software advice

[ale47p]

Hello everyone,
I have to start looking around for a software to buy that allows me to do the same things I have done in these years with copycad and powershape (if you also had some artcam features better...but I do not sincerely hope. . )

I don't care about mechanical simulations, assembly and things so, what I care about is having an open surface modeler that somehow manages even stl
renderings, solids, milling etc. for now are not necessary
Instead, I can import/export different data formats (in reality I have always been enough iges/step/stl)

I'm against piracy and I'm an open source supporter, but I don't have a problem paying what he does for me.
If there's something open source (and maybe you're running under linux... why not...) I'd like to know!

I would avoid software with subscription licenses or cloud based or all those things that go fashionable today that (I will already be old) I do not like. but this is a point on which I can yield.

Since I will not discard anything from taxes, the initial cost for me is important, also taking into account that once bought, if I am not well, I am screwed.
So, no trial version, no software.

I know that rhino could do to my case and I have no idea about toptron over the years what it has become.
from what I understood solidedge/solidworks/catia do not for me.
I heard about tebis and nx well, but I doubt they're in my budget. I'll contact them in person.

I would like to advise you on what to start exploring, they are all eyes and ears!

a greeting
alessandro

 

[falonef]

Hi.
What are the reasons why you would discard a priori some cad while you would consider levies that I think are probably on the same level?

in the software indicated by you known a mix between cad and cam.
How come?

 

[meccanicamg]

According to me, since it is completely open source there is freecad to try, why not, even in the developer version just to have the last cry of the product.
you have the modules that are called workbenches and resemble other mixed cad between catia and solidedge.

 

[Sbeitols]

according to me catia.. the reverse engineering module works very well (costicchia a bit)
I could give you a lot of info in regurado. .

 

[LaboratorioDieci]

if the price is important probably rhino is what it does for you. from your experience with delcam I would say that a parametric solid modeler would force you to review your way of working, even if I have to say that it may not be bad. in such case solidworks can be an option. you say you are not interested in an assembly environment, but you must know that it can be useful to organize your works, as the organization for levels present in old-style modelers is not available in all cad.
toptron is now a solid-parametric modeler, but unless you need a cam, I think that on that front there are products more suitable for you.
However interesting discussion. . .

 

[ale47p]

Hi.
What are the reasons why you would discard a priori some cad while you would consider levies that I think are probably on the same level?

in the software indicated by you known a mix between cad and cam.
How come?

hi, solidedge/solidworks/catia to hear from former colleagues who went to do anything else, they say they are unsuitable or too complex to do what we did when we worked together.
We made shoe moulds, everything, from reverse to milling.

in the software I indicated... well... I think that all I have indicated have a part of cad, the part of cam I don't care... I have appointed them only because I know to hear only those.
Unfortunately, my real experience of over 15 years is closely linked to the software I have indicated in the profile.

the activity that I will begin to do probably at the end of the year or at the beginning of the next will be (at least hope) to create models of soles, musical instruments, prostheses, things so.

If I have to meet other worlds on the street I will try, but, so much to make an example, I will not propose to design dies for televisions or things like that. I will be more oriented on modeling than on engineering.

the other software that "scarterei" are probably linked to the initial cost, let's say that only for the reverse+cad software at first I would not exceed a few thousand euros, for this I have appointed rhino, which I know is part of the budget.

According to me, since it is completely open source there is freecad to try, why not, even in the developer version just to have the last cry of the product.
you have the modules that are called workbenches and resemble other mixed cad between catia and solidedge.

Thank you, very kind, I will definitely take a look!

according to me catia.. the reverse engineering module works very well (costicchia a bit)
I could give you a lot of info in regurado. .

as already written above, I think I'm out of budget
an email costs me little to send
Thanks for the opinion!

if the price is important probably rhino is what it does for you. from your experience with delcam I would say that a parametric solid modeler would force you to review your way of working, even if I have to say that it may not be bad. in such case solidworks can be an option. you say you are not interested in an assembly environment, but you must know that it can be useful to organize your works, as the organization for levels present in old-style modelers is not available in all cad.
toptron is now a solid-parametric modeler, but unless you need a cam, I think that on that front there are products more suitable for you.
However interesting discussion. . .

thanks to you of your opinion

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Let's say that I'm interested in discovering even systems that I don't know exactly exist!

 

[Sbeitols]

hi, solidedge/solidworks/catia to hear from former colleagues who went to do anything else, they say they are unsuitable or too complex to do what we did when we worked together.
We made shoe moulds, everything, from reverse to milling.

in the software I indicated... well... I think that all I have indicated have a part of cad, the part of cam I don't care... I have appointed them only because I know to hear only those.
Unfortunately, my real experience of over 15 years is closely linked to the software I have indicated in the profile.

the activity that I will begin to do probably at the end of the year or at the beginning of the next will be (at least hope) to create models of soles, musical instruments, prostheses, things so.

If I have to meet other worlds on the street I will try, but, so much to make an example, I will not propose to design dies for televisions or things like that. I will be more oriented on modeling than on engineering.

the other software that "scarterei" are probably linked to the initial cost, let's say that only for the reverse+cad software at first I would not exceed a few thousand euros, for this I have appointed rhino, which I know is part of the budget.



Thank you, very kind, I will definitely take a look!



as already written above, I think I'm out of budget
an email costs me little to send
Thanks for the opinion!



thanks to you of your opinion



Let's say that I'm interested in discovering even systems that I don't know exactly exist!

