scale and multistore structure

[cadrev]

Good morning to you, I'm hanging with the stairs. I have two questions I hope you can answer.
the first concerns the multi-storey stairs. I remember that the versions of a few years ago allowed the creation and possible modification of a multiplane without particular problems. Today, as far as I am concerned, it has become an absurd process. That said, I can't even change the starting plan of a scale, but only eliminate levels. in the past in the property panel was a trivial operation. Does anyone know how to move or do I have to do it all over again?

the second concerns the supporting structure of the staircase. as you well know structure of the scale and finishes of the steps are 2 different things. I have always seen revit reasoning on departure and arrival, but I would like to understand whether it is possible to customize the supporting structure as in reality. ovverò, structure of the staircase that stands on the structure of the loft and not on the floor. For example, if I have a ceiling of 30 cm divided into structure 20 cm, insulation 8 cm and floor 2 cm, I would like the scale to leave less 20 with the structure and not with the finish of the step that instead I would like to leave less 2 cm.
is it science fiction or are there any methods to do that?

thanks to all
a greeting

 

[Tristan]

I remember that the versions of a few years ago allowed the creation and possible modification of a multiplane without particular problems. Today, as far as I am concerned, it has become an absurd process. That said, I can't even change the starting plan of a scale, but only eliminate levels. in the past in the property panel was a trivial operation. Does anyone know how to move or do I have to do it all over again?

if you have to change a single ramp of a multi-store scale, select it with the tab

as you well know structure of the scale and finishes of the steps are 2 different things. I have always seen revit reasoning on departure and arrival, but I would like to understand whether it is possible to customize the supporting structure as in reality. ovverò, structure of the staircase that stands on the structure of the loft and not on the floor. For example, if I have a ceiling of 30 cm divided into structure 20 cm, insulation 8 cm and floor 2 cm, I would like the scale to leave less 20 with the structure and not with the finish of the step that instead I would like to leave less 2 cm.
is it science fiction or are there any methods to do that?

or offset works or (as would be best done) you create structural levels different from architectural levels