problem in vintage

[TECNOMODEL]

Here I am again asking for your help.
coming from inventor I'm struggling a lot to use the sketch of toptron, so I ask for some suggestions.
1st problem: if I do the offset of a curve I get a completely unscrupulous entity. I think it's pretty crazy, that offset is if I can drag a curve and get it all up? I'm wrong, and there's a chance to get out the bound offset curve like it should be?
2nd problem: any entity obtained from projection or intersection of geometry is not usable, for example, to attach curves to the central point.
In inventor I often used the average point of a reference entity to hook sketch entities, how do you work on toptron to do so?
I hope you can help me.

 

[cimaguy]

can you post an example file? I don't understand the problem well

 

[TECNOMODEL]

Here is a very trivial example.
in the sketch I created a rectangle that is completely bound.
I make an offset of the same and the rectangle I get is completely unscrew, despite I have defined the offset with a quota.in this way to bind it I have to go to add another 4 odds at least.
It seems strange to me that there is no way to create an offset entity that is completely bound.

 

[cimaguy]

I don't think you can do what you mean....have you tried to hear the help desk microsystem?

 

[Godzuky]

hi technomodel, I tried to find you a solution even if maybe not really orthodox.

I hope you can help!

Bye!

 

[TECNOMODEL]

hi technomodel, I tried to find you a solution even if maybe not really orthodox.

I hope you can help!

Bye!

good idea, usable however only with simple geometries.
Imagine having a profile consisting of straights, bows and maybe spline and having to offset it.

 

[Godzuky]

This is much more complex, but above all it is much longer to implement, do not execute a command that does it live, once the offset runs, you must define the offset distances for each single segment or curve present in the profile to be able to return to define it bound.

Look at the sketcher15.

Bye!

 

[TECNOMODEL]

Actually the command exists, the problem is that it does something absurd.
creates the curve to an offset that can be defined, then the same does not even have a constraint.
therefore has the same utility of creating any line.
The strange thing is that the same command in wireframe works well, you don't understand why you can't do the same thing in sketches.

 

[Godzuky]

Maybe in a next version they will integrate this additional functionality to the offset command.

I would like to see a practical example of the offset you are talking about, provided that this does not violate any copyright.

Bye!

 

[TECNOMODEL]

the software I used in the past did not have this limitation, the offset command creates an entity equal to the one selected at a defined distance.
all already perfectly bound. a command to do what with toptron requires an infinity of click... .

 

[Godzuky]

then the only thing is or wait, or change sw.

Bye!

 

[LaboratorioDieci]

probably the correct solution on toptron is not to use the sketch, but the offset command of the curves.

 

[dallaz]

1) the best solution is to confirm the sketch, and then use the wireframe->offset command to create a dedicated feature.
2) to extract the average point, when you are inside the sketch, just use the "add reference" command and click the average point to import into the sketch, then confirm with the mouse wheel. if you prefer automatic references, you can activate them from sketcher tools->contact automatic references.

if you need, send me a request for assistance on the website 3d systems software.
I will be happy to give you some delucidations, and also indicate where you can find manuals in Italian.

Bye!

 

[TECNOMODEL]

1) the best solution is to confirm the sketch, and then use the wireframe->offset command to create a dedicated feature.
2) to extract the average point, when you are inside the sketch, just use the "add reference" command and click the average point to import into the sketch, then confirm with the mouse wheel. if you prefer automatic references, you can activate them from sketcher tools->contact automatic references.

if you need, send me a request for assistance on the website 3d systems software.
I will be happy to give you some delucidations, and also indicate where you can find manuals in Italian.

Bye!

thanks for the answer, for the manuals in Italian it would be convenient to have them.
Can you tell me where to find them? even in private if it is not possible to do so publicly.
to send you a request on 3d systems I should know your name.

 

[dallaz]

thanks for the answer, for the manuals in Italian it would be convenient to have them.
Can you tell me where to find them? even in private if it is not possible to do so publicly.
to send you a request on 3d systems I should know your name.

Hi, I'll write you in pvt!

 

[TECNOMODEL]

good morning to all, the sketch of toptron continues to be ostic to me, despite over 3 years of daily use of the software.
the problem I can't solve is how to determine which entity of a sketch has lost the references.
example, very trivial, today:
I have a sketch that I go to hook up to the projection of the center of a part, of course nn the part on which I am working.
for mysterious reasons, copying the project, this reference is broken, so my sketch will no longer follow the part to which it should be hooked in case of moving the latter.
the difficulty I find is on how to solve this reference loss, I don't find a tool that analyzes the feature, so I can't determine which geometry I should erase, project again and then bind us the sketch.
How do you do these things? do not tell me that it is necessary to delete everything and do it again, it would really be an un acceptable limit for a product for which you pay a license, and not even cheap.