Catia and solidworks you take them to year rental I think about the price you want but at least you find yourself in hand a nice software! rhyno on many fields has big big big gaps.
available for any information about sw and catia (work in this field)

 

[Paolo cattaneo]

for modeling rhino surfaces is a great product at a good price.
If you need a cad instead, let me know what I'm saying.

 

[ale47p]

Catia and solidworks you take them to year rental I think about the price you want but at least you find yourself in hand a nice software! rhyno on many fields has big big big gaps.
available for any information about sw and catia (work in this field)

Okay, thanks for the advice I'll send a couple of emails

for modeling rhino surfaces is a great product at a good price.
If you need a cad instead, let me know what I'm saying.

boh I don't know what you mean... if you don't want to write in public send me a private message

 

[LaboratorioDieci]

Allow me to give you a suggestion that you didn't ask: If you think you're taking a game iva, first of all you find a good accountant.

do not think that the forfait regime is the best possible thing, since as you said you can't bring the software to amortization... Have you ever heard of super or hypermortization?

if you continue with autodesk, keep in mind that you would be productive immediately and the rental would not cost as the license. I'd think about you.

These things tell you a freelancer who draws molds for soles with toptron, rhino, solidworks and cut with solidcam.

 

[ale47p]

Allow me to give you a suggestion that you didn't ask: If you think you're taking a game iva, first of all you find a good accountant.

do not think that the forfait regime is the best possible thing, since as you said you can't bring the software to amortization... Have you ever heard of super or hypermortization?

if you continue with autodesk, keep in mind that you would be productive immediately and the rental would not cost as the license. I'd think about you.

These things tell you a freelancer who draws molds for soles with toptron, rhino, solidworks and cut with solidcam.

You obviously have your turn and you have white numbers on black.
I am still evaluating

 

[LaboratorioDieci]

You obviously have your turn and you have white numbers on black.
I am still evaluating

I personally call myself a professional precarious, since certainties are never there.
This is about technique. You must keep in mind that solutions you do not know, even if in monetary terms they seem convenient, can be extremely costly in terms of non-productivity.
and do not underestimate the importance of a good accounting consultant, that bureaucracy is a bad beast!

 

[+forte]

rhino doesn't reverse, doesn't allow mesh to cad
work with surfaces and reverse? why not think Italian from bologna thinkdesign http://www.dptcorporate.com/it/

 

[LaboratorioDieci]

rhino doesn't reverse, doesn't allow mesh to cad
work with surfaces and reverse? why not think Italian from bologna thinkdesign http://www.dptcorporate.com/it/

In fact, in case of important need of reverse, rhino is not the gliusto tool. but if it is enough to get sections to build over some surface, then it works excellently.

Do you know what price order is for thinkdesign? 2, 5, 10, 20k€?

 

[+forte]

rhino doesn't reverse, it's not like it's a bit
many users bring mesh to rhino waiting for you to magically turn into a unique surface
The magic button only has a chain
I don't sell programs ,thinkdesign should be about the same price as inv swx if

 

[LaboratorioDieci]

many users bring mesh to rhino waiting for you to magically turn into a unique surface

If that's why, it's been since I started working on cads that I hear: "So does the computer!"

The magic button only has a chain

Honestly, I hope no one has the magic button, because otherwise we're screwed!

I don't sell programs ,thinkdesign should be about the same price as inv swx if

I actually noticed that thinkdesign does not appear among the software on your profile, but since you proposed it I thought you had more info.
About your profile, can you express yourself on geomagic?

 

[ale47p]

thinkdesign I saw him at school...in 2000 :roflmao: no comment!

cmq I'll take a look, thank you

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reverse to sections and curves traced on terrible mesh was my bread for years o_o

to the magic button that recognizes a voluntary defect from an involuntary I will believe when I see (live, not on youtube... )

I personally call myself a professional precarious, since certainties are never there.
This is about technique. You must keep in mind that solutions you do not know, even if in monetary terms they seem convenient, can be extremely costly in terms of non-productivity.
and do not underestimate the importance of a good accounting consultant, that bureaucracy is a bad beast!

I chose this accountant because recommended by two friends who have been working for years.
Besides, my mother has been working in accounting for over thirty years, and she also told me that she is a serious and precise one.
here in the area there are several, and apart from two/three to avoid as the plague, others are valid professionals.
then, for love, we are all good until we miss nothing

There are other things in my private life that make me lean for this solution, which seemed the easiest and most advantageous for me. confirmed by the accountant who knows some details in more than you.

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Thanks again to all opinions, we always accept other solutions

 

[+forte]

If that's why, it's been since I started working on cads that I hear: "So does the computer!"
Honestly, I hope no one has the magic button, because otherwise we're screwed!
I actually noticed that thinkdesign does not appear among the software on your profile, but since you proposed it I thought you had more info.
About your profile, can you express yourself on geomagic?

for rhino, I was referring to the continuous question that recompare sett/mens. on many Italian and foreign forums, from new rhino users, on the capabilities of rhino in reverse without plugin, I don't know who put around is metropolitan legend about the ease of reverse with rhino
I used it a long time ago on a scanned human leg, a click et voilà
on geomagic, golden times have ended, no longer worth
I also put on the profile td

thinkdesign I saw him at school...in 2000 :roflmao: no comment!
cmq I'll take a look, thank you
reverse to sections and curves traced on terrible mesh was my bread for years o_o
to the magic button that recognizes a voluntary defect from an involuntary I will believe when I see (live, not on youtube... )
Thanks again to all opinions, we always accept other solutions

from 2000 to 2019 have passed years
for the magic button read above
other solutions are not there, except from the Russians