sheet metal processing for tank

[themole]

hi guys, in the annex I created a half lid of a tank it is possible to remove the vertical wall and the semicircle above transform everything into sheet metal and make it develop?
Thank you in advance.

 

[SolidUser]

in solidworks only parts with exactly cylindrical or conical analytical faces can be stretched out.
in some cases the 'folding with loft' function may exceed this limitation, but it is not your case.

 

[themole]

alternative software that can do what I ask exists? )

 

[maxopus]

in pro/e it is possible to develop double curvature surfaces... but if it is very complex pieces it is better to use specific applications for the development of imbuted sheets.
Try posting the step, I'll take a look and let you know.

 

[themole]

here are the step:finger file:

 

[themole]

eccoti il file step

 

[maxopus]

I confirm, pro/e develops it (cutting the flat wall back), and I think swx does it (you know from version 2009).

 

[RS4]

Bye-bye

I tried with the v5 and I developed it quietly ..:finger:


also I as maxopus had to delete the back flat wall


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[RS4]

ti allego step of development in sheet metal plane in v5

definitely does it also solidworks try to cuff a little


greetings

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[Mike1967]

hi guys, in the annex I created a half lid of a tank it is possible to remove the vertical wall and the semicircle above transform everything into sheet metal and make it develop?
Thank you in advance.

if the real size is your model.. You can do it with the lathe.
However, there are standard bombed plugs, go to them
a cork like that in a single piece is not just stuff, it takes us
appropriate moulds and presses.http://www.ramainox.it/p/266/inox-i...raccorderia-inox-a-saldare/fondo-bombato.html

 

[SolidUser]

I think swx does it too (you know from version 2009).

you can create flanges on curved profiles, but the flanges are cone logs.
these sw manages to develop, but the final part of the piece is an arc on conical part and sw fails.
Is the pro/e sheet module integrated into the basic licence ?
you say it develops without back, but you can't tear the edges or erase the wall and create a flange, clearly in pro/e, since sw can't?

 

[marcof]

you can create flanges on curved profiles, but the flanges are cone logs.
these sw manages to develop, but the final part of the piece is an arc on conical part and sw fails.
Is the pro/e sheet module integrated into the basic licence ?
you say it develops without back, but you can't tear the edges or erase the wall and create a flange, clearly in pro/e, since sw can't?

I would like to point out that the processing of sheet metal is not my job, so I could write cows, but I wonder if the development of that paper is then correct. if the software manages to develop funnels I do not understand why it is necessary to remove from the model the back that in the real sheet instead there is and is formed during the funnel.
is it not that it makes a brutal calculation of the development of the chord without taking into account the parameters of deformation of the imbuted plates and for this it needs that there is not the back part?
Perhaps the same development calculated by a specific software for iumbutiture is different, that is, and correct. . .

 

[SolidUser]

I would like to point out that the processing of sheet metal is not my job, so I could write cows, but I wonder if the development of that paper is then correct. if the software manages to develop funnels I do not understand why it is necessary to remove from the model the back that in the real sheet instead there is and is formed during the funnel.
is it not that it makes a brutal calculation of the development of the chord without taking into account the parameters of deformation of the imbuted plates and for this it needs that there is not the back part?
Perhaps the same development calculated by a specific software for iumbutiture is different, that is, and correct. . .

Sorry, but why did you mention me?

 

[flaviobrio88]

I would like to point out that the processing of sheet metal is not my job, so I could write cows, but I wonder if the development of that paper is then correct. if the software manages to develop funnels I do not understand why it is necessary to remove from the model the back that in the real sheet instead there is and is formed during the funnel.
is it not that it makes a brutal calculation of the development of the chord without taking into account the parameters of deformation of the imbuted plates and for this it needs that there is not the back part?
Perhaps the same development calculated by a specific software for iumbutiture is different, that is, and correct. . .

correct ... he needs a fem calculation and not a geometric development

 

[Oldwarper]

making such a sheet with the vertical paerte behind is absurd. The mold becomes unnecessarily complicated, the sheet metal runs away from all sides, it straws in the area of the edge that will never come as a drawing, I mean, it just doesn't. or better, it could be done, but with an attack of costs difficult to justify than a funnel to the lathe (very cheap also for large series), cutting of the two parts (maybe with a correct design you can use the two parts, previewing the thickness of the cut) and welding of the closing part (inside or maybe outside to be able to exploit the two semi-covers).

a disimbutitore, like logopress, always and anyway an approximate development, rarely applicable immediately to the cut. But this type of funnel (complete) is developed with the boxing module, which is much more reliable, even if I used it very rarely.

then consider that a development obtained for a press is different from that necessary for the lathe funnel. In this case you should give the piece (full) to those who have the machines and will calculate their development according to the machines they have.

