print 1: 50 scale odds

[ciuffi]

hi! I ask you help, that you are more experienced than my classmates. I'm doing the maturity tesin, I did the sections of a house in scale 1:50, the odds, do I have to scale 1:50 or 1:100?
I do not know if I explained well, example: the height of the ceiling is 3m in reality, in the design, the quota put 3m or put 6m, since it is in scale 1:50?
Help me, save me:

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

I'm sorry for the frankness, but I think you understood very little drawing!

said this if taken a drawing you see the height of the ceiling at 6 meters from the ground, and the scale of the design is not reported, how high will you do it?

 

[ciuffi]

I'm sorry for the frankness, but I think you understood very little drawing!

said this if taken a drawing you see the height of the ceiling at 6 meters from the ground, and the scale of the design is not reported, how high will you do it?

I understand, what I meant is that, the design is 1:50 scale, i.e. if you mix a door is 4,20m high instead of 2,10m. the odds that I insert therefore must be in scale 1:100 right?

 

[Cristallo]

I do not know if I explained well, example: the height of the ceiling is 3m in reality, in the design, the quota put 3m or put 6m, since it is in scale 1:50?
Help me, save me:

a- serious answer (for pure human charity): you have to put 3m;
b- response from the soul: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9yikg5bmoa - I'm so worried!

 

[Tristan]

I understand, what I meant is that, the design is 1:50 scale, i.e. if you mix a door is 4,20m high instead of 2,10m. the odds that I insert therefore must be in scale 1:100 right?

and then they say that young people from 14 to 25 are almost all unemployed?
I share the mood of crystal and I say only one thing: If your condition is this or your teacher is a real dog to explain or in these years you have not applied enough, at least in drawing! probably the truth is in the middle.. .

 

[ciuffi]

and then they say that young people from 14 to 25 are almost all unemployed?
I share the mood of crystal and I say only one thing: If your condition is this or your teacher is a real dog to explain or in these years you have not applied enough, at least in drawing! probably the truth is in the middle.. .

Then you wonder how some people have done to pass from high school when they don't know about things of general culture -- if you've made it you can do it myself!
It is obvious that 14 years old and 15 years old are unemployed, you can start working for 16 years because until then there is the compulsory school! It is not knowing a specific thing of a matter, but it means not knowing to be in the world.

 

[cicciopiccio]

hi! I ask you help, that you are more experienced than my classmates. I'm doing the maturity tesin, I did the sections of a house in scale 1:50, the odds, do I have to scale 1:50 or 1:100?
I do not know if I explained well, example: the height of the ceiling is 3m in reality, in the design, the quota put 3m or put 6m, since it is in scale 1:50?
Help me, save me:

the design realizes it in the 1:1 scale model space, regardless of whether you have chosen as a measuring unit the m,cm or mm.
then the quoti, and the value reported from the quota will be 3,300 or 3000 depending on whether you have drawn in m,cm or mm. therefore ultimately the value of the quota always expresses those that are the real dimensions of the object.

and then they say that young people from 14 to 25 are almost all unemployed?

we must not make savants and generalize on all young people, also because there is who is good and prepared perhaps more than you. the reasons why today many are unemployed are well other... so I would be careful when I place the answers, even because you are not obliged to answer. . .

 

[ciuffi]

the design realizes it in the 1:1 scale model space, regardless of whether you have chosen as a measuring unit the m,cm or mm.
then the quoti, and the value reported from the quota will be 3,300 or 3000 depending on whether you have drawn in m,cm or mm. therefore ultimately the value of the quota always expresses those that are the real dimensions of the object.



we must not make savants and generalize on all young people, also because there is who is good and prepared perhaps more than you. the reasons why today many are unemployed are well other... so I would be careful when I place the answers, even because you are not obliged to answer. . .

Thank you very much for the answer! Congratulations!

 

[Tristan]

It is obvious that 14 years old and 15 years old are unemployed, you can start working for 16 years because until then there is the compulsory school! It is not knowing a specific thing of a matter, but it means not knowing to be in the world.

It is a pity that the istat report on unemployment reports as a critical age group between 15 and 24 years. Who is out of the world? You know what the call is, right?

we must not make savants and generalize on all young people, also because there is who is good and prepared perhaps more than you. the reasons why today many are unemployed are well other... so I would be careful when I place the answers, even because you are not obliged to answer. . .

