you how my files are made of if: each cell of the paper contains two text strings: a "parameter" that takes the data on the side, and another blank, perfectly overlapped. If I like the text taken from the 3d the parametric string is compiled and the blank below I do not see it in print. If instead I have to do some riding, I'm going to delete the parametric string and write by hand in the manual string.

 

[Nous]

First of all, excuse my forced absence.
I've done a lot of evidence, but I couldn't do what I need, so I'm going back to ask you for help and patience.
Let's start from the beginning.
to create my drawing template birth from white sheet, I put the edges and insert a table. now I have to insert into some cells of the table (which will become my cartiglio) of the strings taken from the properties of the piece of which I make the 2d (in particular material, part number, description).
first of all: do I insert the properties into the part by means of dx-properties-attributes?
second: how do I call them in the table cells?
reference to master model (<w@$sh_master_part_name>) seems to work but that to the material (<w@material>) does not go (after writing it is automatically modified <wref1*0@_material>). other commands pointing to the properties of the part I did not find either in the guide or around the web.
I found commands pointing to the properties of the sheet, but I need little and nothing.
I hope I've managed to explain myself decently, thank you all</wref1*0@_material></w@material></w@$sh_master_part_name>

 

[Utente NX]

First of all, excuse my forced absence.
I've done a lot of evidence, but I couldn't do what I need, so I'm going back to ask you for help and patience.
Let's start from the beginning.
to create my drawing template birth from white sheet, I put the edges and insert a table. now I have to insert into some cells of the table (which will become my cartiglio) of the strings taken from the properties of the piece of which I make the 2d (in particular material, part number, description).
first of all: do I insert the properties into the part by means of dx-properties-attributes?
second: how do I call them in the table cells?
reference to master model (<w@$sh_master_part_name>) seems to work but that to the material (<w@material>) does not go (after writing it is automatically modified <wref1*0@_material>). other commands pointing to the properties of the part I did not find either in the guide or around the web.
I found commands pointing to the properties of the sheet, but I need little and nothing.
I hope I've managed to explain myself decently, thank you all</wref1*0@_material></w@material></w@$sh_master_part_name>

create a part and put on the properties you need, type description, material, treatment, etc...
save and create the table with the table pointing to the data of the part and some to that of the design.. .

 

[Nous]

the concept was already more or less clear, it's the practice I care!

create a part and put on the properties you need, type description, material, treatment, etc...

I normally insert the properties in the attribute tab of the window property of the part (set dx on the part), the material however I check it from the menu of the materials then it turns out unpublished, all correct?

save and create the table with the table pointing to the data of the part and some to that of the design.. .

I can't do this! to point a table cell to the desired property I should put a reference string of the type <w@qualche cosa="">, but I have no idea what to put. For example, as I told you, I tried with <w@material>But it doesn't work!
I am sorry if there seem to be trivial questions, thank you again for the help</w@material></w@qualche>

 

[Nous]

the purpose of the title block is to fill out the paper with text.
what you do is put in the properties of the drawing.
if the data takes them from the parts, you have to put in the cells the string that takes the value of the part and this must become looked after.
sincerely for me the cartilage should not be compiled.
all info must reside in the part and in the table.
in the part you put material, treatments, etc. and the cartouche autocompila.

hi nx user, I'll answer you a bit late. I'm trying to do as you say, but I have some problems.
I press that I agree with you: the properties of the part should be given as attributes to the part itself in the 3d and simply recalled in the carts.
I tried to create a template with some cells pointing to attributes of the part (<w@nome_attributo>), but they work automatically (i.e. simply recalling the template) only if I have the table inside the part, which goes in contrast with the widely recommended master model technique.
If I open the part to put on the table, I open a new drafting file that points to that part, automatic references are all lost and I have to hand them back (import-attributes), even the date is not updated!
I suppose you're going to master model, too, so I'm asking you how to automatically fill out the paper? which commands have you used to recall attributes?
Another problem is that the titleblock created with the nx commands loses geometry so it is not converted into dxf/dwg and I have not yet found a command similar to the expand of the patterns that solved the problem, ideas about it?
Thank you.</w@nome_attributo>

 

[Utente NX]

hi nx user, I'll answer you a bit late. I'm trying to do as you say, but I have some problems.
I press that I agree with you: the properties of the part should be given as attributes to the part itself in the 3d and simply recalled in the carts.
I tried to create a template with some cells pointing to attributes of the part (<w@nome_attributo>), but they work automatically (i.e. simply recalling the template) only if I have the table inside the part, which goes in contrast with the widely recommended master model technique.
If I open the part to put on the table, I open a new drafting file that points to that part, automatic references are all lost and I have to hand them back (import-attributes), even the date is not updated!
I suppose you're going to master model, too, so I'm asking you how to automatically fill out the paper? which commands have you used to recall attributes?
Another problem is that the titleblock created with the nx commands loses geometry so it is not converted into dxf/dwg and I have not yet found a command similar to the expand of the patterns that solved the problem, ideas about it?
Thank you.</w@nome_attributo>

as well you know, nx 8 has the cartilages and sheets with the new method (general table), converted into title block.
These work, and I did.
so wrong procedure... .
the procedure is simple.
make a cube with all the properties that you will go to fill out on the table.
Put it in the table and build the title block.
save the table as a template with the tools that nx offers.
read the help and download the online cast of nx 8.
as you can download nx 8 if you are in maintenance, in the same area, under documentation, there is also the cast online.

