cacciatorino
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I'm sorry why mirror pieces would be a wrong function? I use them commonly and find them very useful.
Maybe you didn't understand what we were talking about otherwise I don't see the reason to deny it.
Maybe you didn't understand what we were talking about otherwise I don't see the reason to deny it.
lakers
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the fact of having 2 symmetrical objects does not discuss it, but that then they have such strong ties that to the modification of one also the other is updated, that is wrong, if they are symmetric are different and have two separate codes. not to confuse mounted groups symmetrically with individual symmetrical parts. modeling in case you do the symmetry of a group is able to automatically propose the list of objects that are identical (symmetrical assembly) from different (symmetrical) ones creating copies and shares in autometic with an excellent degree of precision! !
marcof
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If they're symmetrical... are symmetrical and if the change of one does not symmetrically pripercuote on the other then the two pieces are no longer symmetrical.
oh, "symmetry" has an objective meaning, not subjective
I don't understand, if the objects are symmetric, it sucks you to model only one (objects, not groups...) and have the symmetric already done, which keeps updated all the changes of the piece father and with separate code?
Besides, if needed, in the child part you can then add additional work.
Hi.
cacciatorino
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I have the suspicion that osd does not support any kind of association between different parts, so who has no experience of other cad maybe sees in that procedure some kind of horror vacui.
lakers
Guest
boys but the codes management rules I didn't invent them... if two objects have different code they have to be different.
and then what the hell of a system is one that if I change the original then it also changes the symmetric, but if I change the symmetric then I do not change the original ? and that I spend the day seeing if and when the system does what I have in mind? but please ... rather in modeling if I just see it as a change of both, I do it at the same time to both, in one shot and with only one command, easier than so ... anyway it is schools of thought, and if you remain rigid on your own positions you will never change!
and then what the hell of a system is one that if I change the original then it also changes the symmetric, but if I change the symmetric then I do not change the original ? and that I spend the day seeing if and when the system does what I have in mind? but please ... rather in modeling if I just see it as a change of both, I do it at the same time to both, in one shot and with only one command, easier than so ... anyway it is schools of thought, and if you remain rigid on your own positions you will never change!
marcof
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Why, from your side two symmetric objects are by chance equal
?the symmetric is "son" of the original qundi must change to the change of the father and not vice versa. However, you have the possibility to change the symmetrical by adding additional geometry that must be on a body that until then was perfectly symmetrical. to me happen dozens of cases of components that must be symmetrical up to a certain point of the story then one on one of the two must be added other details. and mind that I always speak of single parts.
Trust me, it's a system that works just as you must that you've never tried it, otherwise you wouldn't write what follows.. .
is not a difficult concept eh: b is symmetric of a. mods a and b automatically updates. point
I don't know if he's forced to spend his days controlling what your cad is doing; I don't know: if I establish that a part is symmetrical to another one he obeys, always, and shut up:
easier than this is to make it on one component and find it made on its symmetrical. :smile:
I ask you a question: how do you create a b component that is the symmetric of a?
If the a component is discreetly complex when you change it, maybe heavily, how do you change it also b?
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Er Presidente
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In osd we're democratic, when you're out of shared parts, they're all twins and you can change what you want and all "suit".Why, from your side two symmetric objects are by chance equal
the symmetric is "son" of the original qundi must change to the change of the father and not vice versa. However, you have the possibility to change the symmetrical by adding additional geometry that must be on a body that until then was perfectly symmetrical. to me happen dozens of cases of components that must be symmetrical up to a certain point of the story then one on one of the two must be added other details. and mind that I always speak of single parts.
Trust me, it's a system that works just as you must that you've never tried it, otherwise you wouldn't write what follows.. .
is not a difficult concept eh: b is symmetric of a. mods a and b automatically updates. point
I don't know if he's forced to spend his days controlling what your cad is doing; I don't know: if I establish that a part is symmetrical to another one he obeys, always, and shut up:
easier than this is to make it on one component and find it made on its symmetrical. :smile:
I ask you a question: how do you create a b component that is the symmetric of a?
If the a component is discreetly complex when you change it, maybe heavily, how do you change it also b?