You're right, generalizing is wrong. of course there are also very well-prepared young people (more than we doubt it, but this is a problem of the Italian school not attributable to students), as there are boys who come to maturity knowing how sick the abc because they lived behind those who knew more of them. only when you have reached a age and experience you realize that copying or passing tasks in class to friends is a big mistake, and you hurt them and yourself.

 

[ciuffi]

and I just wanted to know how to print the odds. .

 

[Tristan]

Your problem is not how to print the odds, that's what I want you to understand! You're missing the basics. from how you put the question you can see that you have at least no idea how to document a design. if the loft is at altitude + 3.00m why should you insert a quota with text = to 6m?? What if the representation is 50, 100 or 1000? ? ?

 

[Joseph]

I'm doing the maturity tesin, I did the sections of a house in scale 1:50, the odds, do I have to scale 1:50 or 1:100?possible that, in a course of 5 years, you never happened to draw and print a section (any) listed, in scale 1:50 (or other) and that, instead, the problem arises, suddenly and painfully, a few days after maturity?
I am putting myself in the shoes of your teacher (I don't struggle, after 30 years of teaching in specific matter) when you ask him a similar question.
I hope, for your tranquility, that it's the only doubt that you've been left and ... good luck for the "State examination".

note aside.
well did the legislators leave the definition "examination of maturity"to not have to be forced to make final judgments to say little embarrassing about the sufficient degree of "maturity" of certain candidates)

 

[Cristallo]

and I just wanted to know how to print the odds. .

you see tufts, it will seem like an exaggeration, but the little tones of certain answers (and here I answer also to fathom) serve more to you than to those who the answers piccate them.

the serious problem that is inherent in this discussion (back to fat) is not if you know the answer you give, if you do not know you do not give it. It's not a cheap TV quiz. quickly solve the "existential dilemma" of tufts, will put it under conditions (today, not today) that the colleague or boss will take it for the butt.
or that will put a quota of 6000 to a piece of 600 because (in the head to him) drew in scale 1:10.
our tufts have so committed to "understanding", that rather than going to review what is a scale report, you made the inscription to a forum. Let's imagine when you find yourself having to multiply 3 different scale factors (drawing-layout-print); it will become for him a three incognite equation:biggrin:.
p.s.
There is no legal bond, which forces me to draw in model 1:1. so I could safely draw in scale 1:25 in millimeters (for example) in the model, without making any error neither formal nor substantial.

 

[cicciopiccio]

you see tufts, it will seem like an exaggeration, but the little tones of certain answers (and here I answer also to fathom) serve more to you than to those who the answers piccate them.

the serious problem that is inherent in this discussion (back to fat) is not if you know the answer you give, if you do not know you do not give it. It's not a cheap TV quiz. quickly solve the "existential dilemma" of tufts, will put it under conditions (today, not today) that the colleague or boss will take it for the butt.
or that will put a quota of 6000 to a piece of 600 because (in the head to him) drew in scale 1:10.
our tufts have so committed to "understanding", that rather than going to review what is a scale report, you made the inscription to a forum. Let's imagine when you find yourself having to multiply 3 different scale factors (drawing-layout-print); it will become for him a three incognite equation:biggrin:.

It is clear that in a thread of a forum you cannot understand one of the most hostical topics for most users, namely the print scale, and not only but also the scale in general. but an answer if exact and motivated can be of help and as a starting point even to those of this software understand little or nothing. so instead of preaching unnecessarily and morally only because you have a few more years of experience behind you do first to respond and just, otherwise you can also not waste time on this forum.

p.s.
There is no legal bond, which forces me to draw in model 1:1. so I could safely draw in scale 1:25 in millimeters (for example) in the model, without making any error neither formal nor substantial.

I know that in the model space there is no constraint and you can draw the object already in scale as you want. But then tell me what sense does it have? is absolutely foolish and would be a big waste of time and nerves... the model space was designed to draw the object in its real size, then if one wants to break the head face as well...

 

[Tristan]

It is clear that in a thread of a forum you cannot understand one of the most hostical topics for most users, namely the print scale, and not only but also the scale in general.