 

[marcof]

Sorry, but why did you mention me?

because you were the untimate intervened assuming that it was a problem of the swx plate module, while to me it seems that the process of calculation of the spreadsheet of a process of funnel requires calculations other than those for bending. I therefore assumed that the result of that development done in pro-e and catia in the sheet metal module was wrong.

if you asked me why I quoted you having responded below the answer is that, by attending usenet for 15 years I am used to quota and generally the interface of these forums I find it obscene, even in hybrid or listed mode: (I let you imagine what I think of facebook... )
not listing you run the risk of entering your answer after that of another user so you no longer understand who you answer (and in that case before completing my answer I did other and many minutes have passed from "responds" to "send". ..
I might have done a cut and slightly shorten the quoting, this yes.

I don't know if I answered your question. .

 

[maxopus]

you can create flanges on curved profiles, but the flanges are cone logs.
these sw manages to develop, but the final part of the piece is an arc on conical part and sw fails.
Is the pro/e sheet module integrated into the basic licence ?
you say it develops without back, but you can't tear the edges or erase the wall and create a flange, clearly in pro/e, since sw can't?

Hello solid, I answer:
1) Yes, it is integrated into the basic module
2) you could do as you say (geometrically pro/e does), but it would not make sense, as it would not be practically feasible.
the part we say conical you should get from turning in the slab, then you should cut in two and finally you should weld the flat part

because you were the untimate intervened assuming that it was a problem of the swx plate module, while to me it seems that the process of calculation of the spreadsheet of a process of funnel requires calculations other than those for bending. I therefore assumed that the result of that development done in pro-e and catia in the sheet metal module was wrong.

dear marco, as it was rightly observed, in that case we do not talk about development from funnel, the sheet metal module of pro/e allows to make the calculation standard of straight or curved folds but not of development for imbuted sheets (the programs that do this are highly specialized and cost a proposition, I know one that costs 50,000 euros per year of rental ... do not sell it).
curved folds, as they are usually made for edge or for turning in slab, are calculated with the same algorithm of straight folds.

 

[themole]

Egregi gentlemen, mine was just an example thrown them with random measures.
for my incompetence I have not been able to remove the vertical wall and the semicircle above, as the reality of the reservoir is yes that profile but with an external radius from 2 meters for 360 degrees. the smaller hole that would form above (diameter 80 cm) is however disassato non coaxial and moved to the left of trunk 30 cm regarding the diameter of 4 meters. (They are stainless steel tanks for high food 7 mt).
question: with solidworks 2011 can you create everything and develop it or not? Can you make a step?
Hello, everyone.

 

[maxopus]

Egregi gentlemen, mine was just an example thrown them with random measures.
for my incompetence I have not been able to remove the vertical wall and the semicircle above, as the reality of the reservoir is yes that profile but with an external radius from 2 meters for 360 degrees. the smaller hole that would form above (diameter 80 cm) is however disassato non coaxial and moved to the left of trunk 30 cm regarding the diameter of 4 meters. (They are stainless steel tanks for high food 7 mt).
question: with solidworks 2011 can you create everything and develop it or not? Can you make a step?
Hello, everyone.

You have... Of course you can do but it is made in several pieces, and therefore it is all another story than what you requested.

 

[RS4]

Egregi gentlemen, mine was just an example thrown them with random measures.
for my incompetence I have not been able to remove the vertical wall and the semicircle above, as the reality of the reservoir is yes that profile but with an external radius from 2 meters for 360 degrees. the smaller hole that would form above (diameter 80 cm) is however disassato non coaxial and moved to the left of trunk 30 cm regarding the diameter of 4 meters. (They are stainless steel tanks for high food 7 mt).
question: with solidworks 2011 can you create everything and develop it or not? Can you make a step?
Hello, everyone.

hello you could have said right away what you were interested in as developed geometry of funnel type

Let's see what I can do and put the step:tongue:

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