sw2010 declassified in 2008?? ? ?

[Paolo118]

Hello, everyone.

in my office we are 2 designers and we use sw2008. now a third person will arrive and we have pointed out that if he is purchased sw2010, we will have problems working.

the retailer sw said he sells us a "declassed" sw2010 in sw2008. says that you can do this by declassifying the sw2010 until sw2006.

but is it really possible or will it sell us a sw2008 that found on the shelves in the cellar? ? ?

Thank you!

 

[Calimero]

Hello, everyone.

in my office we are 2 designers and we use sw2008. now a third person will arrive and we have pointed out that if he is purchased sw2010, we will have problems working.

the retailer sw said he sells us a "declassed" sw2010 in sw2008. says that you can do this by declassifying the sw2010 until sw2006.

but is it really possible or will it sell us a sw2008 that found on the shelves in the cellar? ? ?

Thank you!

I assume that's very possible what he told you, it works so well for pro/e and ptc, I speak for my experience.

If you buy a license today of wf5 (last) you can safely use the previous ones until wf2, it's only license question, you could use wf2-3-4-5 simultaneously, I think it's worth the same speech for swx.:wink:

 

[michele81]

I assume that's very possible what he told you, it works so well for pro/e and ptc, I speak for my experience.

If you buy a license today of wf5 (last) you can safely use the previous ones until wf2, it's only license question, you could use wf2-3-4-5 simultaneously, I think it's worth the same speech for swx.:wink:

It's more like a rescue problem than licensing. 2010 "normal" cannot save in previous formats, what they should do and add this change to your version. If this is really possible let us know, because at what point we all slaughter our sw sellers who have repeatedly told us no to this possibility. . .

 

[marcof]

It's more like a rescue problem than licensing. 2010 "normal" cannot save in previous formats, what they should do and add this change to your version.

still with 'this story of rescues in previous versions?non there are special versions that save in previous truth! you can not do point!

 

[Calimero]

but the rescues do not see what they do, of course this is not possible.
currently it is possible in swx to install both 2008-2009 and 2010, using it clearly only once, or can not?
I seem to understand that if the var said so.

 

[Paolo118]

It's confusing. I and the other designer have sw2008 and we will not change it in the sw2010!.

the newcomer will have sw2010.

we have mentioned to the seller that, as everyone knows, if the new will have sw2010, his files will not be open to us.

the seller has placed: during installation we can do a downgrade of sw2010 to sw2008.

therefore, according to him, with this downgrade we will all have sw2008 and we will save all in sw2008 format.

my question is: can you really, during installation, do downgrade from sw2010 to sw2008?

 

[cacciatorino]

my question is: can you really, during installation, do downgrade from sw2010 to sw2008?

Maybe if you install from the web.

However when I bought swx the seller told me that having the maintenance I could install indifferently 2009 or 2010, having the dvds of both. the 2010 license would have made 2009 work without any problem.
If, on the other hand, the maintenance didn't want to buy it, I would have had to put that distributed at the time, that is, 2010. I assume that the speech also applies to 2008.

 

[Paolo118]

but we do not need the 2010 DVD! we will never use it since we will have 2008.

If, as you say, it still takes dvd 2008, then we are right:

You can't do any downgrades, but you will sell us an old 2008 DVD licensed.

 

[cacciatorino]

but we do not need the 2010 DVD! we will never use it since we will have 2008.

If, as you say, it still takes dvd 2008, then we are right:

You can't do any downgrades, but you will sell us an old 2008 DVD licensed.

Maybe I didn't explain well, but as I understood, your partner can use his 2010 license and your 2008 DVD, and you can install swx 2008 and the 2010 license will allow him to start it.

 

[Paolo118]

ah, here, use my dvd 2008 by entering your 2010 license. .

but therefore, being a real 2008, would suffice a pc with potential similar to those of the pcs we use now...

I say that because the sw seller sent some specifications for the pc to buy and it seems it needs a much more expensive and expensive pc than we already use. . .

but if in the end it still installs 2008 with my dvd 2008, 'sto pc would be a bit exaggerated, I think...

 

[Calimero]

Maybe I didn't explain well, but as I understood, your partner can use his 2010 license and your 2008 DVD, and you can install swx 2008 and the 2010 license will allow him to start it.

That's right, I think that's right, as long as you install the 2010 license manager, otherwise it's not working.

 

[cacciatorino]

but if in the end it still installs 2008 with my dvd 2008, 'sto pc would be a bit exaggerated, I think...

if you can find xp.... :biggrin: my computer dealer has now been dry with xp licenses, and the next pc will have to turn with win7...

but if the pc you have to buy it better I buy it well, for a few hundred more euros, you will exploit it much longer, so within short swx 2008 you will have to dismiss it obsolescence cause of xp.

 

[Paolo118]

for the truth we talk about qusi 2000 euros more...

