revit 2011 how much is it worth? ?

[alpearchitetto]

the malumori run on the net...but how much revit 2011 is worth

 

[Aenil]

use revit 2011 for a few months and as only initial support I used this excellent videocourse:
http://www.videocorsorevit.it/default.htmtherefore my feedback is very relative; so much to say the most I can do is this:(click to enlarge)

However, as mentioned in the other topic, I believe that this program is exceled in many respects but falls into nonsense as an adequate hardware support.
I have an i7 920 at 3.5ghz and in general the renders are still very slow, the gpu is not supported at 100% and at least 4/5 times a week I have sudden crashes.

Fortunately I still don't use it for work but for "didactic" purposes.

However, it still seems young as software and in fact it would serve a variety of optimizations and simplifications.

 

[Erikilrosso]

I've been using revit for a long time, but I haven't been able to install the latest version, because after the launch, I can't open any project, nor new, nor old demos, because I'm thrown out and revit closes. I downloaded the program not only once, removing it completely and reinstalling it from the autodesk site, but nothing to do. I've reported the problem to the mother house, but no answer.
the "service après vente" is quite poor!
Could it be an old and not sufficent graphics card problem?

 

[alpearchitetto]

could be the card but if it consoles you I can tell you that we work on t7500 ws with 12gb memory and nvidia card fx3800 to 1gb and revit not the law. it will also be a nice program but "pero dios se despertoran los que autodesk" if they do not want the competition to exceed them great!

 

[gfrank]

autodesk revit architecture a 32 bit•microsoft® windows® 7 32-bit enterprise, ultimate, business or home premium edition; microsoft® windows view® 32 bit (sp2 or later) enterprise, ultimate, business, or home premium or microsoft® windows® xp (sp2 or later) professional or home*
•processor for windows 7 or view: dual core intel® repentum® 4 or amd athlon®, 3 ghz or higher with sse2 technology
•windows xp: dual core processor intel repentum 4 or amd athlon, 1,6 ghz or higher with sse2 technology
•3 gb ram
•5 gb free disk space
•screen 1.280 x 1.024 with true color
• 24-bit color screen adapter for simple graphics, 256 mb graphics card with directx® 9 support and shader model 3 for advanced graphics
•Microsoft mouse compatible pointing device
•windows® internet explorer® 7.0 or later
•download or installation by dvd
• Internet connection for license registration
autodesk revit architecture a 64 bit•microsoft windows 7 64-bit enterprise, ultimate, professional or home premium; windows 64-bit view (sp2 or later) (recommended), including enterprise, ultimate, business or home premium or windows xp professional x64 sp2*
•processor for windows 7 or view: dual core repentum 4, amd athlon, 3 ghz or higher with sse2, or intel® xeon® quad core w3570 at 3,20 ghz, 8m l3, 6,4 gt/s turbo or equivalent amd processor (recommended)
•processor for windows xp x64: dual core intel repentum 4 or amd athlon, 1,6 ghz or higher with sse2 technology
•3 gb of ram (recommended at least 8 gb)
•5 gb free disk space
•screen 1.280 x 1.024 with true color
• 24-bit color screen adapter for simple graphics or 256 mb graphics card with directx® 9 support and shader model 3 (recommended)
•Microsoft mouse compatible pointing device
•internet explorer 7.0 or later
•download or installation by dvd
• Internet connection for license registration

 

[alpearchitetto]

:3513:
I'd like to see who works with those configurations as he turns revit.
....we recommend 5gb but if you have 8 maybe it turns a little better.
to me the giga that turn are of different nature
hi gfranco

 

[render54]

I feel like revit 2011 is a little crazy
to each gives a different problem
I had installed 2 months ago by downloading it from autodesk the version in English and I used it for the canons 30 of how it tries to duplicate works and opening them with this version and apart a problem of rendering due to a decal that tolta turned everything normally, then I uninstalled it
on the other day I received and installed my version in Italian and in the installation gave me already a problem not loading the framework 3.5 but I saw that it was already
was installed with the 2010 version that I had reinstalled a couple of months ago after changing the mb that gave problems.
The only thing is that at the start it gives me a series of warnings and then it leaves, the only thing that's wrong is the design command that doesn't show me the icons but the command takes it
Anyway, I opened some designs by sending them to make optimal and he went great exploiting my double xeon processors 100% and my 12 gb ram
so also the video card, a picture fx 1800 768 mb does not give problems so I do not see why the picture fx3800 should not digest it
at this point to those who the Italian version gives problems I would recommend to download the English version from autodesk and try to install it and see if from problems or not

ps.
I also have the collection of revit, from 7 onwards and the latter is the only one that has given me problems, for now I continue with 2010 to scan of problems that I have not yet discovered

 

[alpearchitetto]

great make I see that one step at a time solve your problems. but the question arises it would not be better if, purchased a product, this worked for benign:tongue:
I swear, I swear with the fx3800 gave me trouble, I had to set it up again because I got out the writing that the card was.... too much.....advanced:frown: or similar stuff
Hi.