I'm sorry to tell you, but obviously you didn't understand anything about what cuffs he asked! here the problem is not the print scale! but did you read the posts or did you pretend?? you are right about the fact that it is not mandatory to answer, but this also applies to you especially if you do not understand what you are talking about!

 

[Tristan]

but an answer if exact and motivated can be of help and as a starting point even to those of this software understand little or nothing.

do you not understand that here the problem is not in the software?! It has nothing to do with autocad in this context, its doubt would have been identical even if it had drawn on paper!

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

It is clear that in a thread of a forum you cannot understand one of the most hostical topics for most users, namely the print scale, and not only but also the scale in general.

the problem, of tufts, is logical, not of program. If he drew by hand he would have the same problem. that of quotation and scale ratio should not learn it on a forum, but at school. Your fault? Professor? at the moment has little importance; is talking about a boy who after 4-5 years or has never made a drawing with scale other than 1:1 or has been referred to by divine providence and who is not even able to compare and analyze other designs. and notices just before a thesis

but an answer if exact and motivated can be of help and as a base of departure even to those of this software understand little or nothing

I completely disagree. the exact answer goes well if you look for a technical factor where with logic you do not get (the responses are not lacking too since you can often find them on the online guides that many do not even look at); Otherwise you have to try to bring the person to the solution with his forces. you have given the answer to tufts (which once obtained among other things does not perish even his cause and is spit and satisfied), do you think he has reflected on the motivation? I doubt it.. but I am polemical Bastiancontrary and mistrusted.

so instead of preaching unnecessarily and morally only because you have a few more years of experience behind you do first to respond and just, otherwise you can also not waste time on this forum.

considering that in many times they do it lost and/or removing resources at work I would say that it is not a good exit.

staying on the subject of students and their known questions that often ask questions like "my exercise asks me to do...; what does it mean" or "the prof has given me to do...; how do I do it", what is the problem to ask for explanations about things that have not been understood to whom by trade explains these things or has given them in charge? Why do you ask here how to do a section (however more than legitimate) you do not ask the professor to answer perhaps with practical examples? and I do not speak of circumstantial questions to which to limate some doubt, but of own and true whirlwinds of knowledge.

I'm gonna run out, and now I'm gonna grab a couple of beers. prosit

 

[Cristallo]

... the model space was designed to draw the object in its real size, then if one wants to break the head face as well...

I allow myself to do the creepy, to make understand a concept that is very unknown.
the model space was not "thought for". the model space is the space of autocad, since it was born.
is the paper space that has been added after, as ease, as comfort. but the scale problem remains the same.
You have to see that joy when some big astrologer of the drawing to the cad, draws a metro station (civil works I mean) in mm. you find yourself with a 3000-long panel, where you go to the layout and misuri, it becomes 300 because eventually uses a 2:1 print scale to print it at 50... and you have to insert that design into a georeferentiated paper (which is normally 1unita=1m... )
or when you iron an element in the model and (thought) that is all right. sin that the element came out of the layout window and no longer enters the table... then edit to the layout, windows and away.

Unfortunately, the speech you do is valid when you only deal with yourself.
Instead the way is varied and many do not want a dwg that recalls another dwg (xref), designed 1:1 with layout layout layout layout layout, because they are quite ignorant of the program to just open a drawing measure and print.
you know how many, with a 1:50 drawing in the layout they call you to say:
♪The design is wrong... I mix the cover is wide 21, I mix the 1m long element (which should be 2cm in scale at 50) instead I measure 1.. but that you combined!" and you have to explain to him that when you mix an item that is in the autocad model you return the model measurement, while if you minuri a layout element returns the layout measurement, which you have to trust and that the design is correct in the printing stage.. .
They don't want to know. . .

I'm gonna run out, and now I'm gonna grab a couple of beers. prosit

beg a te, massi

 

[Cristallo]

so instead of preaching unnecessarily and morally only because you have a few more years of experience behind you do first to respond and just, otherwise you can also not waste time on this forum.

I read it later, so I answer later...
because you have experience, you can do morals.
and if a person is intelligent, he embraces that moral and does it his own, because he comes to someone who is regalando his experience.
If you don't care, you can avoid receiving it, and your experience will do it yourself. but sickness of your pocket (figures of mmm with the head, taken for the cube of the colleagues, to the limit some dismissal. . )