Then the sw2008 will not release it before the natural death of the pcs, we would have no reason to do so.. At least 2-3 years. .

for then we will buy all 3 the latest sw version (2012-13) and 3 pcs suitable for that....

now take a performance pc for 2010 since we will never use the sw 2010 it seems to throw away money for a pc that comunqe, in a couple of years, when all we will change version of sw, will be obsolete and to change him as our...

 

[marcof]

if you can find xp.... :biggrin: my computer dealer has now been dry with xp licenses, and the next pc will have to turn with win7...

I didn't have time to get into it, but try to look here:http://www.usedsoft.com/landingpage/it/on the English page there are many more details

this and the European Directive http://eur-lex.europa.eu/lexuriserv/lexuriserv.do?uri=oj:l:2001:167:0010:0019:it:pdfto which they refer when they write that:"Every well purchased can be sold at any time by its legitimate owner.
the first sale in the community of the original of a work or of its copies by the owner of the right or with his consent exhausts the content of the right to control the resale of this object in the community. "This is the shophttp://www.usedsoft.shopfactory.com/contents/de/d2.htmlI repeat that I have no detail, but the opportunity seems very interesting and could be a first step towards a limitation of too many software house :wink:

 

[michele81]

my pc was taken to turn with sw 2008 and now it turns great with 2010.
I don't think the hardware request changed much.
However if you have double licenses, then each license can be installed both on pc and portable for homework ("non-contemporary") you could arrange so...
It's about the declassificationp. It seems like a supidate.. .
when you buy a license you automatically acquire the ability to use antecedent verifications. therefore your colleague will actually use a 2008 and not a 2010, otherwise it would not be compatible with your work.

 

[stefanobruno]

I didn't have time to get into it, but try to look here:http://www.usedsoft.com/landingpage/it/on the English page there are many more details

They sell xp oem, you can't buy it and mount it on a virgin pc.
for the obsolescence of xp, microsoft seems that it will ensure maintenance until 2020, not bad for a s.o. who had to be dead already.

Bye.

 

[cacciatorino]

They sell xp oem, you can't buy it and mount it on a virgin pc.
for the obsolescence of xp, microsoft seems that it will ensure maintenance until 2020, not bad for a s.o. who had to be dead already.

Bye.

the problem will be the "required" applications that we use. already 'the next version of solid edge had been planned as installable only on seven or view, then to vanity of people was reintroduced xp support, but they already said that the next release will not be able to use on xp.

 

[Oldwarper]

if you can find xp.... :biggrin: my computer dealer has now been dry with xp licenses, and the next pc will have to turn with win7...

but if the pc you have to buy it better I buy it well, for a few hundred more euros, you will exploit it much longer, so within short swx 2008 you will have to dismiss it obsolescence cause of xp.

looking from machine tool dealers and numerical controls, you will also find windows 3.11 and ms-dos 6.2, if it is for that. As long as they sell them to you.

too many cncs and mu have industrial hardware that mitigates the beauty and unnecessary accumulations of new versions useful for feisbuccari and movie lovers (have you ever seen a mac interfaced to a cnc? I don't...) and you can't tell a mute owner to have to change cn (and we talk about a minimum of 10k euro only for the cpu, not 500... and then you put us technical and steady machine) just because "it came out seen with the bubbolose carinecarine icons and the hellokitty background". ..

the "support" of ms for its versions has always had an aura of ridicule (what is their "support??" never heard of anyone who solved something thanks to their help...:mad). The sp? source of additional bugs. I have sp0 machines much more efficient and stable than sp2

As far as legality is concerned, I think that if you take a nice view/seven license and then you slap on xp, no gdf agent (the only ones, remember it, allowed to check the fiscal regularity of the products used, let alone bsa weavers who are dealing from public officers threatening chissaccosa) you will feel 'ework, yes, has the new license but the old product' or buy the license for 2011 but you can also use a 2006 (the var will tell you how the codes work), plus the possibility to install the next ones. you can also install on the same machine the old and new versions, maybe so to use for the work the old one and in the meantime knead with the new one (it's also recommended if there are "critical" projects and you don't trust the release just out), although for cleaning the pc they always recommend to uninstall and reinstall. ah, you can also simultaneously use a new and an old one in two competing sessions on the same pc, use the same license. Also three, but then I think the pc throws out the language...:36_3_4:

 

[Drag]

straight from oldwarper in [Recuperato] solidworks partner

also watch assistance and upgrades: with sw you can skip a year of update (a version or even more) and the year after having the new version paying the upgrade without penalty (as if I had the previous)

Sorry but this still applies to sw.
Thank you.

 

[Oldwarper]

straight from oldwarper in [Recuperato] solidworks partner

Sorry but this still applies to sw.
Thank you.

Unfortunately not.
have changed the policies of abstainance and have also introduced them a sort of penalty in case of "salt" of a version. Now, I don't know after how many years, but after a while, you better get an ex-novo license. in this bargaining with the var is still important.