 

[render54]

I have to say that the one team technician responded promptly asking me the data of the pc before evaluating what may be the problem.
apparently they care about the problems of their customers more than self-desk

 

[alpearchitetto]

but I see that the problems with 2011 continue. I was told that it is normal to make the set every time you charge a material to avoid the absolute "black", it will be but to me it seems unpractical.
I uploaded a project from 2010 to 2011 and launching the render all the materials are for "miracle" disappeared (despite the answer of frank) I gave up and therefore for now I still work with 2010.
by asking the question on other forums, little courteous and "sense", I was answered in a few words to... address myself to another site where the answers are ...more kind and with many faces. were they probably referring to this forum? I don't want to talk about it, and I'm praying for the talk with people who can respond precisely, punctually and "garbate" maybe with some extra face.
good week to all and for this time I do not add smiley faces ;o)

 

[warburg]

Well anyway reading your experiences the desire to put aside 800 euros to renew the sub passes me own.. .

 

[alpearchitetto]

you know what to say the good totò..." and here falls the donkey" !!! and yes because the lack of obolo (see sub) punish you on the next versions. what you want to make it clear to those who might have the goodness to read the forums (I hope there is) - some autodesk expert who maybe publishes books - that the problems are there and maybe (!?) should be seen and correct in some update during the race of the year.
In short, what I want to say is that we cannot always appeal to the good availability of gfrank or some other good soul to solve our problems.
or should we address some consumer associations ?
or what else?
Hello and blessed you who are in puglia (warburg): great food and good wine at least that the autodesk can not remove it!
Hello ;o)

 

[warburg]

you know what to say the good totò..." and here falls the donkey" !!! and yes because the lack of obolo (see sub) punish you on the next versions. what you want to make it clear to those who might have the goodness to read the forums (I hope there is) - some autodesk expert who maybe publishes books - that the problems are there and maybe (!?) should be seen and correct in some update during the race of the year.
In short, what I want to say is that we cannot always appeal to the good availability of gfrank or some other good soul to solve our problems.
or should we address some consumer associations ?
or what else?
Hello and blessed you who are in puglia (warburg): great food and good wine at least that the autodesk can not remove it!
Hello ;o)

Yes, indeed, fall right there the donkey...! the "ciuccio", as they say around here, one feels like a puppy to undergo this cute system. I think software is the only product on the market for which sellers can do what they seem to be, they are like a rubber wall.

 

[MirkoNEO]

I write little, I read a lot, but when I write it is for real problems to which often and willingly there is no answer, or answers like "you know not to use", "you have to understand philosophy", "it is not like autocad". .
to prevent that I constantly kiss with the bim for about 5 years... first with allplan (laid because it is quite obsolete), then with revit...
but excuse me, I have broken to hear me say that we are the last wheel of the cart, that we end users autodesk do not turn right, that our requests will be answered after the requests of very + important markets of us... as if I were the only one to fly me every time I have to put a ladder, or a structural pillar (it seems that we have to do some lunatic manipulations to see a wall cut well and forever by a structural pillar). .
revit as an idea is phenomenal, I like to die the idea that it is a single database to which you can ask everything, but at least make me the pleasure that to make a monoplane house with annexed basement is not + difficult to do a deconstructionalist museum or a glazed wall that goes to cover every branch of a tree.... I can make space wraps, but on stairs with goose steps... I can do absurd grooves, but not tilted... I don't dare to talk about barks because there's to go out crazy with walls under the roof and different walls above the roof that go to overlay and mess with the fittings... huè, walls straight and well done courtesy, stairs that can be called stairs with all the attached symbolism, otherwise write us on "not suitable for Italian works". . .

 

[warburg]

I write little, I read a lot, but when I write it is for real problems to which often and willingly there is no answer, or answers like "you know not to use", "you have to understand philosophy", "it is not like autocad". .
to prevent that I constantly kiss with the bim for about 5 years... first with allplan (laid because it is quite obsolete), then with revit...
but excuse me, I have broken to hear me say that we are the last wheel of the cart, that we end users autodesk do not turn right, that our requests will be answered after the requests of very + important markets of us... as if I were the only one to fly me every time I have to put a ladder, or a structural pillar (it seems that we have to do some lunatic manipulations to see a wall cut well and forever by a structural pillar). .
revit as an idea is phenomenal, I like to die the idea that it is a single database to which you can ask everything, but at least make me the pleasure that to make a monoplane house with annexed basement is not + difficult to do a deconstructionalist museum or a glazed wall that goes to cover every branch of a tree.... I can make space wraps, but on stairs with goose steps... I can do absurd grooves, but not tilted... I don't dare to talk about barks because there's to go out crazy with walls under the roof and different walls above the roof that go to overlay and mess with the fittings... huè, walls straight and well done courtesy, stairs that can be called stairs with all the attached symbolism, otherwise write us on "not suitable for Italian works". . .

