problem with welded: do we signal it all?

[re_solidworks]

Hi, I have a problem that ties me with the welded. I point out that my report to my dealer is dated 20 May 2010 and there is no solution yet.
I describe how to repropose the problem that arises from 2010 sp 3.0.
build a welded, fill out the folders for the cut distinction. at this point with mirror part create the left version of this welded and in order to successfully execute the table you have to enter the function of welds, so that you can fill again the separate cut. at this point you will notice that the folders are compiled by themselves in reference to the right version without leaving you the possibility of manual intervention. apart from the fact that the compilation of the folders of the symmetrical part is incorrect because there is no synchronism between the right component and the left component, this approach is wrong.
I check a code and that code changes if the body is symmetrical than the original. At this point I'm stuck and swx doesn't allow me to do anything.
Now to create the symmetrical parts I find myself having to remodel the welded top.
the signal has been taken up with high priority, but as you see it has passed 3 and a half months and are still here with this problem.

the service pack 2.1, the last one who did not have this problem, has me a little desperate for various problems especially of reliability and stability and I would not want to return to this sp.

I kindly ask users in assistance to report the problem to the swx and to break their boxes as much as possible for the resolution of this bug.

thanks and good day.

 

[SolidUser]

apologies, if it also amounts the properties of the mirrored part it is clear that there remains a link to the original.
If you want to edit the description, you don't have to import the properties.
you would like to import the property, but to be able to give it up?
or I didn't understand anything.
I need a small example and a description of what you want but you are not given the chance.

 

[re_solidworks]

apologies, if it also amounts the properties of the mirrored part it is clear that there remains a link to the original.
If you want to edit the description, you don't have to import the properties.
you would like to import the property, but to be able to give it up?
or I didn't understand anything.
I need a small example and a description of what you want but you are not given the chance.

I should be able to edit the properties of the folders of the bodies obtained with welds to correctly fill out the separate cut. I attach a banal example in which:

1- I created a right welded
2- I selected the welded plan1 and clicked insert->specchia part
3- I saved the new symmetrical part by calling it left
4- I entered the welding function on the left side thus obtaining the list for the separate cut and having the possibility to create an independent table.

on the right side I deliberately made a sheet (pos. 10) which in the left part becomes symmetrical and not equal and I nailed it right. if I try to change the properties of the folder of the left side you can not as these are "weighted" on the right side without giving the possibility of change. the result is that even in the left part the sheet is called "right" and this is wrong.
In a case like this I should put a different code between the two plates but I can't do it because the operation is blocked.
as I have already written the swx has taken charge of the problem but it seems there are few reports and therefore we will have to hold it for a nice piece.

 

[SolidUser]

as from attached image.
If, that's what you want, then I'll explain, as I did, otherwise I haven't understood yet.

 

[Mike1967]

I should be able to edit the properties of the folders of the bodies obtained with welds to correctly fill out the separate cut. I attach a banal example in which:

1- I created a right welded
2- I selected the welded plan1 and clicked insert->specchia part
3- I saved the new symmetrical part by calling it left
4- I entered the welding function on the left side thus obtaining the list for the separate cut and having the possibility to create an independent table.
on the right side I deliberately made a sheet (pos. 10) that in the left part becomes symmetrical and not equal and I have right nail. if I try to change the properties of the folder of the left side you can not as these are "weighted" on the right side without giving the possibility of change. the result is that even in the left part the sheet is called "right" and this is wrong.
In a case like this I should put a different code between the two plates but I can't do it because the operation is blocked.
as I have already written the swx has taken charge of the problem but it seems there are few reports and therefore we will have to hold it for a nice piece.

but, it is not made with sheet function, it is a simple extrusion.
try to turn it into sheet metal and see if in the mirror you can
flatten.

 

[SolidUser]

but, it is not made with sheet function, it is a simple extrusion.
try to turn it into sheet metal and see if in the mirror you can
flatten.

Mike, you didn't understand the request.
the request is to edit the properties of the cutlist in the mirrored part.

 

[cacciatorino]

as from attached image.
If, that's what you want, then I'll explain, as I did, otherwise I haven't understood yet.

How did you solve this?

 

[Mike1967]

Mike, you didn't understand the request.
the request is to edit the properties of the cutlist in the mirrored part.

no, no, I understood very well (every one I understand too:biggrin, only
That's what I care about.
Anyway, put the solution, I'm curious.
I am beginning to use often welded and if it can improve compilation
of the cutting parts so much better.

 

[re_solidworks]

as from attached image.
If, that's what you want, then I'll explain, as I did, otherwise I haven't understood yet.

I can read in the image that shows the edit mask and I would say that you centered the problem. How did you do that? if you do 2-3 ctrl+q with the dx parts and open left remains in place or back as the right? because if I'm creating a big carpentry I can have the need to open them both in a structure assembly and have the need for a force regen.

Hello and thank you again.

 

[re_solidworks]

but, it is not made with sheet function, it is a simple extrusion.
try to turn it into sheet metal and see if in the mirror you can
flatten.

I have not yet started using multibody sheets. to produce an object I need to assign it a code and it helps me have a template file and a table file that is called as the code (both that the file is generated by hand or with the pdm).

starting from this assumption I prefer to extract the body from the welded, assign them a code and add the functions of sheet metal on the extracted body.
pdm has automatisms that speed up this phase of extraction and maintain the synchronicity between the anagraphs of the extracted parts and the anagrams of the body folders.

the big advantage is to create few files and very quickly at the beginning of the project and only after the definitive approval extract the bodies and complete the details.

It is not a method that I always use, only in carpenters with prevalence of profiles in which thanks to the function of strttural member the frames are generated very quickly.

If you will solve this hinge of the leftists I think to try this system even where there is prevalence of sheet metal, I think in many cases it is really practical.

I do not feel I recommend it "handed" but with the help of the tools I have is valid.

 

[Mike1967]

Cut.

Thank you for the answer!
Unfortunately, in the sheet metal department they still have to work. . we'll see, maybe in
version 2020 .... :biggrin:

 

[SolidUser]

I can read in the image that shows the edit mask and I would say that you centered the problem. How did you do that? if you do 2-3 ctrl+q with the dx parts and open left remains in place or back as the right? because if I'm creating a big carpentry I can have the need to open them both in a structure assembly and have the need for a force regen.

Hello and thank you again.

I'm sorry I'm late, but I've done more evidence.
only works if you don't do the ctrl+q.
I knew it from the beginning, but I was hoping you didn't use force regen, so when I read your answer I made other attempts.
I will look for solutions in case there were, so this request remains pending.
in case, I will make an er if you have not yet made it and we will make it vote to all users of cad3d, penalty, banno.:biggrin:

 

[re_solidworks]

I'm sorry I'm late, but I've done more evidence.
only works if you don't do the ctrl+q.
I knew it from the beginning, but I was hoping you didn't use force regen, so when I read your answer I made other attempts.
I will look for solutions in case there were, so this request remains pending.
in case, I will make an er if you have not yet made it and we will make it vote to all users of cad3d, penalty, banno.:biggrin:

Thank you again for the time you have devoted to my problem. I reported the two sr numbers in the discuztion / survey you opened.

Hi.