 

[Nous]

hi nx user, thanks for the answer, unfortunately I have not yet managed to solve.
I'll tell you how I work, and if you can tell me where I'm wrong,
-I'll pick up a new part (as you said, even a cube to cabbage) to which I assign the attributes I want
-I always put it on the table with master model technique (new type drafting file referred to the above part or modeling I make assemblies-components-create new parent so I have a new assembly composed by the only part to put on the table and then step to the drafting module)
-automatically asks me what views to enter (but this I think is not important to the cartilage)
- I need edges, tables and how much I need
-I insert attributes in certain cells with dx-import-attributes key and are correctly displayed
-transform the titleblock table with dedicated command by selecting the cells to be compiled and locked
-I raise everything as a dedicated command template (without updating the pax because I prefer to do it by hand).
After all, if I call the template in a table in the cells, the properties of the part I used to create it, do not update it! !
Where am I wrong?
thanks to patience, I wait for suggestions

 

[Nous]

I think I've succeeded, I've followed up the valuable nx user advice (first I must have had pastries between the 1000 old and new templates I designed) and everything seems to work.
Would no one tell me how to make the titleblock appear in the conversion to dxf?
thanks again to user nx and all of you.

 

[Nous]

I think I talked too soon! Now something strange happens to me:
I created the template from a cube placed on the table with new-file-drawing-a1 white standard referred to the cube, creating edges and table with references to the desired attributes of the cube + a reference to an expression that gives out today's date in the gg/mm/aaa format (the formulas I send them in attachment); all saved as a referencing template (formatted table with titleblock).
if I open a part and put it on the table from new-file drawing using the template just made it updates me correctly the attributes, but the date remains that of the creation of the template (it is not updated); if instead I put it on the table as assembly of one part (assemblies-components-create new relative and step herein in front of the drafting module) correctly brings back today, but does not update my attributes.
how can I have updated attributes and date?
Excuse me again for incompetence.

p.s. light ot: which of the two methods described above is the most correct technique to put on the table a part or assy?

 

[Utente NX]

symptom/problem
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how to create a drafting template with a title block that automatically prompts
users for information to fill the title block fields.

solution/workaround
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here are the basic steps to create a template with a title block that prompts
users for entry information.
1. in nx, select 'file-->new'.
2. on the 'model' tab, select the "blank" template.
3. create an open a new part file using this template.
4. switch to the drafting application.
5. when prompted for sheet size, toggle to 'standard size' and
select the 'size' paper needed for this template.
6. ok the sheet dialog.
7. select 'tools-->drawing format-->borders and zones'.
set the desired options to create the borders and zones on the sheet.
8. ok the borders and zones dialog.
9. select 'insert-->table-->tabular note'.
place a table on the drawing.
note: this will be the title block.
10. customize the tabular note as needed to create the title block.
define all the cells in the tabular note so it will reflect all
the necessary title block information that is needed.
note1: more than one tabular note can be used.
note2: part attributes and sheet attributes can be entered in the
tabular note cells that will automatically populate with
drawing/sheet information. a listing of sheet attributes is
available in the nx help document titled "automatic text".
11. modify the style of each cell so the desired font, character size,
and color of the text is set as desired.
12. once the tabular note is ready to be a title block, select
'tools-->drawing format-->title block'.
13. select the tabular note(s) that will be the title block.
note: more than one table can be selected to make a single title block.
14. all the cells of the table(s) will populate into the
define title block dialog.
15. highlight each row the represents a cell that will need to be
locked and toggle the 'lock' option on.
16. highlight a row that represents a cell that will prompt users
for information.
17. enter a new 'cell label' that will tell users what information is
needed for this cell.
for example, change 'cell label' to: enter drafters name
18. sort the cells in the desired order by highlighting a row and
selecting the 'move up' or 'move down' arrows.
note: usually cells that will be prompting for information are at the top.
19. ok the define title block dialog.
20. select 'tools-->drawing format-->mark as template'.
21. toggle to 'mark as template and update pax file'.
22. enter the 'presentation name', 'description', and 'template type'.
23. browse and select the pax file to add this template.
most likely the ...\ugii\templates\ugs_drawing_templates.pax or
the ugs_sheet_templates.pax.
24. ok the mark as template dialog.

the template will now be available on the 'drawing' tab of the 'file-->new'
dialog (or as a sheet template, as you specified in step 23).
as long as the below option is set in customer defaults, this template is used,
the user will automatically be prompted to enter the necessary
information to populate the title block.

note: be sure to set the following customer default so users are prompted to
enter title block information.
1. in nx, select, 'file-->utilities-->customer defaults'.
2. expand 'drafting'.
3. highlight 'drawing'.
4. select the 'title block' tab.
5. toggle on 'display populate title block dialog on template instantiation'.
6. ok out the dialogs.
7. re-start nx.

 

[pietro_pima2]

Hi.
to create a templete to associate attributes like material descriptions?
thanks to all

 

[The_Matrix]

Hi.
to create a templete to associate attributes like material descriptions?
thanks to all

http://vimeopro.com/phoenxplm/tips-and-trickssearch for videos with drafting template.
There are 8 explaining everything from template setup to pax