Yes, it's just the experiences like yours that worry me! to think I was one step away from taking vectorworks:biggrin:

 

[Erikilrosso]

mother's homes are a bit the same in all sectors: once made the sale is not that the customer cares very much. Fortunately, certain retailers are sufficiently aware of the creation of a customer park, of course paid, to which they distribute expertise and information. I have always paid my annual obolo to ensure that my problems are answered quickly and with valid solutions. the cost is not very high, but sometimes widely justified by the fact of not being nailed with work.
you know the laws of murphy..........
it would be nice then, that autodesk listened to the end users, it would be even better if autodesk sided with designer in the drafting of the program, which could also vent the hundreds of useless or very little options used of the program itself.
I have no longer tried to install 2011, because I expect a new 64-bit machine, but if things are like reading, I will continue with 2010.
But according to you, is there a "big brother" who listens to us?

 

[MirkoNEO]

Yes, it's just the experiences like yours that worry me! to think I was one step away from taking vectorworks:biggrin:

Look, I also used vector... If it wasn't for his heaviness and certainly his learning with revit, I would almost recommend him... .
However, those things there I felt them not from the assistance of autodesk, that has always treated me well, but from users enough (too much) of part on other forums, with the excuse that they can do everything and if I do not find it well, I can also change, that they are aware of the limits of the program, but that to them it is okay so.... that answers of the piffer... what way to think about things from emeritus fanboys that do not serve anything except to diminish even the software.. .
I'm ready for everything, be a betaster, plan (if you know how to do it... but never say) but not for implementations of the type position of the sun... How many of you will use the position of the sun to design? or how many of you will use the space walls? It will be very probable that you count every day with the stairs, the grondes, the rains, the daggers, the sewers, fences, railings, the staging... gentlemen to you

 

[warburg]

Look, I also used vector... If it wasn't for his heaviness and certainly his learning with revit, I would almost recommend him... .
However, those things there I felt them not from the assistance of autodesk, that has always treated me well, but from users enough (too much) of part on other forums, with the excuse that they can do everything and if I do not find it well, I can also change, that they are aware of the limits of the program, but that to them it is okay so.... that answers of the piffer... what way to think about things from emeritus fanboys that do not serve anything except to diminish even the software.. .
I'm ready for everything, be a betaster, plan (if you know how to do it... but never say) but not for implementations of the type position of the sun... How many of you will use the position of the sun to design? or how many of you will use the space walls? It will be very probable that you count every day with the stairs, the grondes, the rains, the daggers, the sewers, fences, railings, the staging... gentlemen to you

will not be that the concept of bim is not suitable for the raw professional reality of everyday? that is precisely fences, cadas, tables to be printed for the municipality, not twin towers designed by a nugolo of American caddisti. . .

 

[Anchorage]

a greeting to all, being new enrolled.

for personal reasons last year I did not renew
the subscription, so no revit and autocad 2011....
Honestly for now I don't miss it and
to be completely honest, as I also see for other software,
in my opinion there are no real novelties to justify an outburst of figures
of about 800 euros every year.

 

[Aenil]

Look, I also used vector... If it wasn't for his heaviness and certainly his learning with revit, I would almost recommend him... .
However, those things there I felt them not from the assistance of autodesk, that has always treated me well, but from users enough (too much) of part on other forums, with the excuse that they can do everything and if I do not find it well, I can also change, that they are aware of the limits of the program, but that to them it is okay so.... that answers of the piffer... what way to think about things from emeritus fanboys that do not serve anything except to diminish even the software.. .
I'm ready for everything, be a betaster, plan (if you know how to do it... but never say) but not for implementations of the type position of the sun... How many of you will use the position of the sun to design? or how many of you will use the space walls? It will be very probable that you count every day with the stairs, the grondes, the rains, the daggers, the sewers, fences, railings, the staging... gentlemen to you

Odd the position of the sun personally found it very useful, in a second set the orientation as you want and see if in the summer period the building is properly shaded.

for the gronds and rains just make a family as you must and then quickly changing the path you make him do the desired "turn".

for the sewers I agree, idem for the staging.

the stairs and the fences instead seemed moolto difficult to manage but in the end working on it until you can get a good result, it would only be revised the way to interface with this function.

It is useless to hide it, revit for some things is a lightning, for others it is long and difficult to manage, even it happens to adapt to the program in the planning phase, very serious in my opinion.

I want to point out that all this said by one who has been using revit for a few months.