select everything and change layers not working

[reggio]

Hello, autocad 2010 behaves strangely,
when I try to bring all the lines you look for and more on the zero level...

If they select everything, including objects on different levels, autocad does not find the differences and therefore does not allow me to bring them on zero level.
If instead I make selections to "pezzetti" finds them and makes me change. .

ps: I have already exploded everything and also “liberate” (unlocked/scanned/...) every level...
[youtube]9hhuojgf0[/youtube]Where am I wrong? and how do I solve it?

 

[Giuseppe Mauro]

Are you talking about the property? did you try with the classic command? (change or change in English)

 

[reggio]

Are you talking about the property? did you try with the classic command? (change or change in English)

I speak of level (layer), I want to select all entities and put them on the zero level, as I try to do in the video at point 1.21" (I select everything then go to the beginning/layer/layer to be able to select the layer on which the selected entities should go. . .

I always did so... I tried to change or change but I didn't understand why it's needed or how to use it. . .

 

[Giuseppe Mauro]

I always did so... I tried to change or change but I didn't understand why it's needed or how to use it. . .

What's the point? changes (as the command says) changes the properties of selected objects.
One of the properties is the layer on which the object is.

how to use: change -> select objects -> change the layer on which objects are.
I'd say you need to look at the manual, as well as drawing everything on layer 0 is suicide. .

 

[reggio]

how to use: change -> select objects -> change the layer on which objects are.

Thanks mauro, it is much less practical than I did, but it works :d

Drawing everything on layer 0 is suicide. .

We do it when we need to quickly send copies to customers. . .

 

[numero1]

change is the original command of autocad, when icons still were a dream.
However if you have to change all the design with change, give the command and the voice select answer _all, it should work and be very + quick.
in my opinion something doesn't explode, or even if it did it remained in memory, if you want to do it with your method try first to make a purge of the entire dwg.

even if you have to send copies to customers so quickly this does not justify the fact of drawing everything on 0 that is in fact a suicide as it writes gm.
I guess the receivers don't know an autocad excident otherwise they should come looking for you with the double. :
If they are good on autocad then it is a professional suicide vs. ......
hi and good work

 

[Giuseppe Mauro]

If they are good on autocad then it is a professional suicide vs. ......

or is a protectionist choice

 

[numero1]

I mean?
they give him the dwg so why then their customers are "invoked" to turn to them?
So, why don't they send him a nice pdf...... it seems + professional.
I repeat, according to me is + correct the first:
customers know nothing about cad.
Hi.

 

[Giuseppe Mauro]

Well, assuming that I don't think either of the two actors understand us a beautiful autocad fava (otherwise you would know at least how the change works) so we fall into your assumption, but delivering a dwg all on layer 0 and completely exploded is a protectionist way of complying with a request like "you have to give me the job in dwg format", very frequent request.

Then, I repeat, in the specific case, I think the speech is framed as you have predicted.

 

[numero1]

Mah, it may be, but as seen in that film, it seems that reggio understands us at least a bit, and then with 666 messages (we touch) it is not a novel.
Hi.

 

[Giuseppe Mauro]

If you look Good the video you notice how reggio has no idea how autocad behaves.
in fact he looks at the consistency of the layer from the ribbon (which I hate but let it go).
even without ribbon but with the only pop down of the layers, autocad has this behavior. when selecting an object (one only), then the pop (or ribbon) automatically positions on the object layer, to return to the current once the selection is removed. basically gives you an info on the layer of the selected object.
if you select more objects, if the layers agree show you the layer, if they are on different layers show nothing (what among many should display? )
but that doesn't mean that if you change layers with the select objects, they don't move layers. only that he does not notice, since all layers are lit and obviously no object is color dalayer, but they are all with a set color (so the layer change no color)

watch the video well and take the status changes of the ribbon and/or the command line.
I believe that reggio has solidwork familiarity (it opened it alongside autocad) and that autocad uses it just as output outwards, but you don't work there a bit.
We'll see what he's gonna say.

 

[numero1]

if it is as you say, that is:only he doesn't noticeThen you're right, but I refuse to believe something like this:biggrin:
It is intuitive and simple to understand that it has changed the layer, the color change then has nothing to do with it.
Reggio just wanted to change layers, it seems he didn't care about the color.
We wait for a sign as you say....
Hi.

 

[reggio]

a mio parere non ti esplode qualcosa

ps: I have already exploded everything and also “liberate” (unlocked/scanned/...) every level...

purge of the entire dwg

I usually do
1)select everything
2)exploding
3)Change Layer
4)purge t t
and I repeat from point 1... in that case it did not serve. . .

Professional suicide. . .

...maybe I understood the origin of misunderstanding: we are not technical study, to my client sending the dis with the encumbrance of the ns machine for verification of spaces and fixes, you should not be able to "copy" or switch to the competition ns "know-how"... we could delete all the inside and leave only the profile but it would take more time... everything on zero is quick, lets you better guess the machine but does not allow copying (if not with huge efforts. . )

..with 666 messages (we touch) is certainly not a newbie.

