rai and surface relationship - triangular areas - 2017

[edos90]

Good morning to all,
Surely it is a sad and retrite subject, but I would like to start a discussion to try to understand how and if it were possible to do better.

I have just delivered a permit to build for a small building thanks to the support of an expert in the craft (which I thank very much in case you read me)

the result in regards to you and surfaces was great but I would like to understand if you can do better.

we managed to create an automated table for the rai, despite the numerous problems due to the multitude of parameters required by the Milan building regulation but accepting some graphic compromises
http://i.imgur.com/eyogmhf.pngI would like to understand if it is possible:
- prevent the local area and name from repeating when there are two or more windows.
- highlight the total result for each room more decisively.

but the real problem is the demonstration of the surfaces that were made through the export of a report on the premises. Apart from the fact that it is not possible to organize the export in a bim way (I had to eliminate for each floor all the premises not interested to export the single apartment and avoid that they were all piled together) the result was a bunch of about 250 pages definitely not practical and difficult to consult.

Is there another system? How could you do that? How are you doing?

In short, I should work on a project 10 times larger and the idea of making the demonstrations of the surfaces so it directs me to suicide :

Thank you!

 

[fabio.revit]

there are third-party solutions (www.israi.it) paid.
Honestly one of the reasons that led me to decide to leave revit is precisely the lack of attention to the needs of local users.
We're a marginal market and adesk cares about small fish.
surely someone will say: but you have all the tools to build what you need (dynamo etc), but I disagree: I want a design tool, not a programming platform.
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[Tristan]

there are third-party solutions (www.israi.it) a pagamento.

You will understand... for less than 100 euros. You've already paid off your job. imagine whether autodesk should be behind the local regulatory needs of all countries. Imagine. .

 

[fabio.revit]

You will understand... for less than 100 euros. You've already paid off your job. imagine whether autodesk should be behind the local regulatory needs of all countries. Imagine. .

if for you 100 euros are few for a bee that (securely not because of the developers) always updates with a few months delay, application of a software that does not have retrocompatibility.....
es and are "only 100 euros" with what cost first license and sub, I could turn the speech, adesk can safely buy the rights and give it to me.
adesk is not behind the local norms for economic choice, software house much smaller do it (vectorworks, nemeteschek) simply agreeing with the local resellers.
adesk, who instead aims at a market of big studies and engineering companies, instead, imho decided not to care for these (for them) quisquilie (type decentralized libraries, are the same as r2008 and other amenities)
♪

 

[Tristan]

if for you 100 euros are few for a bee

a bee can't feel... maybe you wanted to say "an app"

es and are "only 100 euros" with what cost first license and sub, I could turn the speech, adesk can safely buy the rights and give it to me.

what I did in 2010 seems to me and downloaded from a handful of users (two or maybe 3). . .

adesk is not behind the local norms for economic choice, software house much smaller do it (vectorworks, nemeteschek) simply agreeing with the local resellers.

vectorworks is not a software house. I don't know nemetschek policies so I can't say it's like this or forget. but from what I know not even archicad does the calculation of the rai

 

[fabio.revit]

a bee can't feel... maybe you wanted to say "an app"


what I did in 2010 seems to me and downloaded from a handful of users (two or maybe 3). . .


vectorworks is not a software house. I don't know nemetschek policies so I can't say it's like this or forget. but from what I know not even archicad does the calculation of the rai

api revithttp://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-api/bd-p/160I was between those two or three....

you are right, vectorworks is a nemetschek brand, which of the localization of its software seems to be a strong point.

 

[Tristan]

api revithttp://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-api/bd-p/160

I know what bees are

 

[Monte Baldo]

Hello Tristan... I confirm that allplan contemplates your calculation. Here is how:https://youtu.be/st85y9y9zrq

 

[gfrank]

...
what I did in 2010 seems to me and downloaded from a handful of users (two or maybe 3). . .
...

I downloaded it, and tried to use it, and to say it all, at the time the application in topic was just "at the minimum terms".
1) was not developed with revit, the update with the version of reference revit, came out after 2/3 months;
2) had problems to automatically "connect" the windows with its local: it had to intervene "manually";
3) did not distinguish between "aerant" and "illuminant" surface (the doors were not "recognized")
4) the calculation of the rai did not take into account the specificities of the "local" regulations (detractions)
5) not all the families of the windows were recognized in the calculation (only the default ones distributed with revit, which at the time were a "ciofeca");
6) it was not possible to create a "Table of results, to be inserted directly in the press
... and many others, for which I preferred to use the abachi for the calculation, although at the time the "superfici of the premises" and the "windows" did not dialogue directly ...