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[Lucignolo]

I swx retailers passed them all except 2: one was eliminated and the other was absorbed. also here is dealer and reseller and even within the same group there is branch and branch.
I could say the same as someone who sells ptc products, the important thing is to learn to trust serious people and who demonstrate with facts and not giving air to the mouth.

perhaps I understood to whom it refers maxopus,
It is true that it depends on dealer and retailer but some use a technique almost by complaint.
I don't know if you ever realized that they called you those who see the x biiiiiiiip x magazines (which have nothing to do with the real x biiiiiiiip x .

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In 2005 I convinced myself (from real coxxxxne) to make a subscription to this magazine, the following year I decided not to do it anymore.
at first they seemed to resign to my decision not to join the subscription, later it was a nightmare they called almost every day also my mobile phone, was given to him by a secretary who feared by the arrogant manner of these people and especially in the way they did it gave my cell phone number.
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[cm72]

from the tests made these 15 days has emerged:

the overwhelming superiority of pro/e (modelling,assembly, table)
we need and integration with pro/mechanica which is a high fem
level (not an integrated cosuccino that can use my baker)

the level of ptc sellers and their seriousness surprised me!
the competition semba has sellers of "pentole". . .

in our future working group there were ...
1 ex pro/e - favourable pro/e (and very experienced)
1 former solid edge (but you don't want to know more about st)
1 who comes from ug and knows a little pro/e and a little swx - and was for pro/e
1 ex swx (experienced and pissed) - who declared ... everything except swx ...
So we'll go on parametric!!

 

[Matteo]

we need and integration with pro/mechanica which is a high fem
level (not an integrated cosuccino that can use my baker)

eye that the fem integrated in swx (cosmos, aka "simulation") in the "right" version is as powerful as prom (as each with specific characteristics)... is not "an integrated confection" :wink:

Says a promechanic adore.

 

[Parametric_Ozzy]

from the tests made these 15 days has emerged:

the overwhelming superiority of pro/e (modelling,assembly, table)
we need and integration with pro/mechanica which is a high fem
level (not an integrated cosuccino that can use my baker)

the level of ptc sellers and their seriousness surprised me!
the competition semba has sellers of "pentole". . .

in our future working group there were ...
1 ex pro/e - favourable pro/e (and very experienced)
1 former solid edge (but you don't want to know more about st)
1 who comes from ug and knows a little pro/e and a little swx - and was for pro/e
1 ex swx (experienced and pissed) - who declared ... everything except swx ...
So we'll go on parametric!!

Did you call the direct ptc or any retailer?

 

[cm72]

dealers!

 

[maxopus]

I swx retailers passed them all except 2: one was eliminated and the other was absorbed. also here is dealer and reseller and even within the same group there is branch and branch.
I could say the same as someone who sells ptc products, the important thing is to learn to trust serious people and who demonstrate with facts and not giving air to the mouth.

with this king, I didn't mean that all swx dealers are half socks, and all professional ptc retailers.
Surely there are good and fetents in the 2 categories.
My experience was like that, maybe it's a matter of luck.

with autodesk dealers I had 2 good experiences to write us a book of jokes but, this does not mean that they are all so.

 

[stef_design]

just a nice working group:biggrin::biggrin:

in the end... look also cathesis:smile:

 

[rero]

about one and a half ago (so when we were still out of the crisis) I had made a quote for a fem and I had been proposed solidworks complete of module fem to about 10000 euros. I think today they can offer you something better...... and the module is very interesting and simple to use. of course it also checks the maintenance and service costs as they are then those that in the long run, considering costs of equity more or less equivalent for the various packages, make the difference

 

[cm72]

just a nice working group:biggrin::biggrin:

in the end... look also cathesis:smile:

seee!!! "I give you the schei pal catia... or te mei de paea katia...:biggrin:

 

[cm72]

about one and a half ago (so when we were still out of the crisis) I had made a quote for a fem and I had been proposed solidworks complete of module fem to about 10000 euros. I think today they can offer you something better...... and the module is very interesting and simple to use. of course it also checks the maintenance and service costs as they are then those that in the long run, considering costs of equity more or less equivalent for the various packages, make the difference

no enough swx enough!!!! I hope they fail miserably...

 

[bio]

the overwhelming superiority of pro/e (modelling,assembly, table)
we need and integration with pro/mechanica which is a high fem
level (not an integrated cosuccino that can use my baker)

eye that the fem integrated in swx (cosmos, aka "simulation") in the "right" version is as powerful as prom (as each with specific characteristics)... is not "an integrated confection" :wink:

Says a promechanic adore.

starting from these answers, is it not the case to consider a fem a more flexible/powerful clutch?

Drawing a random name, abaqus, the rental package costs as a proe/promech license (obviously without the cad:d part) complete and allows to make simulations much more complex than what allows to make promeccanica or cosmos (even if you seem to go on proe). .

obviously rental there is the assistance and disadvantage that every year you pay the same amount (you do not pay the mx of course). .

It is an idea to evaluate if you want, as mentioned in the first post, to make simulations of a certain level. .

bio

 

[re_solidworks]

no enough swx enough!!!! I hope they fail miserably...

Given your answers I realized who treated swx with your company. I can assure you that swx is a good product and with swx I have removed great satisfactions, even with competitors who used proes.
I can also assure you that with cranes and presses I would be very competitive, but I do not want to use the forum as a vehicle for my advertising, so that I have never referred to my business.
You're free to think of it as you want, but believe me, you're just wrong dealer.

 

[re_solidworks]

with this king, I didn't mean that all swx dealers are half socks, and all professional ptc retailers.
Surely there are good and fetents in the 2 categories.
My experience was like that, maybe it's a matter of luck.

with autodesk dealers I had 2 good experiences to write us a book of jokes but, this does not mean that they are all so.

Don't worry, it's okay. I'm sorry that the level of swx dealers is this.
Sometimes, on some rare occasion, I did some swx demos in my studio along with my dealer (we have a great relationship and when we can help each other) and I can assure you that I never failed a hit. each demo has been sold a number of licenses. with this I do not want to say that I am the magician, only I know better than a dealer the design needs (and not the glitter of menus with ribbons).

returning to topic, proe is a great product, powerful, stable and scalable. I'm still working a little bit, but I've seen how the instrument looks.