radial pattern ? ?

[cacciatorino]

I have a device in which on a central spindle are mounted groups that move radially. as the groups are several, I placed one and then the others I inserted them with the radial pattern function.

Now I have the problem that the radial pattern function is assigned a seemingly random radius, of the type r=658,43573241. Now I would like to impose the position of the origin of this repeated group and give it a realistic value, so that by changing the value of the radius quota, I can represent the axieme with the extracted groups or portraits (for example, being able to represent the groups to r=850 or r=1000, with r calculated compared to a point I chose). Is that possible?

I honestly don't know where modeling goes to get that value of the radius, maybe it's the center of gravity? the volume center? The online guide is really evasive on this subject....

 

[MFT]

I have a device in which on a central spindle are mounted groups that move radially. as the groups are several, I placed one and then the others I inserted them with the radial pattern function.

Now I have the problem that the radial pattern function is assigned a seemingly random radius, of the type r=658,43573241. Now I would like to impose the position of the origin of this repeated group and give it a realistic value, so that by changing the value of the radius quota, I can represent the axieme with the extracted groups or portraits (for example, being able to represent the groups to r=850 or r=1000, with r calculated compared to a point I chose). Is that possible?

I honestly don't know where modeling goes to get that value of the radius, maybe it's the center of gravity? the volume center? The online guide is really evasive on this subject....

I understand that you mean but sincerely I have always considered the radial pattern for work while for a group or part I don't think it can be done.
but the pattern with the groups you created it and how?

 

[cacciatorino]

I understand that you mean but sincerely I have always considered the radial pattern for work while for a group or part I don't think it can be done.
but the pattern with the groups you created it and how?

Yes, you can create patterns of components in the environment together... .

Does anyone want to buy a modeling license?

 

[MFT]

Yes, you can create patterns of components in the environment together... .

Does anyone want to buy a modeling license?

I have 16 but how did you do that?
but if you managed to do the pattern on the casulae radius then you can't change it from the command as if it were for the holes

 

[cacciatorino]

I have 16 but how did you do that?
but if you managed to do the pattern on the casulae radius then you can't change it from the command as if it were for the holes

I'm using 17.0 to make an axieme pattern use the command you find under the machining, it's the same command, only if you select a part instead of a processing.

The problem is that if the point of interest is 500 mm radius and he has calculated that instead his functional radius is 436,789435, you put that I want my point of interest to go 750, what do I have to give him as a functional radius?
Do I have to make a proportion? Should I give him the boost? Secret mystery!

 

[MFT]

I'm using 17.0 to make an axieme pattern use the command you find under the machining, it's the same command, only if you select a part instead of a processing.

The problem is that if the point of interest is 500 mm radius and he has calculated that instead his functional radius is 436,789435, you put that I want my point of interest to go 750, what do I have to give him as a functional radius?
Do I have to make a proportion? Should I give him the boost? Secret mystery!

I'm cerfcando to do it myself but in machining that I have to use snatching faces? I don't get the pattern.

 

[cacciatorino]

I'm cerfcando to do it myself but in machining that I have to use snatching faces? I don't get the pattern.

I'll get you an image, I hope it's understandable!

 

[MFT]

Clearly it is only clear that to me when I do pattern tells me that it is not a workmanship and does not do it to me.
But I'm sorry when you do that, you can't enter the ray you need to delete what he puts and writes that he doesn't accept it?

 

[cacciatorino]

Clearly it is only clear that to me when I do pattern tells me that it is not a workmanship and does not do it to me.
But I'm sorry when you do that, you can't enter the ray you need to delete what he puts and writes that he doesn't accept it?

Maybe the component pattern is a novelty of 17.

If I reach the radius, move the piece to the new radius, taking I don't know what point of reference. I'm starting to be a little tired, I think I'm going home! :frown:

 

[MFT]

Maybe the component pattern is a novelty of 17.

If I reach the radius, move the piece to the new radius, taking I don't know what point of reference. I'm starting to be a little tired, I think I'm going home! :frown:

well but the center will always be what you chose I think he moves on concentric circles with center what you had chosen as the first

 

[cacciatorino]

well but the center will always be what you chose I think he moves on concentric circles with center what you had chosen as the first

In fact: if you forge the value of the radius, the center of the pattern is not moved, but well the object to make the series. If that's the polls that the radius must be "800", modeling takes the center of this object, and puts it 800 mm from the chosen axis. My problem is, I don't know where he's going to take this remarkable "center" point. I think it's the mass center or the volume center because for axial symmetrical objects (vites, bolts, etc.) everything works well.

 

[Parametric_Ozzy]

Yes, you can create patterns of components in the environment together... .

Does anyone want to buy a modeling license?

ah ah povero caccia!
Scandalous thing...

 

[MFT]

In fact: if you forge the value of the radius, the center of the pattern is not moved, but well the object to make the series. If that's the polls that the radius must be "800", modeling takes the center of this object, and puts it 800 mm from the chosen axis. My problem is, I don't know where he's going to take this remarkable "center" point. I think it's the mass center or the volume center because for axial symmetrical objects (vites, bolts, etc.) everything works well.

ah I understand, you mean the center of the model or group containing the various parts.
I also believe that the center is the mass one, I looked at the help but it does not say anything about it.
you tried to hear the ones you took the license from, or you have to ask the German forum.

 

[cacciatorino]

you tried to hear the ones you took the license from, or you have to ask the German forum.

Not yet, because if I go to the ptc.com website my username is only associated with the model manager, you see they still have to update the customer database. so far I used the client's osd license, my staff just bought it.

Then it seems to me that the maintenance fee covers only updates and the help on the ptc.com website, while to have the telephone assistance of the dealer it serves an additional contract (other details of the "different thinking" of cocreate! ), so for now I avoid to call my dealer.

I try to hear about cad.de, maybe they know something more, then I let them know.

 

[cacciatorino]

So, I created a simplified geometry and tested:

the point on which modeling calculates the radius is the average point of the "bounding box" which contains the part/subassieme to be repeated along the pattern. that is he creates a virtual cube that contains this part, and calculates the radius of the pattern as a distance between the axis of rotation and the center of this cube.

I'll have to invent something else to control the location of these repeated geometries.