Hi.
to update the "symmetry", which is sister, but not twin there is a trick, but I will never say it under torture!
:smile:
marcof
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will be a pongo or dash type thing stuck on the monitor to change the geometry... :smile: or take a screenshot and with photosciop mirror the central part of the screen that contains the :biggrin model:
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Er Presidente
Guest
easier!
p.s.: We look at the monitor from a mirror!
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p.p.s.: The way is, really.
Matteo
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I am very curious (I have a make-up in mind, too, but my solution is a little 'sporty')
According to me (I repeat it for the umpteenth time) the two technologies are complementary and would not make sense for an explicit "follow" the field of application and the strengths of a parametric feature based (and vice versa).
cacciatorino
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actually seems that even if-st suffers from this trouble.....I am very curious (I have a make-up in mind, too, but my solution is a little 'sporty')
According to me (I repeat it for the umpteenth time) the two technologies are complementary and would not make sense for an explicit "follow" the field of application and the strengths of a parametric feature based (and vice versa).
Shaba
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cacciatorino
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would be those that are called occurrences or occurrences in other systems.
Kaji
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I to maintain the symmetry between two parts initially symmetries of which one can be modified would use the parametrics module with symmetry relationships, although it works on a 3d element at a time, and therefore forces me to choose all pairs of symmetric faces.center in qualche mode questa macro?
That macro, given my bad knowledge of English, doesn't happen at all, would you explain it in a few words?
thanks for the availability.
Shaba
Guest
allows to change one part with another
so if it has been placed in multiple points all shared are updated.
cmq I've never tried it, the few times I've done my hand surgery.
so if it has been placed in multiple points all shared are updated.
cmq I've never tried it, the few times I've done my hand surgery.
CESARE66
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Good day to all.
compliments for the forum!
I introduce myself: work in a technical office where we have designed up to now in 2d with drafting . we are moving the first steps in 3d design with osd . one of the biggest problems that we are experiencing is precisely the speech of the right and left pieces .
in the company we build, in 99% of the cases, right and left machinery, therefore the pieces that mirror them from the right machine to the left are not "equal" become right and left between them. In 2d we have always used the archaic system of only one code in quantity n destri and n sinistri .
are looking for a solution for osd in which the two symmetric models (right and left) while having two different ids retain their symmetry at the time when I change one of the two models.
thank you in advance for anyone who can help me.
Kaji
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the most correct solution that comes to mind is to use the module "parametrics" and set symmetry relations between the various parts, to do this of course you must have the two symmetrical parts within a single group, if in fact you have not created a fictitious group, but I have never had the daily urgency to automatically update the symmetric parts, so the idea I have never developed from my hand.
the module "parametrics" however is for a fee if you do not have the solution "maiala" is to disassemble your symmetric parts in shared subparts so that the two original symmetrical parts differ only for the position of the subparts; But obviously when you go to make the 2d you will appear visible lines that do not actually exist.
In short, with some concrete example I can develop the possibilities but I can't tell you anything because in fact I don't have the continuous need to manage symmetrical parts, when I use the command "symmetric copy" with the option you recognize parts shared to the maximum approximation (0.1) and then I'll take the tables.
the module "parametrics" however is for a fee if you do not have the solution "maiala" is to disassemble your symmetric parts in shared subparts so that the two original symmetrical parts differ only for the position of the subparts; But obviously when you go to make the 2d you will appear visible lines that do not actually exist.
In short, with some concrete example I can develop the possibilities but I can't tell you anything because in fact I don't have the continuous need to manage symmetrical parts, when I use the command "symmetric copy" with the option you recognize parts shared to the maximum approximation (0.1) and then I'll take the tables.
cacciatorino
Guest
Anyway, this thing that I'm changing half a right car, and then the half-left I'm gonna have to redecorate my head just can't see! :frown:
Mr. President, please make a phone call. :biggrin:
Mr. President, please make a phone call. :biggrin:
maxopus
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Since he has become a ptc has lost all the superpowers, he has to pass by me ... :biggrin:
Er Presidente
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What do I know? ! !
Do you realize I'm one who "shares" anything with anyone else?
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