structural pillars and overlapping walls

[lattu]

hi to everyone, I just started a revit course but I can't solve a problem
I need to shape a wall sovrapposto con drowned pillarswhether he does the wall before or before the pillars I always have the same error or in any view (except in the structural plant) disappear the pillars and I do not find the way to see them (not even enabling all categories in management views)
Is it a known problem or I miss something?
is strange because in view 3d are invisible but selectable, as can be seen from the annex

 

[lattu]

would it be a mistake to avoid using the overlapping wall by replacing it with two types of different walls? maybe inserting an intermediate level that matches the point where the walls differ or using offsets?

 

[lattu]

I partially solved by removing from the wall a foundation submuro (I had created it using 3 types), however leaving the type of wall overlapping using 2 external buffers.
evidently the foundation combined with a buffering and drowned structural pillars causes error.
I recreated it as a new structural wall, but now I can't view it separately from the buffer walls, which casino....

 

[Tristan]

hello lattu, so you struggle to understand the problem. can you share the file?

would it be a mistake to avoid using the overlapping wall by replacing it with two types of different walls? maybe inserting an intermediate level that matches the point where the walls differ or using offsets?

No, it's not a mistake. It's less practical, but it depends on what you want to get. instead of the levels you can also use reference plans

 

[lattu]

more or less I'm coming, between lessons and tutorials.. .
However to set everything is crazy, and I have not yet understood whether the game is worth the candle.
I am now finishing a portion of the building and threw myself into the parameterization of the doors: cry:.
If I leave, I will place something

 

[lattu]

if loading (or sending via email) a revit project, are also incorporated profiles and families or do you have to do a stuff like autocad e-transmit?

 

[Tristan]

It's all inside the revit file (a bit like autocad blocks). that is why a row of revit with 4 walls on the cross could weigh also 30 or 40 mb

 

[lattu]

thanks tristan

I resume the initial question by attaching the file in the embryonic phase now abandoned, I would like to understand if I made some mistakes or if it is a software fault

 

[Tristan]

it is never (almost) software fault. in this case the fault is of your inexperience on revit. you have created structural pillars drowned in external perimeter walls also structural. revit is "instructed" to combine some objects with equal discipline so your pillars were there but they did not see why they were fused with the outer walls that you had hidden. I converted the exterior walls into architectural, and now how you can see the problem is gone.

 

[lattu]

already, it was the first evidence after a few notions.
I haven't faced the structural part yet, and I haven't understood exactly what you did.
I have noticed that it is only the 40 cm wall to give problems but I can't locate the solution.Did you act on the stratigraphy, on the typological parameters, of instance or what else?

 

[Tristan]

when you create a wall you have two possibilities (we leave the one from the surface): architectural wall and structural wall. I just used the first.
erases the exterior walls that you have created and recreate using the architectural wall

 

[lattu]

I thought you could convert.
Okay.
I deepen the topic

 

[Tristan]

Yes, you can convert very easily, but then you should turn all the pillars by hand. in my opinion do first remake the 4 walls in this case