tariff for mechanical designer

[pedrodan]

Hello.

I am a mechanical expert and I wanted to know from you what is the indicative hourly rate for the work of mechanical designer with cad.

I know that the design is usually distinguished from the simple table setting and that the latter is cheaper.

Thank you.

 

[SER.CAD]

the minimum, minimum to ask if you have match iva is 22 euro/hour, for the tables, 28,30 for the modeling, more 'iva!

 

[pedrodan]

the minimum, minimum to ask if you have match iva is 22 euro/hour, for the tables, 28,30 for the modeling, more 'iva!

I will have to ask for a fee for occasional benefits, so without p.i.
area brands border with abruzzo.

 

[Carlotta75]

I wanted to know if in these figures is also considered the amortization of the cad?
I bought one of the 3d software and I have to tell you that it is not always simple to shock its expense, maybe they are a bit too expensive?
Sorry, but this argument, maybe, could save me. ...
Hello! !

 

[cacciatorino]

I wanted to know if in these figures is also considered the amortization of the cad?
I bought one of the 3d software and I have to tell you that it is not always simple to shock its expense, maybe they are a bit too expensive?
Sorry, but this argument, maybe, could save me. ...
Hello! !

depends on how many hours you use it: if you consider 6500 euros of purchase, more ' 1500 euros year of assistance, in three years you have spent 11.000 euros, that for a year ago 3500 euros big way, than to 25 euros/h do 140 hours. I'd say you're in there comfortably if the cad to be shocked is one, if they become two or three, it could get a little complicated.

Consider that there are people who buy work centers from 500,000 euros, or 300,000 grantourism buses, we are super lucky to have such cheap work tools.... .

 

[MBT]

I wanted to know if in these figures is also considered the amortization of the cad?
I bought one of the 3d software and I have to tell you that it is not always simple to shock its expense, maybe they are a bit too expensive?
Sorry, but this argument, maybe, could save me. ...
Hello! !

If after two years of free profession I returned dependent... There's a reason!
More than one!

 

[haga78]

Touch a sore key these days.
and sincerely I do not understand the current dynamics: people who tear their hair because without work, then ask them for a quote and give you a price list, try to treat (considering the current times) and bang the door in the face
Here we talk about 22, 28, 30 euros now, I feel a little bit low figures. of professionals working under 40 I do not know about it, some even ask 60

 

[cacciatorino]

Here we talk about 22, 28, 30 euros now, I feel a little bit low figures. of professionals working under 40 I do not know about it, some even ask 60

but where do you live in Italy? rates vary from region to region.

 

[numero1]

Sixty euros?
a dream....... .

 

[GiGa]

Here we talk about 22, 28, 30 euros now, I feel a little bit low figures. of professionals working under 40 I do not know about it, some even ask 60

Really... Where do you live? I'm moving in now. . .
sure not to mention "pure" design activities (structural/dimensional calculations, etc)? then the figure could also be low... I've never heard of a designer at 60. 40 of a minimum?
here in roma (for project development and final drawings, therefore without structural calculations) if it is located at 25 I believe both fat and cola, except for very specialized niche sectors and/or very large structures (for example, the 50-store mega studio I imagine ask definitely more than 25, if nothing else because they can do jobs that one/two people can not face). . .
and finding 25 is not easy... for the 2d.

doing a job (mixture) for an architect friend, when a few years ago I asked him about 16/17 €/h (I saw it wasn't my industry and it was a friend I made a big discount, even on the hours billed) he looked at me not really well... they used to travel on 12... I repeat, construction industry 5/6 years ago... However, given the competition in the sector, I do not think it went much more on...

 

[Fulvio Romano]

of professionals working under 40 I do not know about it, some even ask 60

I know professionals who ask even more... but they are doctors.. .

 

[stefanobruno]

But they're doctors. .

... and do not make invoice ... and 10 min = 60 euri ...

 

[haga78]

Really... Where do you live? I'm moving in now. . .
sure not to mention "pure" design activities (structural/dimensional calculations, etc)? then the figure could also be low... I've never heard of a designer at 60. 40 of a minimum?
here in roma (for project development and final drawings, therefore without structural calculations) if it is located at 25 I believe both fat and cola, except for very specialized niche sectors and/or very large structures (for example, the 50-store mega studio I imagine ask definitely more than 25, if nothing else because they can do jobs that one/two people can not face). . .
and finding 25 is not easy... for the 2d.

doing a job (mixture) for an architect friend, when a few years ago I asked him about 16/17 €/h (I saw it wasn't my industry and it was a friend I made a big discount, even on the hours billed) he looked at me not really well... they used to travel on 12... I repeat, construction industry 5/6 years ago... However, given the competition in the sector, I do not think it went much more on...

area center Italy, plc programmer, paid regularly (I have seen invoices) 40 euros now, design (relaz calculation) and drawing pressure vessels, well beyond that digits (dividing the total for hours presumably working).

 

[haga78]

I know professionals who ask even more... but they are doctors.. .

me and more than one:redface:

 

[promecvergani]

response to hunter
better stay at home and sleep then
I don't even pay for the light of the gas, etc., and the taxes pay for it, and the pension gives it to you as a social worker? What do you use?

