spaceclaim, the point of the situation (2017)

[Matteo]

I was spaceclaim retailer until 2011, then I gave up the resale and software for "strategic" and non-technical reasons, because of the cad tool I was fully satisfied (in fact periodically I feel very much the lack).

I have evaluated and tried several alternatives in recent years, but no one has completely satisfied me. I would therefore like to assess the situation with current users or retailers.

In particular, I was wondering:

1) What are the main improvements from 2011 to today?
2) sc still leans on directx?
3) exists a "basic" version (the old style) for those who only need a tool to manipulate steps/iges/stl (no sheet, no "bridges" for ansys or keyshot or other plugins, no drawing)? would be useful for those who do not want to spend too much having in the house 3 other cad/fem licenses ... without counting occasional license rentals.
4) Does stand-alone exist or only in ansys packages (which I do not care, having bet on openfoam)?
5) Are licenses transferable or connected to one machine, or is there a possibility of a "home" license as at first?
6) the cost of perpetual license + mnt first year is always aligned to 60-65% of a solidworks license (with subsequent maintenance around 30% of the initial cost)?
7) Are bees well documented? I am evaluating a plugin to export to openfoam.

 

[Andrea - Overcam]

Hello, matteo,
I'm glad you're interested in spaceclaim.

I'm trying to answer you for my knowledge.

1)This is complicated... there are many small improvements, but I do not remember exactly what great improvements happened after 2011. but I still try to write a "history" of the main improvements.

- addition of the sheet module dedicated only to the purpose (sheet environment with constraints on the offset and dedicated tools)
-keyshot base is given free of charge and have made a good integration between the two software
- addition of reverse engineering (stl scans) and a module (optional) for the preparation of objects to be printed (stl print)
- possibility to create simple scripts even in "registration"

2) I think it is among the requirements "requires full directx® 9c"
3) no, there is no limited version
4) you stand alone, without anything additional (do not buy ansys, there is only a better interaction between the two)
5) one-time transferable, but there is the home license to use on a station not in the same company network (home, laptop, etc.)
6) the prices you know them well, they have not changed. we are probably on a 50% solidworks. maintenance about 25% eye and cross
7) I would say yes... there are examples and certainly invoke to create plugins. in these years they have created new ones and on the bees there are always novelties. have also introduced the possibility to record scripts: using tools I created a "macro" that you can change later. very simple as introduction to programming, and at the reach of all the slender.

 

[Matteo]

Thanks gorea, to say the real interest in sc has never decreased, but as all consulting studies I have to follow the demands of customers for cad tools (although they are not always rational...).

I have experienced sold_edge st and believe that spaceclaim (2011) is still ahead of modeling and flexibility. Now I wait to try creo direct 4.0 (I have the license of creo parametric 4.0 and I will ask to make a test), but spaceclaim remains the reference.

prices: they are reasonable, but you feel a lot the lack of "style" (basic) for who, like me, would use spaceclaim only to work step and iges coming from customers.

good news for macro/bee speech!

 

[Andrea - Overcam]

the lack of "style" (basic)

Yes, it is. there would have been an even stronger exponential spread. . .

 

[enri]

I remember that the first version cost less than a thousand euros, a new positioning then for the type of sw, then expanding the features and the target have more than tripled the cost (if not erro, correct me) leaving empty that space, very suitable for many designers.
I had tried it because by switching files to flight with rhino, with correction of the model in real time, it expanded its capabilities towards direct modeling, a real manna.
by now it is too late, fusion 360, which among other things is free, has wiped out the possibility to recover that band of users. I have to say that they were unprevious. Of course if the basic version had been present for some time, maybe autodesk would have created big problems the same, but at least they would already have a base of users to maintain.
Maybe he doesn't care about it, and they're aiming at the real mcad band, at an aggressive cost for that level.

 

[marman]

I remember that the first version cost less than a thousand euros, a new positioning then for the type of sw, then expanding the features and the target have more than tripled the cost (if not erro, correct me) leaving empty that space, very suitable for many designers.
Maybe he doesn't care about it, and they're aiming at the real mcad band, at an aggressive cost for that level.

fresh news of yesterday the cost of spaceclaim,to the current state of the things, for the package "base" costs 5000/5500 €.... then there is the version "plus" from 8000.....
yesterday spoke with a retailer for the spaceclaim-sprutcam coupling.
So the price has increased by about five times, but they say it's an excellent cad system both 2d and 3d.semplice, intuitive, effective and effective. . . !

 

[Utente cancellato 70856]

fresh news of yesterday the cost of spaceclaim,to the current state of the things, for the package "base" costs 5000/5500 €.... then there is the version "plus" from 8000.....
yesterday spoke with a retailer for the spaceclaim-sprutcam coupling.
So the price has increased by about five times, but they say it's an excellent cad system both 2d and 3d.semplice, intuitive, effective and effective. . . !