... but I might have written 666 caz

We'll see what he's gonna say.

[youtube]T9dqtfs00[/youtube]

 

[Giuseppe Mauro]

the procedure is more than correct.
When you selected the 3 items, if you noticed, the pop that pointed to you on which layer they were put obscured. That's because he should have seen 3 layers at the same time and he can't.

However, to pate the change, you can turn on the property panel (ctrl+1), select the items you want and change everything you want.

p.s. albeit effective, the insertion of video sti is a many pedante. . .

 

[reggio]

the procedure is more than correct.

...

When you selected the 3 items, if you noticed, the pop that pointed to you on which layer they were put obscured. That's because he should have seen 3 layers at the same time and he can't.

...maybe we're coming... then the things you write are what I was trying to explain from the beginning, in fact if you look at the 1st video you see that:
at 1.09" touch only objects on liv.0 and the pop says "0" = correct
at 1.16" touch only objects on liv.arredi and the pop says "arredi" = correct
at 1.23" touch everything and the pop says "0" = wrongthe only answer I wanted to receive from the beginning was because pop did not obscure remaining on "0" (which prevented me from selecting "0" to bring everything on "0" as then I showed it was possible to do in the next video)? still missing answer. . .

p.s. albeit effective, the insertion of video sti is a many pedante. . .

pedante:
1 flaunting with presumption your own knowledge, often inconsistent.
2 with a value which is mostly free, which places excessive scruple in the observance of rules, or which deals with minusia with zeal devoid of wilful intelligence, meticulous: employed p.; in particular, that respects grammar rules with excessive rigor.

you need to look at the manual

Drawing everything on layer 0 is suicide. .

a beautiful fairy of autocad

I have no idea how he behaves autocad.

You said I'm a pedant? :wink:

 

[Giuseppe Mauro]

You're right, I felt bad, I used an incorrect term.

in a forum you communicate with posts, which are written.
I open the post and read what you want to explain. redirect this description of the problem to a video, becomes boring, laborious, Moroccan. Also because (I don't know if you noticed) when you open the video from the forum, it remains confined in its beautiful microscopic window and therefore you don't see a patch.
Then who wants to understand what you wrote, has to open it directly on youtube, put it on full screen and sip 2-3 minutes of footage to understand what you might understand in 10 seconds net reading.

Is this explanation better?
So, to understand, the correct term is turkey joined to contortedthe twist because you expect a forum to write. If to read you I have to look at you writing (resume of the office), I'd say it's twisted.
I ask you vein for the unused pedant.

Let's move on. The way you use to change layers to objects is a "non-standard" way. That's an addition. the native command changes, the quick option is to use the property panel (ctrl+1) the one used by you normally works, but it is not reported as a change mode anywhere.
It's very true that pop didn't obscure that time (which he did in the other video), but it's also true that you didn't even try to make one more click. Once you have selected the incriminated items, you had 1 click all on another layer and then 1 click again to bring them back to 0.

for the rest of my quotes, I'm sorry but I don't fit the term "pedal".
Perhaps "hard", "direct", "without hair on the tongue" but not pedante:smile:

On the other hand, as you might have noticed, I interpreted more than correct both the modalities of your use of autocad (protectionism), and your level of knowledge of the program.
in the light of this, rather than roasting on why that time autocad had that behavior, made direct on more 'conscious and efficient paths from those who the program knows it in a deep way, even if this should highlight that so far you have used a working procedure, but not effective.
Don't you think?

 

[numero1]

I usually do
1)select everything
2)exploding
You better blow it all up until you're sure there are no blocks, basically go ahead with the command until it tells you zero.
This way when you purge you're sure you erase everything

3)cambia layer
4)purge t t
when you purge, you also pounce " nested blocks" and so you're sure that it will also make you out the block inside another blockand I repeat from point 1... in that case it did not serve. . .

...maybe I understood the origin of misunderstanding: we are not technical study, to my client sending the dis with the encumbrance of the ns machine for verification of spaces and fixes, you should not be able to "copy" or switch to the competition ns "know-how"... we could delete all the inside and leave only the profile but it would take more time... everything on zero is quick, lets you better guess the machine but does not allow copying (if not with huge efforts. . )
... but I might have written 666 caz

Mah, happy you...... :smile:
you design the "overall dimensions", the out all so much to understand, and go well, but then drawings in dwg, then from the 3/4 quotas of max, and do the pdf.
But so I have to quote, you answer me, yes, but to put 3/4 dimensions max how long it takes you?
Very little.
to make 4/5 layers more or less the same, or do 1 just call profile, and delete everything else.
Moreover if your client has a dwg has something vector, he will be able to trace back to your know-how, maybe banging but if he wants it.
send him a pdf and his defeat must be double, it is not + convenient for him.
By the way, if you send him a pdf with the latest acrobat versions, I think he can take the measurements himself (it was going to memory).
or if you want this, i.e. that your client can take the measurements, create a dxf and send him that.
he can only see it with the autocad viewer (and measure) but enough.
I think you have more than one chance.
Hi.