plate development with space claim.

[e.ferriani]

Hello, everyone. Give me a hand if I don't throw the pc, cd comresi, out the window.
I have a simple domandina: how do I put the development of a sheet metal part bent within a two-dimensional child. I explain: I designed my 3d model of sheet metal and put it in a paper mill. now I would like to put on the development, but I did not find a smart way to do it, if not copying the solids that are created "explaining" the part and pasting them into the starting model in a new component. In this way, however, the synchronism between the 3d and the glued development is lost. possible that who designed the sw tpensed in the way of doing it?

 

[Matteo]

hi, I did not understand the question very well (and in particular if you refer to sc or the instruments falling in general). to put on the table a sheet "explained" you have to choose "create new design from the side", where the part is the cad model obtained through the command "unfold" (the one you see here at minute 2:40, http://www.caedevice.net/spaceclaim/video/spaceclaim2009_sheetmetal_20090820.wmv).

I take advantage of it to report that within a few days (or a few hours) will be released the new release of sc with some improvements of the sheetmetal environment.

 

[atofras]

I got it.
Hi.

 

[Matteo]

I got it.
Hi.

the question or the answer? :

if you refer to the answer, in summary:

1. model unfold
2. step to the developed model window
3. from the least "new" I choose "active model table"

 

[e.ferriani]

but if I write in the section space claim, of which I say... ?
I try to be clearer. This is space claim. I would like to put on the table the folded sheet and the slide in the same sheet. as I said I didn't find a way to do it, except in a "illegal" way.
In practice, I designed the sheet with the various folds, then I did "explain" to get the development, and at this point I find three folders in my file: one is the 3d of the bending, one is the table with the cartilage, ono is the development. in the drawing sheet I would like to appear besides the drawing with the folded piece and the dimensions resulting from the fold also the developed sheet, without the folds, in short stretched.
I have tried in every way, even if I measure the development in a new component and outsource it, but nothing. the only way is to copy the solid "n" that creates development and paste them into a new component (e.g. "development") into the folded 3d file structure. In this way you can make both views appear. the problem is that by copying/paste you lose synchronism between the components and if I change the bending then I should do everything from head, requoting everything.
It doesn't sound smart to me.

 

[Matteo]

but if I write in the section space claim, of which I say... ?
I try to be clearer. This is space claim. I would like to put on the table the folded sheet and the slide in the same sheet. as I said I didn't find a way to do it, except in a "illegal" way.
In practice, I designed the sheet with the various folds, then I did "explain" to get the development, and at this point I find three folders in my file: one is the 3d of the bending, one is the table with the cartilage, ono is the development. in the drawing sheet I would like to appear besides the drawing with the folded piece and the dimensions resulting from the fold also the developed sheet, without the folds, in short stretched.
I have tried in every way, even if I measure the development in a new component and outsource it, but nothing. the only way is to copy the solid "n" that creates development and paste them into a new component (e.g. "development") into the folded 3d file structure. In this way you can make both views appear. the problem is that by copying/paste you lose synchronism between the components and if I change the bending then I should do everything from head, requoting everything.
It doesn't sound smart to me.

Okay, now I get it.

you need a 2d design in which 2 models are represented (with reference to two different parts: folded and developed).
I have never had this requirement because I use sc especially for managing geoemtria for the fem, integration with rhino/rendering, sketch drawings, preliminary design studies (in these sectors sc is smarter than as software for the production of constructive tables, not being born for that).

I'll go right away to see if you can what you ask and possibly I'll give you an alternative way to maintain (as it is right to expect) the partner/table2d.

 

[Matteo]

I checked: with the 2009 version of sc it is not possible to insert two different models in a 2d design (sc was born as a geometry management tool for fem/cfd/rendering/prototiping/stampi, only from the r6, sc2010, the tools for construction design were miljugated).

There would be a chance to find an alternative way through the assemblies, but as a user my advice is not to insist on using software outside its "application" world, you would lose time for nothing!

If you just can't help it, I can get you in touch with the person who deals with bees (sometimes two lines of code are enough): What are you up to? available also via mp.

Hi.
Matteo

 

[e.ferriani]

bees? What's that?

I use this cad because they told me there's this. I used solid edge and regret it a lot more every day. He does the same, he came to keep it that way.
Thank you.

 

[Matteo]

bees? What's that?

I use this cad because they told me there's this. I used solid edge and regret it a lot more every day. He does the same, he came to keep it that way.
Thank you.

I believe that there is a communication problem between who has chosen the cad (and surely will know what is a var) and who uses it (I assume the technical office): Maybe that's why you regret it.
I also repeat here: each cad has strengths (if for example a great generic cad for design, while sc is a transversal cad that lends itself to do cad interface to numerous cam software and not only), the choice of the tool should make it who uses it. would be like to complain about the performance of the slippers claiming to be used to mountaineering or to say that mountain boots bother the beach

a curiosity (possibly via mp): from whom have you watered sc?

Hi.
Matteo