tolerances decelerator oem

[deep70]

Hello everyone,
I am carrying out a table of a frame structure, I find myself in the need to quote with relative tolerances and workings this tree or pernp dir si want, of really reduced dimension.
I would like to advise on what tolerances to apply and what degree of processing (always if necessary).
a greeting to all and thanks for any answers.

 

[meccanicamg]

applied loads, bearings or bronzes? that diameter 3.2 breaks only to see.
If you smoke what goes on the tree and what it has to resist and what you mount it, we can give you some straight.

 

[meccanicamg]

if it is a pin is a thing, if it is a decelerator will have its good catalog with measures and tolerances.
It doesn't seem clear to me your question.
Does it have no mounting thread? ♪

 

[deep70]

In fact, all questions more than logical, the problem is that I have no idea of its function, I am making a table for a customer, I can post the assembled seeds
to understand where it's going. . .

 

[meccanicamg]

We're good months. However the external body of the decelerator must be threaded. it sticks in a quarry with an extra width 1 mm and roughness ra3.2 or ra6.3.
There are no particular things since it is in the quarry and it is put so without apparent sense. I think there's no sleds where they beat cartoons or the like, because I'm not going to use the decelerator for big things.

 

[deep70]

I have a doubt... But that diameter 3.2 is the stem?
I don't know how a decelerator is doing... Will it be like a lot of gas spring or cylinder with classical spring or similar? The model they've been through is imported... so it is like seeing a piece of marble at all effects.. .
If so I think it is also unnecessary to quote it.. other than various processing or tolerances... .

 

[meccanicamg]

Of course 3,2 is the stem. in front there is the impact hump and behind the body.
I agree that there is no pippa makes quotation... see catalog

 

[deep70]

How do I say... They send me rebuses. At first glance I thought it was a little tree... Vabeh... as you said before.. We're really good. Thanks for answering me mechanicalmg you've been very helpful.
next...

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

bhé, but you're the one who needs to talk to the customer and explain the operation of the machine and unravel any doubt. you can't ask on the forum what might be a particular. . It is obvious that you will have only guesses that can be right as wrong, deduced by a couple of immages amongst others.
How do I tell you to take a job without talking to the client? then if in course of work rise perplexity the phone rises and it is called 'senti I was quotating this piece, but in the assieme it is not clear its use, explain it to me? '

 

[deep70]

You're perfectly right. Frankly, as I said before, the only uncertainty was related to that particular, and I should say that if the client didn't tell me before it means that he shouldn't be considered, that's all.

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

Call him tomorrow and let you explain the operation. it is certainly better than to quote it, or not to quote it, following assumptions.
that as much as mechanicalmg gives excellent advice and solutions not knowing the machine can only give suggestions on how much you get from your information.

 

[deep70]

Call him tomorrow and let you explain the operation. it is certainly better than to quote it, or not to quote it, following assumptions.
that as much as mechanicalmg gives excellent advice and solutions not knowing the machine can only give suggestions on how much you get from your information.

In fact.. even if it is clear now.
You know what it's like when you call one more time, it always seems that everything is due... and yet you understand that to them you break the so-called... even if then at the end are things that omit or that pass you by half. .

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

you don't know what the operation is, you don't even know whether it's business or not, whether it's listed or not, if that 3,2 diametric is the stem and so it's something that moves... It seems to me that clearly there is very little to say nothing.

when you call once more it always seems that everything is due

questa phrase non ha molto sense

and yet you understand that to them you break the so-called... even if then at the end are things that omit or that pass you by half. .

it happens to everyone to forget to specify something, to indicate to good something else, because you are in a hurry, because the project is complex and you get lost inside, because some things seem obvious, etc.
As it happens to forget to ask for information that was then set aside for a greater problem, a clarification that didn't seem so important but then it blocks you all the working process, and so on.
but if you paranoid yourself because it seems to bother you for a fundamental question to do a good job something does not come back.

but putting it more ground, draw that piece thinking it is a shock absorber (hypothetically), send it to the customer who calls you after ten minutes and asks you euphemistically how did you quote that pin? Why did you put a ø12h7 when it's a m12; tell him that, not knowing what it was for, you asked advice on the cad3d forum, you discussed it and concluded that it was a piston?

 

[cacciatorino]

You're perfectly right. Frankly, as I said before, the only uncertainty was related to that particular, and I should say that if the client didn't tell me before it means that he shouldn't be considered, that's all.

an experienced designer immediately understands that that is a commercial component, very important for the operation of the machine and the contractor didn't tell you because he thought you would immediately understand what it is. Probably from the model tree you can pull out some extra information. looks a lot like slice ysrw size 8, but it could also be smc material or more. Could you post a screen capture where you see the model name in the structure list of the assembly?

 

[deep70]

an experienced designer immediately understands that that is a commercial component, very important for the operation of the machine and the contractor didn't tell you because he thought you would immediately understand what it is. Probably from the model tree you can pull out some extra information. looks a lot like slice ysrw size 8, but it could also be smc material or more. Could you post a screen capture where you see the model name in the structure list of the assembly?

Come on. the piece is an imported.. as usual for the catalog stuff.. therefore not immediately understandable to the first blow also because the aid is only one part of the overall.
Usually the catalog stuff the client never inserts it in the workbook at least that is not specified.
in the tree figure with code like all other components that I presume to be a code placed by the company that is in charge of the whole project.

Last but not least, here's the table... the project is not mine so you don't give me anything to what they serve or why certain details are in that position rather than in another!! I'll make the table as fast as I can and then I'll move on.

ps: an experienced designer is first experienced for his sector. .

 

[cacciatorino]

Last but not least, here's the table... the project is not mine so you don't give me anything to what they serve or why certain details are in that position rather than in another!! I'll make the table as fast as I can and then I'll move on.

I'm sorry the question, but how do you put on the table a part (tolerances, materials, wrinkles) if you don't know the function and you don't care?

 

[deep70]

I'm sorry the question, but how do you put on the table a part (tolerances, materials, wrinkles) if you don't know the function and you don't care?

what do materials do? the materials decides who made the project.. and in any case all processing and tolerances, if you know that the project will be tabled by others, were notified in the mathematical model.
You won't tell me that you always ask the client for history and miracles of whatever he passes you... and however an experienced designer should usually understand and see immediately if it is processed dishes and consequently what kind of roughness and geometric tolerance to put looking at the axieme.. .

 

[cacciatorino]

what do materials do? the materials decides who made the project.. and in any case all processing and tolerances, if you know that the project will be tabled by others, were notified in the mathematical model.
You won't tell me that you always ask the client for history and miracles of whatever he passes you... and however an experienced designer should usually understand and see immediately if it is processed dishes and consequently what kind of roughness and geometric tolerance to put looking at the axieme.. .

I've read enough already, I wish you a good continuation.

 

[deep70]

I've read enough already, I wish you a good continuation.

I don't want to polemize caciattorino... besides not bringing to anything I don't want it or time.. good continuation to you too..

 

[MBT]

what do materials do? the materials decides who made the project.. and in any case all processing and tolerances, if you know that the project will be tabled by others, were notified in the mathematical model.
You won't tell me that you always ask the client for history and miracles of whatever he passes you... and however an experienced designer should usually understand and see immediately if it is processed dishes and consequently what kind of roughness and geometric tolerance to put looking at the axieme.. .

If you say so...