 

[ARberto]

Unfortunately, given the times it is necessary to take what comes without so many patemi. right today I took a job at 21,00 euro/h. At least I've secured work until December.
I am a free professional enrolled the college of industrial experts. It is therefore up to the qualification that: there is also a certain devaluation of the profession. the problem that these things only happen in Italy of course.

 

[gil]

I've made some accounts, I'm not tedious about how I got to the following figures.
assuming an income of 16'000 euro year, or just decent (it is equivalent to the salary of an employee who takes 1'200 euro per month)

a professional should get paid about 50 euros/hour.

it is possible to reduce this figure in the case of large orders that saturate the work capacities for several days. for example for a work of 160 hours per month our professional could descend up to 35 euros / now. but if you do not reach full employment, rates around 40 euros / hour, already involve a strong reduction of income already not exciting.

if our free professional works for a single client who fills him the month. if you work at the customer's office with customer tools. (in practice the so-called fake games iva, which are in fact employees, and that go out of fashion in today's technical studies). then the tariff may contract up to about 18-20 euros/hour.
Of course I have not taken into account, of a surcharge, due to the precariousness that the condition entails.

Finally I calculated for a free professional who works in the field cad / graphics the lowest price possible. in order to keep the price low, I assumed extreme parameters, sometimes absurd.
to these conditions, which I judge hardly sustainable, the hourly rate can reach approximately 25 euros/hour.

I asked an acquaintance who's an agent for a software firm. confirmed that in estimates the working hours of a programmer cost the final customer 50 euros/hour with very limited discount margins. Unfortunately it is also true that on some Italian sites of graphics, I have seen very beautiful works, made by users of South East Asia or East Europe, who have rates 1/3 of the basic tariff for an Italian professional.

 

[re_solidworks]

I've made some accounts, I'm not tedious about how I got to the following figures.
assuming an income of 16'000 euro year, or just decent (it is equivalent to the salary of an employee who takes 1'200 euro per month)

a professional should get paid about 50 euros/hour.

it is possible to reduce this figure in the case of large orders that saturate the work capacities for several days. for example for a work of 160 hours per month our professional could descend up to 35 euros / now. but if you do not reach full employment, rates around 40 euros / hour, already involve a strong reduction of income already not exciting.

if our free professional works for a single client who fills him the month. if you work at the customer's office with customer tools. (in practice the so-called fake games iva, which are in fact employees, and that go out of fashion in today's technical studies). then the tariff may contract up to about 18-20 euros/hour.
Of course I have not taken into account, of a surcharge, due to the precariousness that the condition entails.

Finally I calculated for a free professional who works in the field cad / graphics the lowest price possible. in order to keep the price low, I assumed extreme parameters, sometimes absurd.
to these conditions, which I judge hardly sustainable, the hourly rate can reach approximately 25 euros/hour.

I asked an acquaintance who's an agent for a software firm. confirmed that in estimates the working hours of a programmer cost the final customer 50 euros/hour with very limited discount margins. Unfortunately it is also true that on some Italian sites of graphics, I have seen very beautiful works, made by users of South East Asia or East Europe, who have rates 1/3 of the basic tariff for an Italian professional.

Your count seems very pessimistic. not that of these times there is to be optimistic, eh, but with 50 €/h I think you can make a great income, not 1200 €/month.
the biggest problem is getting paid by everyone, because at the end of the year you always find the burden of someone who has not honored his debts and this weight is becoming excessive for many studies. I believe that 35 €/hour is the optimal figure for working discreetly, but if you have employees with a lot of experience (and with proper salary) they are not enough. to allow you this type of figure there are 2 alternatives: or close to the "senior" an apprentice or up to 40 €/hour.
40 € is a figure that few are willing to pay, for having them you must really be above the average of colleagues under all points of view.

 

[gil]

I don't do the free professional, but here's where my estimate of 50 euros / now about.

hypothesize that the person works 160 hours per month ( 8 hours x 5 days week x 4 weeks)
ipotizzo that can only invoice 100, the remaining 60 employed for job search, training, various practices are not invoiced. therefore gross turnover is 5'000 euro month.

from here you have to remove:
1'000 euro rent office, bills, and taxes
500 euro displacement (benzine + half amortization cost)
150 euro advertising and personal promotion
150 Euro training (courses, manuals etc.)
400 euro computer depreciation + software + various tools
300 euro problems, errors, non-refundable credits
total expenditure 2500 euro

net turnover = 5000-2500 = 2500 euro
now you have to pay contributions and income taxes that take away 40% approximately.
net income 2500 x 0.6 = 1500 euro.

However, the remaining 45 days do not produce income.
1'500 x 10,5 = 15'750 euro

an employee who perceives 1'200 euros per month for 13 monthly (the thirteenth is almost a monthly, mortgage does not have the 14th as many state), and the tfr, has an income of:
1'200 x 13,8 = 16'560 euro / year.

mine is a spannometric estimate, of a professional who works, 100% in order, without big patemi. as I said before you can reduce the rate, without affecting income, but only in a few cases.

 

[ninfh]

personally I have never worked as an external designer at hours, about twenty euros per hour is the cost of an employee hired...... it seems a ridiculously low figure; If the number is really that next time I have to forget to sleep for a few weeks, I can pay someone...
it will be because I started as a craftsman but I have always paid a tot to work, except for on-site interventions for assistance/revision/extraordinary maintenance etc. etc.

All the time I have to make new plans, I pay a tot at work never now, I don't trust.