Mah, I've been approaching zw3d lately and I've been amazed,batte spaceclaim on all fronts, don't beat me, and if you're looking for a paired cadcam do us a little thought

 

[marman]

I know that sprutcam is one of the few cams to handle robots and it's just my need... I took a look at zw3d and it doesn't seem to support the robots in the cam system...... and not even 5axes....if I don't err....I looked fast.... then as far as spaceclaim is concerned it's great so I'll try it for sure and then I'
Thank you.

 

[Utente cancellato 70856]

I don't like spaceclaim the fact that it doesn't have any strings for sketches, for example if you have a loft between two or more sketches you can't move a sketch and you change the loft, but you have to do it again, if you are in contact with a dealer ask him how and if you solve it's something with sc

 

[vmirko]

to see from the various videos seems more "spicious" compared to solidworks but it seems equally easy to combine disasters since it is enough to go over a part and with a clik and move the muose to change it.
At least that sounds like video.

 

[marman]

I don't like spaceclaim the fact that it doesn't have any strings for sketches, for example if you have a loft between two or more sketches you can't move a sketch and you change the loft, but you have to do it again, if you are in contact with a dealer ask him how and if you solve it's something with sc

I'm sure I'm gonna ask this thing.... let's see the answer a little bit....however I'm gonna make a demo so much to try it and then I can give a serious and truthful judgement....and then I always accept doubts, ask them all the same... .
Thank you.

 

[Utente cancellato 70856]

I'm sure I'm gonna ask this thing.... let's see the answer a little bit....however I'm gonna make a demo so much to try it and then I can give a serious and truthful judgement....and then I always accept doubts, ask them all the same... .
Thank you.

Thank you.
Let him see the images below and ask him how you can do to keep the loft between the two sketches drawn on the opposite faces that created the cross connecting the two parallel solids, placing one, the one on the left in my case, I was wrong to say the one on the right
I used spaceclaim 2015

 

[marman]

Thank you.
Let him see the images below and ask him how you can do to keep the loft between the two sketches drawn on the opposite faces that created the cross connecting the two parallel solids, placing one, the one on the left in my case, I was wrong to say the one on the right
I used spaceclaim 2015

...but if you used the command "transport" and not "move" the result remains equal...?unless before moving or dragging you should not create a single solid and then you do it....! It's so an idea looking at the pictures

 

[vmirko]

is there some sort of "unisci" so as to bind the two parts and make sure that in case you move one part the other you follow it?

 

[marman]

is there some sort of "unisci" so as to bind the two parts and make sure that in case you move one part the other you follow it?

I mean...

 

[Utente cancellato 70856]

is there some sort of "unisci" so as to bind the two parts and make sure that in case you move one part the other you follow it?

There is no
all the other 3d mechanics are faster, put the sketch and you get it all
with spaceclaim the only possibility is cups and moves delete the original and then move the edges of the loft to the face of the copy, to the face of the speed

 

[Utente cancellato 70856]

other loft or as it calls it spaceclaim blend, as it does proe
but how do I change the diameter of the circle in the center?
the sketch no longer exists and the edge also,it is all a surface

 

[Omarf494]

fresh news of yesterday the cost of spaceclaim,to the current state of the things, for the package "base" costs 5000/5500 €.... then there is the version "plus" from 8000.....
yesterday spoke with a retailer for the spaceclaim-sprutcam coupling.
So the price has increased by about five times, but they say it's an excellent cad system both 2d and 3d.semplice, intuitive, effective and effective. . . !

Hello, Marman, are you sure of the price you wrote for the license??? I think it's a little altinum. from February ansys has launched a new suite of products where they have inserted spaceclaim, is called discovery and the version with the real time simulation of spaceclaim for structure, air, vibration, temperature and fluids is called live discovery has the cost from you indicated... It's a world news tip to go see her.

 

[Utente cancellato 70856]

Thank you.
Let him see the images below and ask him how you can do to keep the loft between the two sketches drawn on the opposite faces that created the cross connecting the two parallel solids, placing one, the one on the left in my case, I was wrong to say the one on the right
I used spaceclaim 2015

There is no
all the other 3d mechanics are faster, put the sketch and you get it all
with spaceclaim the only possibility is cups and moves delete the original and then move the edges of the loft to the face of the copy, to the face of the speed

I make amend 1https://www.cad3d.it/forum1/threads...a-spaceclaim-che-solidworks.52907/post-421614

 

[Utente cancellato 70856]

other loft or as it calls it spaceclaim blend, as it does proe
but how do I change the diameter of the circle in the center?
the sketch no longer exists and the edge also,it is all a surface

I make amends 2https://www.cad3d.it/forum1/threads...a-spaceclaim-che-solidworks.52907/post-421829